Re: [DISCUSS] Freemarker Incubation proposal

2015-05-22 Thread Daniel Dekany
Technically (i.e., in source code), I don't think Velocity and Freemarker can share much. It seems that they kind of share fate though. Apparently, everyone has something more important to contribute to. And that's fine, I say, because what put these template engines into the spotlight 15(?) years

Re: [DISCUSS] Freemarker Incubation proposal

2015-05-22 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On May 22, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Daniel Dekany wrote: > Can the requirements for getting out from incubation successfully be > quantified? For the kind of project like this? I think that what Ted was referring to, when he mentioned "the voting requirements", is that a top level project, in order to

Re: [DISCUSS] Freemarker Incubation proposal

2015-05-22 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Some misc comments on the great feedback we have received so far (thanks to all for your help and interest): * Sergio, Ralph, we are happy to have you as mentors of Freemarker. I have edited the proposal document to include you in the mentors group; five mentors is plenty, so we should be good

Re: [DISCUSS] Freemarker Incubation proposal

2015-05-22 Thread Ted Dunning
As an interesting aside, increasing the scope of Freemarker might improve sexiness. Consider extending to be a Scala templating engine. Or some similar small effort that ropes in a new community. On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Jacopo Cappellato < jacopo.cappell...@gmail.com> wrote: > Some

Re: [DISCUSS] Freemarker Incubation proposal

2015-05-22 Thread Julian Hyde
Yes, I recently needed a lightweight templating engine (a single jar with no dependencies). I considered Freemarker, but rejected it. A freemarker-lite module would have hit the spot. Templating may not be sexy anymore, but it is useful for a wide variety of tasks, and it's not going away. Julian

Re: [DISCUSS] Freemarker Incubation proposal

2015-05-22 Thread Daniel Dekany
It's kind of OT, but Freemarker *is* a single jar with no dependencies. (All the dependencies are optional. Like if you don't use it with Servlets, it wont look for Serlvet classes.) Saturday, May 23, 2015, 1:17:47 AM, Julian Hyde wrote: > Yes, I recently needed a lightweight templating engine (a

Re: [DISCUSS] Freemarker Incubation proposal

2015-05-22 Thread Daniel Dekany
That's a good point. And these are also the things that are good fits for new committers (as opposed to evolving the core). With similar logic I'm looking for people who want to focus on improving Spring MVC integration for example. Or even Sturts integration (last time I saw it, it made no justice

RE: [PROPOSAL] ChimeraCRM

2015-05-22 Thread shibasis sengupta
Dear All, I have created a page "ChimeraCRM" for a CRM software. Please have a look whenever you get time. I have also added an attachment which shows the project with screenshots. I am in the process of creating a proposal to have this project accepted in Apache for Incubation. Regards - Shibas

Re: [PROPOSAL] ChimeraCRM

2015-05-22 Thread Ted Dunning
Shibasis Have you read the materials on how apache projects work to build community? Look at some of the other incubator proposals to see some of the issues that have been addressed. See in particular: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ProjectProposals http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Enteri

Re: [PROPOSAL] ChimeraCRM

2015-05-22 Thread Shibasis Sengupta
Thanks Ted, I will go through the links. I have read some details about the incubation process from the first link already. Also taking some cue from some other proposals I guess I am in a learning curve. Honestly I am very new to apache community... So please bear with my lack of knowledge f

Re: [DISCUSS] Freemarker Incubation proposal

2015-05-22 Thread Guillaume Laforge
Or rather Apache Groovy :-) 2015-05-23 1:04 GMT+02:00 Ted Dunning : > As an interesting aside, increasing the scope of Freemarker might improve > sexiness. > > Consider extending to be a Scala templating engine. Or some similar small > effort that ropes in a new community. > > > > On Fri, May 22