Re: [VOTE] [PROPOSAL] Accept OpenAz (Access Control Tools) into the Apache Incubator

+1 from me! Paul On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Dilli Arumugam wrote: > +1 > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:14 PM, DRAGOSH, PAMELA L (PAM) < > pdrag...@research.att.com> wrote: > > > +1 > > > > > > Pam > > > > Pamela L. Dragosh > > PMTS ­ Research > > One AT&T Way > > 4D-170P > > Bedminster, NJ 07

Re: [VOTE] [PROPOSAL] Accept OpenAz (Access Control Tools) into the Apache Incubator

+1 > On Jan 13, 2015, at 4:58 AM, Paul Fremantle wrote: > > +1 from me! > > Paul > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Dilli Arumugam > wrote: > >> +1 >> >> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:14 PM, DRAGOSH, PAMELA L (PAM) < >> pdrag...@research.att.com> wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> >>> >>> Pam >>> >>> Pam

Re: [VOTE][Proposal] TinkerPop: A Graph Computing Framework [RE-SUBMISSION]

+1 binding as well. On 2015-01-10 07:07, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: +1 binding Regards, Alan On Jan 9, 2015, at 8:58 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: +1 From the conversation with Marko, he intended to submit this as a formal vote, but didn't use the regular voting template. Voting will remain o

Re: What is "The Apache Way"?

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Doug Cutting wrote: > On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: >> I think a better analogy would be "US Culture". Yes it is as nebulous >> as it gets, but the fact that US Constitution exists as a written document >> makes a LOT of things WAY e

Re: [VOTE] [PROPOSAL] Accept OpenAz (Access Control Tools) into the Apache Incubator

+1 --- I call a vote to accept OpenAz as a new Incubator project. The proposal can be found here: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenAZProposal and is included below in this email. Voting will remain open unt

Re: What is "The Apache Way"?

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM, David Nalley wrote: > On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Doug Cutting wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > >> I think a better analogy would be "US Culture". Yes it is as nebulous > >> as it gets, but the fact that US Constitut

RE: What is "The Apache Way"?

Well, David, I'm afraid you are the authoritative source on the policy you use as an example. If it's not documented and that's a problem then it's *your* problem. You could (given even more time to volunteer to the ASF, solve it however you like (e.g. Write the doc, ask the community to write i

Re: What is "The Apache Way"?

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > ...Perhaps it is time we hired a contractor to draw up the one document of > truth?... If we do that we'd better make it modular, so that one would be the truth *about infrastructure matters*. -Bertrand -

Re: [VOTE] [PROPOSAL] Accept OpenAz (Access Control Tools) into the Apache Incubator

+1 binding Regards, Alan > On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Hal Lockhart wrote: > > I call a vote to accept OpenAz as a new Incubator project. > > The proposal can be found here: > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenAZProposal > > and is included below in this email. > > Voting will remain

Re: [VOTE][Proposal] TinkerPop: A Graph Computing Framework [RE-SUBMISSION]

+1. Colm. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > +1 binding as well. > > > On 2015-01-10 07:07, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > >> +1 binding >> >> >> Regards, >> Alan >> >> On Jan 9, 2015, at 8:58 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: >>> >>> +1 >>> >>> From the conversation with Marko, he i

Re: What is "The Apache Way"?

If we go that route, I'll "own" it, since it makes sense as a VP Legal responsibility in a lot of ways. > On Jan 13, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > >> >> Perhaps it is time we hired a contractor to draw up the one document of >> truth? >> > > My thoughts are that Sally certainl

Re: What is "The Apache Way"?

> > Perhaps it is time we hired a contractor to draw up the one document of truth? > My thoughts are that Sally certainly groks the Apache Way, and knows who to contact for more detailed info and clarification. Why not add this as a task to HALO, and put some $$$ towards it? ---

Re: What is "The Apache Way"?

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Well, David, I'm afraid you are the authoritative source on the policy you > use as an example. :) Well - I suppose I did open myself up for that. > If it's not documented and that's a problem then it's *your* problem. You

Re: [Proposal] TinkerPop: A Graph Computing Framework [RE-SUBMISSION]

On 01/10/2015 01:18 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: This still only has 3 committers. How is the project going to function with such a small group? I don't see that there has been a realistic answer to this question. This has been discussed by the (proposed) mentors along with the community membe

RE: What is "The Apache Way"?

Good suggestion. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Jim Jagielski Sent: ‎1/‎13/‎2015 9:33 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: What is "The Apache Way"? > > Perhaps it is time we hired a cont

RE: What is "The Apache Way"?

Even better suggestion. Do you want to take it up with Sally directly? (and big thanks in advance) Sent from my Windows Phone From: Jim Jagielski Sent: ‎1/‎13/‎2015 9:33 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org

RE: What is "The Apache Way"?

Thanks for taking my comment the way it was intended (to fuel productive debate) :-) You are right that VPs don't set policy but they should write policy and submit to the board for tuning and/or approval/rejection. In turn those VPs will typically consult with their committee members. It reall

Re: What is "The Apache Way"?

Will do :) > On Jan 13, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) > wrote: > > Even better suggestion. Do you want to take it up with Sally directly? (and > big thanks in advance) > > Sent from my Windows Phone > > From: Jim Jagielski

Re: [Proposal] TinkerPop: A Graph Computing Framework [RE-SUBMISSION]

On Tuesday, January 13, 2015, Rich Bowen wrote: On 01/10/2015 01:18 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: >> This still only has 3 committers... > ...We do not, however, feel that it is a barrier to entering incubation - merely something > to be addressed during incubation... I agree with that, and it looks

[VOTE] [PROPOSAL] Accept OpenAz (Access Control Tools) into the Apache Incubator

+1 binding have fun jan i On Tuesday, January 13, 2015, Alan D. Cabrera > wrote: > +1 binding > > > Regards, > Alan > > > On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Hal Lockhart > wrote: > > > > I call a vote to accept OpenAz as a new Incubator project. > > > > The proposal can be found here: > https://wiki.

Re: What is "The Apache Way"?

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:37 AM, David Nalley wrote: > wrote: >> Perhaps it is time we hired a contractor to draw up the one document of >> truth? >> >> I'm working on the 2015 budget now. Any volunteers to own this? Ownership >> is ensuring that the individual gets access to all the appropriat

Re: What is "The Apache Way"?

On Tuesday, January 13, 2015, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > ...If the Board is willing to commission such a document, I will make it happen That would be fantastic, I think you'd do a great job in coordinating this effort. As you say I do care a lot about those things, but I often lack the conti

RE: What is "The Apache Way"?

Marvin, it doesn't need "assigning". Just step up and do it. There may not be full consensus on the value of this, but I think there are enough people saying it has value to mean that it has some value. Note the overlapping mails from Jim. I think it makes a huge amount of sense to have budget

Re: What is "The Apache Way"?

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > I would pour my heart and soul into such a role. I would give everything I > have to coordinate the delivery of minimalist authoritative documentation > worthy of Apache's traditions. It would be a huge contribution to open > source > so

Re: Clear expectations

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Does it help anything to look at this, again, as failure modes? How about this failure mode? A podling receives thorough instruction on some policy during incubation. After graduation, that policy gets violated, but most PMC members don'

RE: Clear expectations

Marvin, Can you please expand on "I think the answer starts with the very skepticism of top-down governance which has in large part kept us from having clear rules up till now." I'm not clear on what the "skepticism" is that you refer to as these threads have indicated that there are at least

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Streams 0.1-incubating

Could you send the [CANCEL] thread to officially kill this VOTE? On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 1:52 AM, Ate Douma wrote: > -1 (binding) > > Besides the findings already reported by Justin Mclean in addition I > noticed: > - binary artifacts, including the -sources and -javadoc jars, do not contain > the

[CANCELLED] [VOTE] Release Apache Streams 0.1-incubating

We will address the issues identified by Justin and Ate and submit again. On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:52 AM, Ate Douma wrote: > -1 (binding) > > Besides the findings already reported by Justin Mclean in addition I > noticed: > - binary artifacts, including the -sources and -javadoc jars, do not > c

Re: Clear expectations

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Can you please expand on "I think the answer starts with the very skepticism > of top-down governance which has in large part kept us from having clear > rules up till now." > > I'm not clear on what the "skepticism" is that yo

RE: Clear expectations

Well with that clarification I'm a very strong +1 on everything you said :-) Ross -Original Message- From: Marvin Humphrey [mailto:mar...@rectangular.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 6:49 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Shane Curcuru Subject: Re: Clear expectations On Tue, J