Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache Tephra-0.11.0-incubating [rc2]

2017-03-15 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 Unpacked source tarball, layout looks ok. Checked sums and signature: ok LICENSE and NOTICE: ok DISCLAIMER: ok RAT check passes: ok Built from source: ok (7u80) Unit tests pass: ok (7u80) On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Gokul Gunasekaran wrote: > Hi all, > > This is a call for a vote on re

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache PredictionIO 0.11.0 (incubating) RC2

2017-04-22 Thread Andrew Purtell
I will too, and then you will have two binding votes in the affirmative. > On Apr 22, 2017, at 12:34 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Pat Ferrel wrote: >> >> But is it worth doing yet another podling RC and release vote? >> > >> If it is, please vote -1, at

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache PredictionIO 0.11.0 (incubating) RC2

2017-04-22 Thread Andrew Purtell
ith the licensing. >> >> Here's my +1, not waiting for anything to be fixed. >> >> John >> >> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 7:43 PM Andrew Purtell >> wrote: >> >>> I will too, and then you will have two binding votes in the affirmative. >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache PredictionIO 0.11.0 (incubating) RC2

2017-04-23 Thread Andrew Purtell
ing vote, which > seems better in any case. These issues will be fixed asap in master and the > live site. > > > On Apr 22, 2017, at 6:28 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote: > > I was just trying to get something moving. Glad to see it. > > +1 (binding) > >>

Re: [VOTE] Livy to enter Apache Incubator

2017-05-31 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) > On May 31, 2017, at 6:03 AM, Sean Busbey wrote: > > Hi folks! > > I'm calling a vote to accept "Livy" into the Apache Incubator. > > The full proposal is available below, and is also available in the wiki: > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/LivyProposal > > For additional c

Re: [VOTE] Apache Gearpump (incubating) 0.8.4-RC1

2017-07-05 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Karol Brejna wrote: > IPMC Community, > > The PPMC vote to release Apache Gearpump (incubating) 0.8.4-RC1 has passed. > We would like to now submit this release candidate to the IPMC. > > The PPMC vote thread is here: > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d0

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache PredictionIO 0.12.0 (incubating) RC3

2017-09-26 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Chan Lee wrote: > Hi all, > > The PredictionIO community has voted that 0.12.0-incubating-rc3 to be good > for a source and binary release. This thread is to facilitate a voting for > the > IPMC before a final official source and binary release. > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO podling

2017-09-29 Thread Andrew Purtell
I am mentor and champion. I've made some comment on the incubator reports to the board about readiness, in the past few reports. PredictionIO has gotten the hang of making releases, is reliably following ASF policies and practice (I lurk on all the lists), has grown their PPMC, and on their own

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO podling

2017-10-03 Thread Andrew Purtell
e to a recommendation vote? > > Regards, > Donald > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > > > Hi Andrew, > > > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Andrew Purtell > > wrote: > > > ...I think

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO podling

2017-10-03 Thread Andrew Purtell
Thank you Shane! On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Donald Szeto wrote: > Awesome. Thanks for your clarification Shane! > > On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 4:44 PM Shane Curcuru wrote: > > > Andrew Purtell wrote on 10/3/17 5:59 PM: > > > I think we can proceed to a vote as so

Re: [VOTE] Graduate the Apache PredictionIO podling from Incubator to a TLP

2017-10-05 Thread Andrew Purtell
Forwarding my +1 (binding) from the PPMC vote I think the issues with the website are not fatal to the vote and I am confident will be addressed before it closes. I think it is also fine to wait for them to be addressed before proceeding. On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Donald Szeto wrote: > Hi

Re: [VOTE] Accept Druid into the Apache Incubator

2018-02-22 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 11:03 AM, Julian Hyde wrote: > Hi all, > > After some discussion on the Druid proposal[1], I'd like to > start a vote on accepting Druid into the Apache Incubator, > per the ASF policy[2] and voting rules[3]. > > A vote for accepting a new Apache Incubator p

Re: [VOTE] Accept HTrace into the Apache Incubator

2014-11-06 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Following the discussion earlier in the thread: >http://s.apache.org/Dk7 > > I would like to call a VOTE for accepting HTrace > as a new incubator project. > > The proposal is available at: > > https://wiki.apache.org/in

Re: [VOTE] Accept Kylin into the Apache Incubator

2014-11-20 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Luke Han wrote: > Following the discussion earlier in the thread: > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201411.mbox/%3ccakmqrob22+n+r++date33f3pcpyujhfoeaqrms3t-udjwk6...@mail.gmail.com%3e > > I would like to call a VOTE fo

Re: [PROPOSAL] NiFi for Incubation

2014-11-21 Thread Andrew Purtell
>From what I understand, that Accumulo may or may not suffer from "bifurcation" is debatable despite this blanket claim otherwise. Regardless, Sean's point is valid, even if only a theoretical concern for NiFi at this point. If the podling is interested in growing outside community I'd be happy to

Re: [PROPOSAL] NiFi for Incubation

2014-11-21 Thread Andrew Purtell
ion that request to enter incubation is a strong > intent to grow outside of the project's current home. > > +1 (non-binding) for entry > > > Andrew Purtell wrote: > >> From what I understand, that Accumulo may or may not suffer from >> "bifurcation"

Re: [VOTE] accept NiFi into the incubator

2014-11-21 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 ( binding) On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NiFiProposal has elicited a cheerful and > positive conversation, so I offer this vote. > > Vote will be open for the usual 72 hours ... > > Here is my [+1] > -- Best regards, - And

Re: [VOTE] accept SAMOA into incubator

2014-12-11 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Daniel Dai wrote: > Following the discussion earlier, I'm calling a vote to accept SAMOA as a > new Incubator project. > > [ ] +1 Accept SAMOA into the Incubator > [ ] +0 Indifferent to the acceptance of SAMOA > [ ] -1 Do not accept SAMOA because ..

Re: Incubator report sign-off

2014-12-29 Thread Andrew Purtell
There are honorary and practical reasons why a project may view the PMC Chair and the project leader as one in the same. Honorary: The community elevated one member as lead and assigned the Chair role out of respect. Practical: The PMC Chair has the power to dissolve the PMC, and is an office

Re: Incubator report sign-off

2014-12-29 Thread Andrew Purtell
ty. > On Dec 29, 2014, at 11:51 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > >> On 12/29/2014 01:45 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote: >> There are honorary and practical reasons why a project may view the PMC >> Chair and the project leader as one in the same. >> >> Honorar

Re: Incubator report sign-off

2015-01-05 Thread Andrew Purtell
> An addition of the overseeing committee, will shield the board from ​> ​ *some* of the day-to-day business of telling the pTLP that something ​> ​ needs to be fixed. Is this pretty close to IPMC in another name? Who gets to be on the new overseeing committee? Not current IPMC membership right?

Re: Incubator report sign-off

2015-01-05 Thread Andrew Purtell
> One extra thing to note, that while we can *start* this comittee as dedicated ​> ​ to Incubating projects, it will be a very natural extension to get it involved ​> ​ in monitoring all of TLPs, not just pTLPs. What problem exists today where the Board needs ​such ​ a buffer? In what ways could

Re: Incubator report sign-off

2015-01-09 Thread Andrew Purtell
Thanks Roman. On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Andrew Purtell > wrote: > >> One extra thing to note, that while we can *start* this comittee as > > dedicated > >> > > to Incubating projects, it wil

Re: Final draft of IPMC report for January 2015

2015-01-16 Thread Andrew Purtell
Thanks for bringing to my attention that I did not sign off on the HTrace report this month. It was due to an unfortunate busy spell. Since according to this report it appears I may not be able to adequately mentor HTrace, I have resigned as mentor from that podling effective immediately. On Wed,

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

2015-01-19 Thread Andrew Purtell
I think the cures are all problematic and might be worse than the disease. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > Hi! > > > > at this point we have had a few lively threads > > discussing three somewhat different

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

2015-01-19 Thread Andrew Purtell
I do not dispute anything written below nor do I intend this to be a last word, just a clarification. > I ​ n neither model are people powerless in any meaningful sense. I approached these proposals by putting myself in the shoes of a newcomer as best as I'm able (I've been PMC for years and PPMC

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

2015-01-20 Thread Andrew Purtell
e mentor-reboot > proposal. > > > Thanks! > > > Regards, > Alan > > > On Jan 19, 2015, at 3:55 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote: > > > > I think the cures are all problematic and might be worse than the > disease. > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-23 Thread Andrew Purtell
I find the direction this discussion has gone personally disappointing, but I might be missing understanding of some crucial point. > 2. the initial PMC is comprised of only ASF Members. committers can be ​> ​ chosen however the community decides. but the *project* is reviewed by ​> people with (h

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-23 Thread Andrew Purtell
the project. How is this not true? What can the incoming community make a binding vote on, under this proposal? On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Andrew Purtell > wrote: > > Those of us in such a new incoming communit

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
nd has no recourse but to go along > with the outcome of Apache politics or abandon the project. > > How is this not true? What can the incoming community make a binding vote > on, under this proposal? > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > >

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
me perhaps quaint notion.) Of course in IPMC voting it is different, but the IPMC is where supervision happens, or doesn't, as some argue. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Branko Čibej wrote: > On 25.01.2015 19:16, Andrew Purtell wrote: > > With a PPMC we invite newcomers to make

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
es to be meaningful. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Branko Čibej wrote: > On 25.01.2015 19:51, Andrew Purtell wrote: > >> That hardly ever happens (it's most likely when there are problems with > > ​> ​ > > a podling's first few releases), which is why you get

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
n-binding stakeholdership in decisionmaking on new commiters, releases, and so on. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Andrew Purtell wrote: > > This is *exactly* the way things work in a TLP. > > Yes, everyone new to the Foundation on the PPMC has a sense of equal > ownership i

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
In all of the projects I have been PMC or PPMC on, we vote on releases, new committers, and elevating committers to PMC. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Andrew Purtell > wrote: > > > > This is *exactly* the way th

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
Yes, and I briefly confused the two, and fessed up. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > Go to the FIRST POST of this thread (titled: "my pTLP view"!!). THAT is > what we're talking about. Not the Strawman. > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Andrew

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
out > +1 and similar as shorthand for our preference, but we never tally, as it > isn't a formal vote. > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Andrew Purtell > wrote: > > > In all of the projects I have been PMC or PPMC on, we vote on releases, > new > > committers,

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-26 Thread Andrew Purtell
15 21:07, Andrew Purtell wrote: > > I'm not arguing with you Greg (smile), honestly, Subversion sounds like a > > very laid back place to participate. It's different in Bigtop, HBase, > > Phoenix, Whirr (of historical note), and Hadoop (secondhand observation), > >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NiFI 0.0.1-incubating

2015-01-28 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Joe Witt wrote: > Hello > > The Apache NiFi (incubating) team is pleased to be calling this vote for > the source release of Apache > NiFi 0.0.1-incubating. > > With six binding (in the ppmc sense) +1 votes and no dissenting votes the > PPMC has appr

Re: [VOTE] Accept Groovy into the Apache Incubator

2015-03-20 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Following the discussion earlier in the thread: >http://s.apache.org/KWE > > I would like to call a VOTE for accepting Groovy > as a new incubator project. > > The proposal is available at: > https://wiki.apache.org

Re: Do we need @ASFIncubator ?

2015-03-23 Thread Andrew Purtell
It certainly wouldn't hurt to have another channel for getting the word out. I presume @ASFIncubator would announce new proposals, new projects, project graduations, and releases of incubating software? Anything else besides that ? (Which is quite a lot already.) This would be more Incubator covera

Re: [DISCUSS] Trafodion Incubation Proposal

2015-05-12 Thread Andrew Purtell
If you are looking for mentors, I helped on the Phoenix incubation, happy to do so again for Trafodion. On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Stack wrote: > I would like to start up a discussion on Trafodion joining the ASF as an > incubating project. > > Trafodion is a webscale SQL-on-Hadoop solution

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NiFi 0.1.0-incubating

2015-05-14 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 Checked signature and sums of nifi-parent (1.0.0), nifi-nar-maven-plugin (1.0.1) and nifi (0.1.0) source release zipfiles. Unpacked all source release zipfiles, layout looks good README, LICENSE, NOTICE, and DISCLAIMER files are present in each source zip and look ok Source builds of nifi-paren

Re: [VOTE] Accept Trafodion into Apache Incubator

2015-05-20 Thread Andrew Purtell
Java Cryptography > Extension (JCE) for Java code. > > Required Resources > > Mailing Lists > > priv...@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > d...@trafodion.incubator.apache.org comm...@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > > Git Repository > > https://git-wip-us.apache

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-12 Thread Andrew Purtell
As Sean says he's been engaged with the project while acting as mentor, IMHO beyond mentor-ly duties. If the NiFi folks will have him on the initial PMC and he's willing to join it, this should resolve the stated concerns. On Friday, June 12, 2015, Sean Busbey wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-15 Thread Andrew Purtell
providing realtime command and control > > > > > >> and detailed chain of custody for data; and be it further > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache NiFi from the Incubator

2015-06-17 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding, podling mentor) On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Joe Witt wrote: > Hello Apache Incubator > > This thread is to call a vote within the Incubator for the graduation > of Apache NiFi. > > Status page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/nifi.html > Incubator graduation discussion:

Re: [PROPOSAL]Pistachio

2015-06-22 Thread Andrew Purtell
> Pistachio can easily embed computation to the storage layer to achieve the > best data locality to improve the computation performance significantly > which is an innovative model comparing with the normal ways where the > storage and compute are independent to each other. Have you heard of some

Re: [PROPOSAL]Pistachio

2015-06-22 Thread Andrew Purtell
It was a simple question, and not meant to suggest anything one way or other regarding my opinion of this proposal. On Monday, June 22, 2015, John D. Ament wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:26 PM Andrew Purtell > wrote: > > > > Pistachio can easily embed computation to th

Re: [PROPOSAL]Pistachio

2015-06-26 Thread Andrew Purtell
gt; Please let me know if I'm not clear enough. > > Thanks, > Gavin Li > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Andrew Purtell > wrote: > > > It was a simple question, and not meant to suggest anything one way or > > other regarding my opinion of this proposal.

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Andrew Purtell
> ​ In fact, in my opinion it leads to the very unfortunate side effect of IPMC ​> ​ feeling in need to justify why it exists by micromanaging podlings. I've been through incubation as a mentor on Phoenix, Nifi, and now getting up to speed on Trafodion, I have not seen micromanagement of podlings.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Zipkin for Apache Incubator

2018-08-20 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 After the retirement of the HTrace podling to the attic we are facing a fragmentation or removal of distributed tracing capabilities from a set of related projects (Hadoop, HBase, and Phoenix) that could really use it. When considering a replacement I think if the replacement was also a project

Re: [VOTE] Accept Zipkin into the Apache Incubator

2018-08-27 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 binding > On Aug 26, 2018, at 8:26 PM, Adrian Cole wrote: > > +1 Accept Zipkin (non binding) >> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:14 AM Mick Semb Wever wrote: >> >> After a brief discussion¹ I would like to call a VOTE to accept Zipkin into >> the Apache Incubator. >> The full proposal is availab

Re: [VOTE] Retire Gearpump podling

2018-09-16 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 > On Sep 16, 2018, at 2:31 AM, Manu Zhang wrote: > > Hi mentors, > > The Gearpump podling has voted to retire from incubation. Here are the > relevant discussion and vote threads from the dev list. The vote passed > unanimously with 6 +1s. > > DISCUSS: > https://lists.apache.org/thread.htm

Re: Looking for a champion: resurrect log4j 1.x

2021-12-21 Thread Andrew Purtell
> as for the v1 :: COBOL analogy, that’s not a bad comparison. Basically, users who haven’t bothered to upgrade in 10 years will have to end up paying astronomical costs for consultants who can still work on ancient software effectively to help modify their systems. I have to take some exception t

Re: Looking for a champion: resurrect log4j 1.x

2022-01-08 Thread Andrew Purtell
vestigation and a migration may likely require huge effort in > testing. > >>> > >>> Assuming this quick upgrade path doesn't exist, and I already read > struggles by other projects trying to migrate to 2.x - maintaining 1.x and > doing a 1.2.x release makes

Re: Looking for a champion: resurrect log4j 1.x

2022-01-08 Thread Andrew Purtell
ecurity fix cannot be accomplished without a breaking change. We can cross that bridge when and if we come to it. It may never happen. Or, it might, and then 1 has truly reached the end of the road. On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 4:17 PM Matt Sicker wrote: > Answers below: > > > On Jan 8,

Re: Looking for a champion: resurrect log4j 1.x

2022-01-08 Thread Andrew Purtell
hair psychiatrist, I just want a logging library without known security bugs that remains compatible with existing code and configuration formats and does not force me to transitively upgrade/rebuild/modify the world. On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 5:00 PM Ralph Goers wrote: > > > > On

Re: Looking for a champion: resurrect log4j 1.x

2022-01-08 Thread Andrew Purtell
. Just a new release without JMSAppender. > On Jan 8, 2022, at 6:34 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: > >  >>> On Jan 8, 2022, at 19:39, Andrew Purtell wrote: >>> >>> Are you using the JMS appender? Are you using the socket receiver? If the >> answer is no t

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-24 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 this would be a good outcome. Both Tephra and OMID are good technologies, with respective pros and cons, and Phoenix can make good use of both of them, should they choose to accept ownership of the code. On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:26 AM Alan Gates wrote: > Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephr

Re: [DISCUSS] Omid and Tephra - Graduation (or Retirement?)

2019-11-21 Thread Andrew Purtell
Those aren’t comparable though, right? Solr was a sub project that graduated to a TLP. Omid and Tephra are projects that instead of becoming TLP’s “graduated” into the existing Phoenix TLP. Not the same thing. And also I don’t believe this result is unsuccessful. Neither Omid or Tephra cod

Re: [DISCUSS] Omid and Tephra - Graduation (or Retirement?)

2019-11-21 Thread Andrew Purtell
community and stable management. > On Nov 21, 2019, at 5:16 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > >  > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 21, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote: >> >> Those aren’t comparable though, right? >> >> Solr was a sub pro

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