Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-16 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Seems like for the past two weeks I only have weekends to respond :-( Apologies for the delay on this thread. On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: >> > 1) The concept of a brand covering some artifact doesn't come into play >> at >> > all. Instead, there are two things that happen.

Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-16 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 6:30 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > On Aug 9, 2015 8:33 PM, "Roman Shaposhnik" wrote: >> >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:46 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz >> wrote: >> > On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 2:50 AM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: >

Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-16 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > >> > The Hadoop PMC is utterly free to produce a Hadoop RPM with Hadoop in it >> > that corresponds to an Apache Hadoop release. Having project Foo &

Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

2015-08-16 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > On 8/7/15 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >> Bill, >> So I can release "Niclas Hadoop platform, based on Apache Hadoop" ?? I >> thought the discussion a few years ago was that this was misleading... > > No, you cannot. See our actual trademar

Re: [DRAFT] August 2015 Board Report - Please Review

2015-08-17 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 7:52 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 1:16 PM Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Marvin Humphrey >> wrote: >> > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 4:31 PM, John D. Ament >> wrote: >> >>

Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

2015-08-17 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > On 8/16/15 4:25 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: >>> On 8/7/15 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >>>> Bill, >>>> So I can release "Nicla

Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-17 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > >> Now that takeaway from this thread for me so far is this: in order for the >> trademark enforcement to be invoked there has to be a legitimate concern

[DISCUSS] HAWQ Incubation Proposal

2015-08-20 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
a * Charles Alan Litzell * David Yozie * Caleb Welton * Parham Parvizi * Dan Baskette * Christian Tzolov * Tushar Pednekar * Greg Chase * Chloe Jackson * Michael Nixon * Roman Shaposhnik * Alan Gates * Owen O'Malley * Thejas Nair * Don Bosco Durai * Konstantin Boud

Re: [DISCUSS] HAWQ Incubation Proposal

2015-08-20 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:33 PM, 김영우 (Youngwoo Kim) wrote: > Hi Roman, > > Great news! > > BTW, it might be a invalid URL for the proposal. Should be > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HAWQProposal ? Two may copy-paste buffers strike again :-( Thanks for spotting it so quickly. Yes it is: ht

Re: [DISCUSS] HAWQ Incubation Proposal

2015-08-21 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
it would be better corrected. > > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:33 PM, 김영우 (Youngwoo Kim) > wrote: > >> Hi Roman, >> >> Great news! >> >> BTW, it might be a invalid URL for the proposal. Should be >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HAWQProposal ?

Re: [DISCUSS] HAWQ Incubation Proposal

2015-08-21 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 2:54 AM, Christian Tzolov wrote: > Is PXF (HAWQ extension framework) going to be managed together with the > HAWQ ASF project or as a child one? For now it is part of the same codebase managed by the same community. If it gets picked up by other communities we may start as

Re: [DISCUSS] HAWQ Incubation Proposal

2015-08-21 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 3:00 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Is Madlib even viable as an independent project? Yes it is extremely viable. There's been a number of prototypes of porting MADlib to other SQL-on-Hadoop projects (Impala is the one I know of) and also quite a bit of activity on the PostgreSQL

Re: [DISCUSS] HAWQ Incubation Proposal

2015-08-21 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 5:14 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > ... >> == External Dependencies ==... > > There's some GPL/LGPL stuff in there, IMO the proposal should include > a plan for coping with those.

Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:06 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > There are some special things here we do have absolute control over. If a > project wants to provide the 'official' build, why not start signing the > .jar? This! This is such a great idea. Would love this to be weaved into our policy (

Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Stephen Connolly wrote: > But I am still awaiting guidance from brand on whether a technical name > usage - e.g. installer package name - is a use of the mark. Makes two of us. I see a log of good consensus on this thread which helps me get a gut feel on what is t

Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

2015-08-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Fascinating discussion, who started this thread? ;-) On a more serious note (actually, very serious one): On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > Our policy is that the combined works are RELEASED under ALv2. That combined > work > is only licensed as such when the foundation fo

Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

2015-08-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > [Failing at dealing with this cross-posted and variously-branched discussion > on two lists, > so I am doing it too. Also OT with respect to Ross's declaration, but it has > to do with the > fact that "release" is not so well disting

Re: [DISCUSS] HAWQ Incubation Proposal

2015-08-28 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> Hi! >> >> I would like to start a discussion on accepting HAWQ >> into ASF Incubator. The proposal is available at: >> https://wiki.

Re: [DISCUSS] HAWQ Incubation Proposal

2015-08-28 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:47 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 12:35 AM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz >> wrote: >>>... There's some GPL/LGPL stuff in there, IMO the

Re: [DISCUSS] HAWQ Incubation Proposal

2015-08-28 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 11:44 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 5:14 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> ...most of the core developers are currently NOT affiliated >> with the ASF and would require new ICLAs before committing to the >> project >

[VOTE] Accept HAWQ into the Apache Incubator

2015-08-31 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
xi (Jesse) Zhang * Michael P Schubert * C.J. Jameson * Jacob Frank * Ben Calegari * Shoabe Shariff * Rob Day-Reynolds * Mel S Kiyama * Charles Alan Litzell * David Yozie * Ed Espino * Caleb Welton * Parham Parvizi * Dan Baskette * Christian Tzolov * Tushar Pednekar * Gr

[DISCUSS] MADlib Incubation Proposal

2015-09-02 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
i Harada * Hulya Emir-farinas * Ian Huston * KeeSiong Ng * Noel Sio * Rahul Iyer * Rashmi Raghu * Regunathan Radhakrishnan * Ronert Obst * Samuel Ziegler * Sarah Aerni * Srivatsan Ramanujam * Woo Jae Jung * Xixuan Feng * Yu Yang * Atri Sharma * Greg Chase * Chloe Jackson

Re: Same for Kalumet

2015-09-02 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 3:35 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > All, > > Looking at the archives, it seems that Kalumet has been monthly for a > while, missing June, July and August now. There is 0 activity on all MLs, > public and private. > > I'm not sure there are any signs of life on this podling and

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Sep 2015 ([ppmc])

2015-09-02 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
I am a little confused as to why DataFU is on the report schedule when we reported last month. Can anyone, please let me know? Thanks, Roman. On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Marvin wrote: > > > Dear podling, > > This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator > PM

Re: [VOTE] Accept HAWQ into the Apache Incubator

2015-09-04 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Following the discussion earlier: >http://s.apache.org/Gaf > > I would like to call a VOTE for accepting HAWQ > as a new incubator project. > > The proposal is available at: > https://wiki.apache.org/incu

[RESULT] [VOTE] Accept HAWQ into the Apache Incubator

2015-09-04 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Following the discussion earlier: >http://s.apache.org/Gaf > > I would like to call a VOTE for accepting HAWQ > as a new incubator project. > > The proposal is available at: > https://wiki.apache.org/incu

Re: Move HAWQ, HORN to different reporting group

2015-09-08 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Makes perfect sense! Thanks, Marvin. Thanks, Roman. On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > Greets, > > Our podlings are unevenly distributed among the 3 reporting groups, > resulting in a heavy load once every three months. > > * 1 (Jan, Apr, July, Oct): 18 podlings > * 2 (Feb,

Re: [DISCUSS] MADlib Incubation Proposal

2015-09-08 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:06 AM, Atri Sharma wrote: > Now that HAWQ vote is closed can we also have a consensus on this proposal > please? I think that would make sense. I'll start a voting thread soon. Thanks, Roman. - To unsub

Re: Calcite graduation vote

2015-09-09 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Indeed! Huge step and best of luck to you guys as a future TLP. Thanks, Roman. On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Big step. > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > >> Pursuant to the graduation policy[1] it is my pleasure to inform the IPMC >> that the C

Re: [NOTICE] corinthia PPMC+committer -= dortef, franz, gbg, ianc, jani, louis, pmkelly

2015-09-09 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Hello; > > I am sad to see corinthia move outside the ASF. It looks like it's pretty > late to change that and as someone said Apache is not for everyone. In any > case I thought I'd comment: > > In Apache OpenOffice we considered the same sit

[VOTE] Accept MADlib into the Apache Incubator

2015-09-09 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
tial Committers == * Anirudh Kondaveeti * Caleb Welton * Frank McQuillan * Gang Xiong * Gautam Muralidhar * Hitoshi Harada * Hulya Emir-farinas * Ian Huston * KeeSiong Ng * Noel Sio * Rahul Iyer * Rashmi Raghu * Regunathan Radhakrishnan * Ronert Obst * Samuel Ziegler * Sarah A

Re: [VOTE] Accept MADlib into the Apache Incubator

2015-09-10 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 7:37 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Following the discussion earlier: >http://s.apache.org/TE6 > > I would like to call a VOTE for accepting > MADlib community as a new ASF incubator > project. > > The proposal is available at: > https:

Re: Should Apache VOTEs be in a first-come, first-serve queue?

2015-09-14 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi Marko, On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Marko Rodriguez wrote: >> I think that Marvin's question to you was pretty cogent. Would you be >> willing to spend an hour or so each on 5 different projects you aren't >> involved in before getting to put your own project up for a release? Would >> it

[RESULT] [VOTE] Accept MADlib into the Apache Incubator

2015-09-15 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 7:37 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Following the discussion earlier: >http://s.apache.org/TE6 > > I would like to call a VOTE for accepting > MADlib community as a new ASF incubator > project. > > The proposal is available at: > https:

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Calcite from the Apache Incubator

2015-09-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > This is a vote for Calcite to become a top-level project. > > Since joining the Incubator in May, 2014, the Calcite > community has: > * Produced eight IPMC-approved releases under two release > managers; > * Added five new committers and one

Re: [VOTE] Accept Unomi into the Apache Incubator

2015-09-29 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
-osgi >> * org.apache.httpcomponents:httpcore-osgi >> * org.apache.servicemix.bundles.jakarta-regexp >> * pax-cdi >> * javax.servlet-api >> * jackson >> * org.osgi.core >> * commons-lang3 >> * commons-collections >> * org.mvel:mvel2 >> * commons-be

Re: [VOTE] Accept Unomi into the Apache Incubator

2015-09-29 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré > wrote: >> ...Gently reminder, I "extend" the vote for 24 hours... > > Why? It looks like we have 3 binding +1s, and the 72 hour period is over. True, but at least it gave me a

Podling Shark Tank at ApacheCON CORE on Thu 1sth of Oct @13:30

2015-09-30 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Bayer (starring as Daymond John) and * Shane Curcuru (starring as Mark Cuban) and the podling pitches will include: * Corinthia (presented by Roman Shaposhnik) * Tamaya (presented by Anatole Tresch) * Trafodion (presented by Rohit Jain) * Ranger (presented by Owen O'Malley)

Concerted Proposal

2015-10-04 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! as some of you know, Atri and I have been discussing his Concerted Proposal lately: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ConcertedProposal At this point I can no longer offer my mentorship services (I ended up quite overloaded as it is) and I feel it is only fair to Atri if I ask for help her

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

2015-10-10 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > Hi Incubator folks, > > I would like to propose we adopt a mentor neutrality policy for > incubating podlings: > > - A mentor must not be financially tied to the project or its incubation > status. I'm very strongly -1 on this for two reasons.

Re: [VOTE] Accept Concerted into the Apache Incubator

2015-10-10 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Atri Sharma wrote: > Hi all, > > Following the discussion about Concerted I would like to call a vote for > accepting Concerted as a new incubator project. > > The proposal text is included below, and available on the wiki: > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Conc

Re: Starting from the other end

2015-10-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > We have just had a few interminable threads regarding what is wrong with > incubator and jumping directly to implementation attempts for changes. > > That isn't the way I would code something complex so it seems to me that by > analogy we might

Re: Starting from the other end

2015-10-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: >> We already have what amounts to three paths: there is the full >> Incubation process; there is is IP clearance, and there is straight to >> TLP. We can view these as three points on a spectrum. Having a well >> defined exit criteria and onl

Re: Starting from the other end

2015-10-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Roman Shaposhnik >> wrote: >> >>> I think I'm with Sam. I think these are related. Or to be more explicit: >&

Re: Starting from the other end

2015-10-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 2:07 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Inline > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Ted Dunning >> wrote: >> > We have just had a few interminable threads regarding what is w

Re: Mentor disengagement - a suggestion

2015-10-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: > Fellow mentors, > > There was a conversation at ApacheCon about the Incubator. I'll leave it to > the other participants to champion the particular parts that they are > passionate about, but I was particularly concerned with mentor > disengagem

Re: Starting from the other end

2015-10-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 2:36 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > >> >> Ted, was it your intent to first get an agreement on *what* we all >> expect >> >> from the Incubator and then follow up on *how* are t

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Groovy from the Incubator

2015-10-31 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
gt; PMC the final list going into the resolution will look like this > > Cédric Champeau > Paul King > Guillaume Laforge > Pascal Schumacher > Jochen Theodorou > Andrew Bayer > Konstantin Boudnik > Roman Shaposhnik > Jim Ja

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

2015-11-02 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Here's an idea: how about you guys fill out the maturity model template? I really liked how it turned out during the Groovy graduation discussion and perhaps it can help here as well. JIRA vs. MLs is but a single facet of how a project practices "Apache Way". Personally I'd like to see more data p

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

2015-11-03 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: >> ...Sentry started with 24 committers/PPMC. It hasn't added any PPMC members >> since its inception... > > If that's correct I'm -1 on graduating Sentry. > > and earlier he wrote

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

2015-11-04 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Nov 4, 2015 10:03 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz" > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: >> > ...If you read the graduation requirements it says nothing about adding > PPMC >> > as a strict requirement to grad

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

2015-11-04 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > For me, the key, nay brilliant, terms in the Maturity Model are about > "striving." > > The question is always, is there demonstrable striving toward the elements > identified in the maturity model. > > If that's not apparent, then one

Re: Resigning from Apache Geode mentor

2015-11-04 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Henry, let me just say once again: we are really grateful for your efforts around Geode. Sad to see you go. Thanks, Roman. On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Henry Saputra wrote: > As part of supporting the mentors engagement to codlings to give more > attentive help and mentoring, I have decided

Mentor vs. Champion

2015-11-04 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! I'm confused about why do I see my name in the mentor sign-off section here: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2015 I've just checked podlings.xml and I am only listed there as a Champion. Thoughts? Thanks, Roman. ---

Re: Resigning as HAWQ mentor

2015-11-04 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Owen, thanks for helping us out to get going! Sad to see you go. Thanks, Roman. On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > All, >I'd like to resign as a HAWQ mentor. HAWQ will still have 5 mentors, so > it should still be in good shape. > > Thanks, >Owen --

Re: Mentor disengagement - a suggestion

2015-11-04 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > I look to the ipmc chair to say what we MUST or MUST NOT do. I've learned > my lesson. Makes two of us. Still waiting on actionable guidance. Thanks, Roman. - To unsubscribe,

Re: Mentor vs. Champion

2015-11-04 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> Hi! >> >> I'm confused about why do I see my name >> in the mentor sign-off section here: >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubato

Re: Request for permission to edit the Apache MADlib (incubating) wiki

2015-11-04 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Frank McQuillan wrote: > Hello, > > Can someone kindly grant me permission to edit the MADlib wiki > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/Apache+MADlib+Home Done! Thanks, Roman. - T

Re: maturity guidelines (was Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation)

2015-11-05 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > I don't think anybody is pining to make compliance with Bertrand's very nice > document into a policy document. To be fair, one offshoot of the 'undersigned' epic had that implication. It got shot down with 'trust the mentors' argument. And..

Re: maturity guidelines (was Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation)

2015-11-05 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > IIRC you Roman were on the list of "undersigned" ;-). Yup. And that's why I felt like clarifying. > It got shot down for many, many reasons. Well, that depends on what 'it' is. But that's a different conversation ;-) Thanks, Roman. ---

Re: Instructions for granting podling members karma

2015-11-10 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:22 AM, sebb wrote: > Huh? > > The point is that podlings should be encouraged to manage things for > themselves where possible. > [If every karma change had to be managed by Infra then it could add a > lot to their workload.] On a very much related note: I'd like to give

Resigning as a Trafodion mentor

2015-11-10 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! I'd like to resign as a Trafodion mentor. You guys still have 5 mentors left which means you won't even notice me disappearing ;-) Best of luck with the rest of the incubation. Thanks, Roman. P.S. I'll update the xml tomorrow. ---

Re: [VOTE] Apache DataFu 1.3.0 (incubating)

2015-11-14 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Matthew Hayes wrote: > Hi all, > > The Apache DataFu community has voted on and approved a proposal to release > Apache DataFu 1.3.0 (incubating). This is the first release since the > project began incubating! > > Proposal: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod

Re: [VOTE] Retire Corinthia

2015-11-15 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > Greetings, > > The Corinthia community has voted to retire: > > http://s.apache.org/odN > > This is a vote of the IPMC to confirm the decision to retire the podling. > > [ ] +1 to retire Corinthia from the Incubator > [ ] -1 to keep Corin

Re: [VOTE] Accept Kudu into the Apache Incubator

2015-11-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Todd Lipcon wrote: > Hi all, > > Discussion on the [DISCUSS] thread seems to have wound down, so I'd like to > call a VOTE on acceptance of Kudu into the ASF Incubator. The proposal is > pasted below and also available on the wiki at: > https://wiki.apache.org/inc

Re: [VOTE] Accept Impala into the Apache Incubator

2015-11-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Henry Robinson wrote: > Hi - > > The [DISCUSS] thread has been quiet for a few days, so I think there's been > sufficient opportunity for discussion around our proposal to bring Impala > to the ASF Incubator. > > I'd like to call a VOTE on that proposal, which is o

Re: [VOTE] Retire Ripple

2015-11-30 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
+1 (binding) On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: > +1 > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:54 PM, Marvin Humphrey > wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> The Ripple community has been discussing retirement on their dev list. >> >> http://s.apache.org/LjX >> >> It would be more clear cut if

FOSDEM 2016 - take action by 4th of December 2015

2015-11-30 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
As most of you probably know FOSDEM 2016 (the biggest, 100% free open source developer conference) is right around the corner: https://fosdem.org/2016/ We hope to have an ASF booth and we would love to see as many ASF projects as possible present at various tracks (AKA Developer rooms): htt

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Accept Impala into the Apache Incubator

2015-12-01 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > The only mention of consensus I could find is in the actual development of > the actual > proposal. I’m sure one could argue that that implies that whether consensus > is achieved > is by the vote, but with a group as large as the IPMC it woul

Re: Shepherd Shortage for December Report

2015-12-02 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 5:21 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: >> On Dec 2, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: >> >> It's not a concern -- it's a blessing. The shepherd institution needs to die. > > Then I'd say let it die. My only concern is that that it offers a way for > non-members an > entry

Re: Impala commit policy

2015-12-02 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > “No explicit commit policy” means that only committers can commit. > It is each committer’s discretion whether they ask for others to review > the change before they commit it, whether they check in code that doesn’t > build, whether they run th

Re: [VOTE] Accept Metron into Apache Incubator

2015-12-03 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Let me ping my contact as well. Thanks, Roman. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > I am also working on my contacts to find the right person. > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 8:34 AM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > >> +1 (binding) >> >> I think it would be prudent to at least try to ge

Re: [VOTE] Accept Fineract into Apache Incubator

2015-12-10 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 3:21 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > I would like to call a vote on accepting the Fineract project into the Apache > Incubator. The proposal is pasted below and posted at > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FineractProposal > > The vote will run for at least 72hrs > > [ ] +1 Acc

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tempo - A proposal for an enterprise IoT platform

2015-12-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi Tony! Has there been any activity around this proposal? I find it really interesting, and just like Hadrian I really would love to see the code on GitHub (although it is NOT a pre-requisite to being consider for ASF Incubator). Thanks, Roman. P.S. Greetings from your past life managing JavaSt

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tempo - A proposal for an enterprise IoT platform

2015-12-26 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Tony Faustini wrote: > Hi Roman, yes there has been activity. I sent Hadrian the source code to > review and share with others who are interested in being mentors. Our plan > is to make it public via Github or Bitbucket. We are also reviewing the name > ‘Tempo’ as

Re: File headers for third party utility code

2016-01-04 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Todd Lipcon wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm working on verifying licenses and copyrights, etc, in Apache Kudu > (incubating). There is one area I wanted to confirm the right way to > document in our LICENSE/NOTICE files: > > Kudu makes use of a lot of open source utility c

Re: File headers for third party utility code

2016-01-04 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > On 1/4/16, 3:02 PM, "shaposh...@gmail.com on behalf of Roman Shaposhnik" > wrote: >> >>> 2) In the cases that we've made non-trivial changes to the source, we >>> should additionally

Re: Concerted may be in need of help

2016-01-08 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Atri, > > It looks like community building is going slowly with Concerted. This is > understandable as a part-time activity. > > Would it be simpler and better for the project to build a community outside > Apache and bring the project back for

Re: [IPMC Projects] may be in need of^w^w^w^w^ware looking for help!

2016-01-10 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Tom Barber wrote: > Just to second some of that, both incubator and outside, it would be cool > if the ASF had a 'jobs board' of sorts, where projects could add "adverts" > for people when they are short of specific help. Or conversely if I'm bored > and want to do

Re: OK to distribute some GPL licensed build tools?

2016-01-10 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > Changing subject so not to pollute the Singa VOTE thread. > > So it seem the GPL with this special exception are OK to distribute. [3][4] > > Looks like our documentation may need to be updated/clarified in a couple of > places. > >

Re: Post mortem request for the handling of the Corinthia podling (was Re: FYI, I have subscribed to this list and to your private list)

2016-01-16 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Alex Harui wrote: >>The ticking time bomb, as we discovered several months in, was the >>disconcertingly-named “Category X list”, described at >>http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html (under "Which licenses may not >>be included within apache products?”). This l

Re: Post mortem request for the handling of the Corinthia podling (was Re: FYI, I have subscribed to this list and to your private list)

2016-01-16 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Danese Cooper wrote: > >> It is true that the ASF and the FSF have historically been religiously >> incompatible on the subject of licensing combinatorics. As I usually >> explain to my clients, the worst case

Re: PodlingIP Clearance for Additional Code Donations

2016-01-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > The process for accept a podling and the initial code base is pretty clear, > since it undergoes an IPMC vote. > > But what happens when there are additional chunks of code donated during > incubation? Is that OK under the original IPMC vot

Re: PodlingIP Clearance for Additional Code Donations

2016-01-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > I am asking what the process should be for a podling accepting further > donations of code. Seems to me they should be following the normal IP > process that a PMC would. That's kind of what my reply was, wasn't it? Thanks, Roman. --

Re: [VOTE] HAWQ 2.0.0-beta-incubating RC4

2016-01-26 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Ting(Goden) Yao wrote: > (I was told this email wasn't received by the mailing list so resending it) > > Incubator PMC, > > The Apache HAWQ (incubating) community has voted on and > approved the proposal to release Apache HAWQ 2.0.0-beta (incubating). > The voting

Re: [VOTE] HAWQ 2.0.0-beta-incubating RC4

2016-01-27 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > -1 binding until license and crypto issues are cleared up. Justin, thanks for your quick review -- you're awesome, man! Still I have a few questions/comments ;-) > I notice the NOTICE mentions "Classpath Exception to the GPL” this

Re: Confusion over NOTICE vs LICENSE files

2016-02-03 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi > > It seems that some of the confusion comes from what top level projects have > done and not keep up with policy? > From a 5 minute search (and not to pick on / point out any particular > project) here’s some examples were > I think imp

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Geode (incubating) 1.0.0-incubating.M1

2016-02-03 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Anthony Baker wrote: > Hello, > > This is a call for a vote on the Apache Geode (incubating) release > 1.0.0-incubating.M1. > > This release candidate, 1.0.0-incubating.M1.RC2, has successfully passed a > vote for a release on the geode developer mailing list. > >

Re: [VOTE] HAWQ 2.0.0-beta-incubating RC4

2016-02-03 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Justin, once again -- thank you so much for your diligent reviews! Wrt. NOTICE/LICENSE files can you please take a look at this and see if that's acceptable: https://github.com/rvs/incubator-hawq/blob/master/LICENSE https://github.com/rvs/incubator-hawq/blob/master/NOTICE Wrt. crypto code -

Re: [VOTE] HAWQ 2.0.0-beta-incubating RC4

2016-02-03 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 7:00 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > So should we cancel this vote and wait for a new RC? Yup. Thanks, Roman. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:

Making license adjustment tools publicly available

2016-02-04 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! a podling recently asked me why: https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/relicense/ https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/tools/copy2license.pl are only available to commiters. I see no reason why, but of course I'm appreciative of the warning here: https://svn.ap

Re: [VOTE] HAWQ 2.0.0-beta-incubating RC4

2016-02-04 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > >> can you please take a look at this and see if that's acceptable: >> https://github.com/rvs/incubator-hawq/blob/master/LICENSE >> https://github.com/rvs/incubator-hawq/blob/master/NOTICE >>

Re: [VOTE] HAWQ 2.0.0-beta-incubating RC4

2016-02-04 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > >> I mean the BSD license makes you advertise the Copyright Notice and there's >> a better >> chance of it going downstream via NOTICE. > > The source file will have the header which contains the copyright notice so > it will still be

Re: Making license adjustment tools publicly available

2016-02-05 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 11:24 AM, sebb wrote: > On 5 February 2016 at 00:14, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> Hi! >> >> a podling recently asked me why: >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/relicense/ >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/commit

Re: DRAFT report February 2016 -- please review

2016-02-08 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
off-by: > > [ ](eagle) Owen O'Malley > [x](eagle) Henry Saputra > [x](eagle) Julian Hyde > [ ](eagle) P. Taylor Goetz > [x](eagle) Amareshwari Sriramdasu > > Shepherd/Mentor notes: > > Julian Hyde (jhyde): > > Project is beginning to focus on p

Re: New ASF visual identity

2016-02-08 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Marvin Humphrey > wrote: > >> The main Incubator website needs to be updated with the new visual >> identity, as do podling websites. >> >> I volunteer to create a drop-in replacement for the egg logo: > >

Re: [VOTE] HAWQ 2.0.0-beta-incubating RC4

2016-02-08 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > >> Well, that's the problem -- the source doesn't have it. > > It should as the first couple of line of the BSD license header are like so > (from a file I happen to be looking at at this instance): > > /* > * Copyright (c) 2015, Nordic

Re: FW: [DISCUSSION] How to deal with runtime dependencies

2016-02-10 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Markus Geiß wrote: > Hey all, > > We've started a thread at our dev list and forgot to send it to the > general incubator list too. > Any opinion is appreciated, you can find the original message below. > > Best, > > Markus > > .::YAGNI likes a DRY KISS::. > >> Fr

Re: [VOTE] MADlib v1.9alpha-rc1

2016-02-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi Justin, as usual thanks a million for your thorough review. A couple of points though. On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry -1 (binding) for possible inclusion of MPL licensed source code in the > source > release and uncertainty of licensing of files missing

Project Kudu. .NET edition

2016-02-26 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! while working on some .NET Foundation projects I've come across: https://www.dotnetfoundation.org/kudu Not sure how much of a problem this could be for Apache Kudu (incubating). Thanks, Roman. - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

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