adows,mzl,noble,otis,pauly,pjaol,pramirez,radup
> modify_unix_group.pl incubator
> -add=recordond,rjung,rmuir,robweir,rolandw,roughley,rr,sagara,scottbw,shalin
> modify_unix_group.pl incubator
> -add=simoneg,simonw,siren,smcclees,stack,stevel,tdunning,theory,thilina,tonit
> modif
/Docs (CBDOCS)
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> Initial Committers
> --
>
> * Brian LeRoux (b at brian.io)
> * Dr. David Charles Johnson (dave.c.johnson at gmail.com)
> * Fil Maj (maj.fil at gmail.com)
> * Joe Bowser (bowserj at gm
[x] +1 to recommend UIMA's graduation
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e the board that there is a plan (or even a plan for
a plan)?
Thanks!
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[1] http://s.apache.org/HLj
[2] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/July2010#Socialsite
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09-11-05 HISE
2009-11-27 Clerezza
2010-01-10 Manifold Connector Framework (ManifoldCF)
2010-02-21 SIS
2010-03-01 Bean Validation
2010-05-09 Amber
2010-05-19 Deltacloud
2010-05-21 Zeta Components
2010-06-24 Nuvem
2010-07-14 Chukwa
2010-07-22 Lucy
2010-08-13 NPanday
2010-09-07 Isis
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2010-1
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increase latency/relevance, and gives the incubator more of a chance
to recover (and actually obtain a report in time) when a deadline is
missed.
> --- Noel
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to continuation/exit strategy". Reports for PPMCs that are older than
a year should be expected to contain this information. Repeated
failure to include such information and/or demonstrate forward
progress towards meeting these objectives should cause the Incubator
(not the
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
wrote:
> Hi...
>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>> > PLEASE NOTE!
>> >
>> > From the ASF Board:
>> >
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
>> wrote:
>> > Hi...
>> >
>> > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Sam Ruby
>
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>
> Looking at the current list of projects, we have many that exceed that
> number. Far exceed that number. In fact the median age is 416 days
> and the mean age is 536.
Thanks to Gavin installing the necessary prer
o a step further, and while
the PPMC reports should be made available for review, possibly via a
URL, the meat of the report that the board should be reviewing is the
actions taken by the Incubator PMC to resolve any problems that are
identified by podlings.
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to graduate (whether that votes passes or not doesn't matter, as long
as the right people are engaged) is in the good category.
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roperly.
>
> We should be reporting to the board about OUR work, not the work of
> the podlings. Podlings should only be brought in for a few specific
> examplesto mention. That's the first thing to correct.
+1
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On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin
wrote:
>
> soft time limits (sign off copyright within 3
> months or expect IPMC scrutiny) would probably be useful, I think.
+1
> Robert
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perience is where a champion continued championing after the podling was
> established.
>
> - Dennis
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> -Original Message-
> From: Marvin Humphrey [mailto:mar...@rectangular.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 14:34
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
on
that a podling produces AT THE VERY MINIMUM a credible plan that they
are executing on which will lead to graduation at some point.
In this month's incubator report, I'm seeing an increase in podling
reports that conta
ultimate direction for a project. We've even had
destructive forks where both the fork and the original community ended
up failing.
We can, and should, make a decision based on the specifics of the
community in question, and informed by our past experienc
f time passes.
Then those who were originally pushing the idea state that they
weren't allowed because some unnamed "they" wouldn't let them.
> Ralph
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On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>
> On Jan 7, 2012, at 8:05 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Ralph Goers
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jan 6, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>>>
>>>> The A
have yet to
(or never managed to) graduate:
https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/#podling
Here is an up-to-the-minute update on podlings by age (complete with a graph):
https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/podlings/by-age
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and make a recommendation based on that pattern. Be prepared to cite
specific examples where those recommendations would be applied.
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than "more
autonomy" if you want people to agree to it.
If the net result is that "aged podlings" can live comfortably in the
incubator indefinitely, then this is not a proposal that I can
support.
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of them are ASF members. If at least one
of these ASF members intends is willing to continue on the PMC, and
the lack of committers were the only issue, then I would be
comfortable with this podling graduating.
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like to see the Incubator bounce back the reports instead of
lamely forwarding them onto the board.
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Ant
Empire-DB
Flex
Giraph
Kafka
Kitty
Lucy
Mesos (borderline, but planning a release is good)
ODFToolkit
Oozie
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over again.
> Regards,
> Stuart
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P.S. I will state that we already have had a more meaningful
discussion on this topic than has been typical for the incubator. I
encourage others to participate in this discussion. Both people who
agree with me and people see things different
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Marcel Offermans
wrote:
> On Jan 11, 2012, at 23:49 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>
>> -1 for forwarding no the following reports from projects that are over
>> a year old and lacking crisp plan for graduatuation:
>>
>> Celix
>
> A plan
dable.
Note: I'm a mentor of JSPWiki. I, too, kicked off some discussions
there that are only now starting to produce results. Note that I
included JSPWiki in the list of projects who should be asked to report
again next month.
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e right direction?
Reject the reports, and ask them to resubmit next month. If the
pattern repeats, put them on a monthly schedule.
If you have good mentors, they will catch on quick.
If you find that you don't have any active mentors left, then that's
the problem that needs to be addre
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 9:13 AM, ant elder wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 12:33 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>>>
>>> We've repeatedly asked projects to focus on their graduation requirements.
>>> What
ew
reports as a member of the PMC, and do so here, and before such is
forwarded to the board. I hope that there are others that will join
me.
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>> > From: Mohammad Nour El-Din
>> > To: general@incubator.apache.org; antel...@apache.org
>> > Cc:
>> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 1:09 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Actively retiring projects
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:01 PM,
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>> +1
Excessive snippage violation.
> Voting to terminate a project through lack of success sends a very
> clear message. Being 'terminated' is a very clea
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:59 AM, ant elder wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
>> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>>>> +1
>>
>> Excessive
sted that they be terminated.
In fact, I would like to call on everybody to stop using the
drama-filled term "termination" and focus on ensuring that reports
submitted are timely and contain all of the relevant information.
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On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin
wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>
>
>> 20 Jul 2011:
>>
>> ensure that long running incubating projects actually have a plausible
>> plan to graduate
>
> Thanks - I see now
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 6:51 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin
wrote:
>
> Terminating projects with active communities is the area of active dispute
Stop the drama and misrepresentation.
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wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Sam Ruby w.
>
>
>
>> I would like to call on everybody to
>
>
>
>> focus on ensuring that reports
>> submitted are timely and contain all of the relevant
tion
> exit paths which lead outside Apache without a judgment of failure on
> anyone's part
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html#graduated
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html#dormant
http://incubator.apache.o
s where I provide feedback here before providing feedback that
will ultimately be published on the ASF web site as a part of the ASF
board meetings.
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with the necessary karma could help us.
Done.
> Here is a link to the announcement on the opennlp list:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-opennlp-dev/201112.mbox/%3c4eeb1bdd@gmail.com%3E
>
> Thanks,
> Jörn
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indicated that that is indeed the case), then that shouldn't be a
problem?
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der and Seam 3 codebases; thus a software
> grant is a bit of overkill, but saves committers having to disclaim
> each commit as clause 7 would do.
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> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Matt Benson wrote:
>> Adding deltaspike-dev back to the distribution:
>>
>> O
believe that while that podling has quite a few challenges, being
able to produce a full and complete report is not one of them. I also
sense a strong intent to graduate.
> How to care on what we have now is another question.
ntil it works?
Normally no, but in this case there was a hiccup. It should be resolved now.
> He used the https url to checkout and he can login to people.apache.org.
>
> Jörn
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> William Silvia
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/opennlp.html lists his name as
"William Silva". Which is correct?
> Isabel Drost
example@?
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recurring need.
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kes sense
> IMO, but the current chair should drive this process.
Is it a foregone conclusion that we can't reach the point where we
have only one candidate, and the vote itself is merely a confirmation?
> -Bertrand
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will need to cover how that is either going to change or how that
would be expected to work.
> Cheers,
> -g
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es sense to me. Podlings are an obvious granularity to try out this.
Over a period of years we dissolved Jakarta. We started by graduating
Ant and Tomcat to be TLPs. This was once a new concept. Over time,
less and less remained under the umbrella.
Selecting individual podlin
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:50 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>
>
>> What I care most about is
>> addressed by this proposal: that there be an identified person to
>> which feedback can be directed for each report.
>
*ought* to
operate, do we the name of a potential chair who is ready, willing,
and able to execute on such?
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> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:25, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
>> Wow... a post that was too long even for me :) We might want to break
>> this down into a co
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:19 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
> On 2/3/2012 11:11 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 5:26 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
>>> Below is *precisely* my view on the matter. Bill annoys me sometimes
>>> :-P, but I have to say that I'm in
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>> There is a place in the middle, which very much intrigues me. Instead
>> of replacing 1 IPMC with n PMCs, having n+1 PMCs, with the Incubator
>> playing a role much lik
ey need to be
signed, follow naming rules, and have a license audit.
Finally, this discussion should continue on the public jspwiki-dev list.
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On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The podling reports this month [1] seem pretty good in general.
>
> I spent some time unifying report formatting and fixing some minor
> issues (like Stanbol needing an intro paragraph). I also pinged
> NPanday and Zeta Components tha
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>> From: Sam Ruby
>>
>>I don't mean this to sound like a "yes, but", but you have identified
>>12 podlings that aren't new and aren't ready to graduate. Are there
>>active plans to address
troactive. Or that it be done
immediately. A plan would be fine: i.e., setting a date by which the
IPMC will have decided what information needs to be in such reports,
and a schedule by which the PPMCs need to start providing said
information.
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February20
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> By July we should then have a
> pretty accurate record of progress throughout the entire Incubator,
> including a clear list of podlings that are stuck and need help.
+1
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and one that is
readily reversible if necessary. What's not to like?
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F release - then that is
not likely to fly.
I don't know what statement Roy is referring to, so I won't challenge
it directly. Instead I will ask that people work together to find out
what processes are right for the ASF at this point in time, even if
these proces
On Apr 16, 2012 11:26 AM, "Jukka Zitting" wrote:
>
> Are any of the JSPWiki mentors (I see Dave Johnson, Craig Russell,
> Henning Schmiedehausen and Sam Ruby listed) still actively following
> the project? Nobody signed off the JSPWiki report and I got no
> responses to
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>
> On Apr 16, 2012 11:26 AM, "Jukka Zitting" wrote:
>>
>> Are any of the JSPWiki mentors (I see Dave Johnson, Craig Russell,
>> Henning Schmiedehausen and Sam Ruby listed) still actively following
>> th
. Within the
incubator, podling mailing list names are expected to have a specific
format. But the mapping of podling names to mailing list names
sometimes varies...
Suggestions welcome. I'm starting with the incubator as it is the
source for a bulk of the requests...
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uot; or additional mailing list
requests, heres new versions of the forms for review (url names are
NOT final):
https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/asfmlreq
https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/incmlreq
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omes too easy to create malling lists, the
next problem will be requests to the infrastructure team to rename
lists or moderator names when typos occur :-)
For those who are interested, source is here:
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y when approached by potential new projects to mention a
desire to bring on other participants. This does not need to be
expressed as a diversity requirement. Reality dictates that it does,
however, need to be an elevator pitch.
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to see a resourceAlias attribute. Or even a
resourceAliases attribute (allowing multiple names, separated by a
space and/or a comma).
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yee of said
company commit whatever changes are required. Rumor has it that there
is an Adobe employee or two subscribed to this list. :-)
If we can find such a volunteer, then there is no reason for any
further discussion.
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and our position and
agrees to moving it, there are a number of ways that this can be
expressed clearly. I still maintain that having an Adobe employee do
such a move would be the simplest and clearest way, but other ways are
possible too.
> Kalle
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e possible for the individual to send a signed letter to
secret...@apache.org? Or fax such to to +1-919-573-9199?
If such is possible,we will file it in our foundation records and
confirm to the PPMC that it has been received.
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> sebb wrote:
>> David Crossley wrote:
>> > Sam Ruby wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I would love to see a resourceAlias attribute. Or even a
>> >> resourceAliases attribute (allowing mul
https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/foundation/board/apache-steve.txt
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P.S. I apologize for publishing private links to a public list, but the
clear intent here is to open everything up. We just need to figure out
the b
to anybody that finds their way to that page that the issue tracker is
managed on behalf of the Apache Allura (incubating) project.
I don't believe that the following page currently does that:
http://sourceforge.net/p/allura/tickets/
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> http://people.apache.org/~twgoetz/uima-2.2.0-incubating/
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Project Name: CouchDB
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==Proposal==
The goal is to create either an Apache top level project, or a db
subproject, around the existing CouchDB open source project.
Key Features:
* a REST API using JSON for data transport
it. Again,
I don't presume that we will want to do that, but given the proper
NOTICEs, inclusion of Erlang binaries may be a possibility.
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> The original source for this proposal can be found at
>
> http://www.couchdbwiki.com/index.php?title=Apache_Incubator_Proposal
>
> and a current snapshot is attached below. Once we have established that
> th
duced below.
I would like to proudly start this off with my +1.
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http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CouchDBProposal
Project Name: CouchDB
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== Proposal ==
The goal is to create either an Apache top level project around the
existing CouchDB open source project.
On Feb 9, 2008 11:09 AM, Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We've had an initial discussion, which attracted a number of messages
> of encouragement, and identified no issues or concerns. Then we
> proceeded onto a proposal, which attracted three excellent mentors.
> No
vn eol styles.
> And we are taking these things to heart. However,
> at the same time, we *would* like to release UIMA
> 2.2.2 now, and we're 1 (one) vote short. Anyone?
+1 for release
jar file names and svn eol styles can be tweaked on next release.
> --Thilo
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that resulted in 5 binding +1s
> (all the committers), one 0s and no -1s. The vote thread
> is here:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-uima-dev/200804.mbox/[EMAIL
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>
> It'd be good to see their +1s here.
OK, here's mine: +1
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> +1
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goals, and Umbrella -- each, of course, could be
addressed/mitigated, that's why I am recommendating that we defer this
decision until we have had a chance to observe the community. (Note:
this is not a new idea, I've suggested it on number of occasions before).
With all that said, here&#x
Leo Simons wrote:
>>
>>Champion: Sam Ruby
>>
>>Mentors:
>>
>> * Garrett Rooney
>> * Paul Querna
>
> One more would be good :-). Perhaps you should volunteer -- you're
> pretty good at it...and you'll be working on the stuff anyway...
t; 4) Renamed the ZIP files to Apache-Synapse-Incubating-M2.*
> 5) Renamed the src directory to synapse-src
> 6) Added a licenses directory with the licenses of all subcomponents used
> 7) Rebuilt and resigned the files.
+1 (on the original call for a vote, in cas
Charles Mark wrote:
What's happening with Kabuki? Looking at email archives, apparently
it was approved in February. Three months later, there is still no
development, no community, and no code, and apparently no activity
either. Sam Ruby is champion and mentor of Kabuki, right? Would you
Sam Ruby wrote:
With the following votes cast:
+1 Sam Ruby
+1 Garrett Rooney
+1 Paul Fremantle
+1 Davanum Srinivas
+1 Yoav Shapira
+1 Jim Jagielski
+1 Robert Burrell Donkin
+1 Martin Cooper
+1 Geir Magnusson Jr
... this vote passes.
At this point I'd like to ask that the me
d understanding of the code,
and was told that my patch wasn't acceptable, and that XML parsers that
require well-formedness were broken anyway -- despite that being
explicitly what the spec requires.
I'd be willing to try again, but only if there was active interest in
actually fi
om
within their number. at least one mentor would therefore need to commit to
devote the energy required to perform this role. they would also form the
first point of contact for the incubator pmc.
opinions?
+1
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Now each project is different. I can imagine other cases where this
could work. And even with Tuscany, I can imagine handing off the chair
role to somebody during incubation and letting them take ownership (with
Dims and I as mo
[X] +1 Accept UIMA as an Incubator podling
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pendulum has swung too far - we seem to
have a number of potential projects effectively "parked" in incubation.
In the case of Harmony, I would be prepared to vote for graduation.
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Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On 10/18/06, Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At ApacheCon, it was noticed that at the present time the number of
podlings exceeds the number of Apache projects (I believe the figures
quoted were 37 to 35).
I am of the opinion that the pendulum has swung t
Returning the subject back to Harmony, with regard to a release, what
matters more to me is whether or not those who are directly involved
with Harmony (which most decidedly does *not* include me) are interested
in producing a release at this time. If not, and if their reasons make
sens
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