> Why are we being hectored on Monday when the reports are not even due?
So as an experiment, Craig, here we are with the February report due. And
without prodding, as I did in January, check out the state of the podling
reports: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2009
Nothing for Cassandr
What about banning any releases until the report has been submitted? And if
necessary, closing off commit karma to make the point stick?
If the project is hibernating, those would effect it, but as Jukka
suggested, we would simply go through the process of suspending the project.
If the project i
> Provided that we get a Marvin like script for PPMC
I had asked Dave if he would work on that, but I don't know that anything
got finished. Anyone want to take a shot at it?
--- Noel
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Well, one sure way is to a formal release and get more
people to look at it.
On Jan 30, 2009, at 5:58 AM, Danny Angus wrote:
We've been using log4php during development work, taking the next step
on the road to production obviously depends upon the stability and
future of the project.
I'm reaso
In August 2008, it was discussed that XAP had been inactive for at least 4
months. In November 2008, we again saw issues with XAP and discussed
suspension. Having reached, now, February 2009, and still nothing with XAP,
I am raising this as a vote.
--- Noel
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I have put XAP's status to a vote. What others do people feel should be
considered? I have several in mind, but want to hear from the Mentors and
the Community as a whole.
--- Noel
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The last month has been fairly quite, with nothing currently requiring the
attention of the Board.
We voted to accept Pivot for Incubation. Pivot did not report this month,
but is still just getting started, and have not yet received all of their
infrastructure (https://issues.apache.org/jira/bro
+1. I see little chance of XAP being resurrected at this point.
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Martin Cooper
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> In August 2008, it was discussed that XAP had been inactive for at least 4
> months. In November 2008, we again saw issues with XAP and discussed
> suspe
Hi Noel,
On Feb 16, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Why are we being hectored on Monday when the reports are not even
due?
So as an experiment, Craig, here we are with the February report
due. And
without prodding, as I did in January, check out the state of the
podling
report
On 1/19/09, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Craig Russell wrote:
>
>> > To me it sounds that the Mentors are sleeping
>>> Totally agree, it is the mentors responsibility to make sure "their"
>>> podlings submit their reports on time.
>> Totally agree, it is the mentors responsibility to make sure "th
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Well, one sure way is to a formal release and get more
> people to look at it.
log4php would surely benefit of that. I watched this list for a while
now, and it looks like less activity. Somebody here told me that there
is no activity cause
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> I have put XAP's status to a vote. What others do people feel should be
> considered? I have several in mind, but want to hear from the Mentors and
> the Community as a whole.
I am long term apache user and have no benefit from projects
+1
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On Feb 16, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
On 1/19/09, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Craig Russell wrote:
To me it sounds that the Mentors are sleeping
Totally agree, it is the mentors responsibility to make sure
"their"
podlings submit their reports on time.
Totally agree,
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
> A practical problem [is] that reports are submitted right up to the
deadline
Yes, that's something I discussed last month, and again today with Craig.
> Asking the mentors to submit a confidential report (on private)
> whenever a report is missed would be reasonable
Craig.Russell wrote:
> Note that last month, I was not complaining about the messages, just
> the timing. Apologies if that wasn't clear.
I knew it had to do with the timing, and just that, Craig. No worries.
My point is that people are not getting the reports done on time. Sure
*some* do, such
+1
Craig
On Feb 16, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
In August 2008, it was discussed that XAP had been inactive for at
least 4
months. In November 2008, we again saw issues with XAP and discussed
suspension. Having reached, now, February 2009, and still nothing
with XAP,
I am
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> In August 2008, it was discussed that XAP had been inactive for at least 4
> months. In November 2008, we again saw issues with XAP and discussed
> suspension. Having reached, now, February 2009, and still nothing with
> XAP,
> I am rais
> if projects get suspended - what happens to the repository? Is
> it still public available somewhere?
Suspension would include:
-- disable the mailing lists (no need to moderate)
-- disable commit access (no need to review changes)
-- change the index of projects
The idea being to both f
Craig Russell wrote:
> Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
> > A practical problem with this approach is that reports are submitted
> > right up to the deadline
> I'm not sure I understand your point. The deadline is the Wednesday a
> week ahead of the board meeting.
I believe that Robert was pointing o
+1
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> In August 2008, it was discussed that XAP had been inactive for at least 4
> months. In November 2008, we again saw issues with XAP and discussed
> suspension. Having reached, now, February 2009, and still nothing with XAP,
> I am rai
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> In August 2008, it was discussed that XAP had been inactive for at least 4
> months. In November 2008, we again saw issues with XAP and discussed
> suspension. Having reached, now, February 2009, and still nothing with XAP,
> I am raising
+1
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Yoav Shapira wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>> In August 2008, it was discussed that XAP had been inactive for at least 4
>> months. In November 2008, we again saw issues with XAP and discussed
>> suspension. Having reached,
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> What about banning any releases until the report has been submitted? And if
> necessary, closing off commit karma to make the point stick?
To me, that sounds better than confidential reports. It's public,
transparent, affects the whole
Noel J. Bergman schrieb:
> In August 2008, it was discussed that XAP had been inactive for at least 4
> months. In November 2008, we again saw issues with XAP and discussed
> suspension. Having reached, now, February 2009, and still nothing with XAP,
> I am raising this as a vote.
>
> ---
+1.
Eddie
On Feb 16, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Henning Schmiedehausen
wrote:
Noel J. Bergman schrieb:
In August 2008, it was discussed that XAP had been inactive for at
least 4
months. In November 2008, we again saw issues with XAP and discussed
suspension. Having reached, now, February 2009,
+1
--kevan
On Feb 16, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
In August 2008, it was discussed that XAP had been inactive for at
least 4
months. In November 2008, we again saw issues with XAP and discussed
suspension. Having reached, now, February 2009, and still nothing
with XAP,
I am r
+1.
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
In August 2008, it was discussed that XAP had been inactive for at least 4
months. In November 2008, we again saw issues with XAP and discussed
suspension. Having reached, now, February 2009, and still nothing with XAP,
I am raising this as a vote.
--- Noel
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
In August 2008, it was discussed that XAP had been inactive for at least 4
months. In November 2008, we again saw issues with XAP and discussed
suspension. Having reached, now, February 2009, and still nothing with XAP,
I am raising this as a vote.
--- Noel
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> >
> > Provided that we get a Marvin like script for PPMC
>
> I had asked Dave if he would work on that, but I don't know that anything
> got finished. Anyone want to take a shot at it?
Upayavira suggested something useful in another thread.
I can do that - when i find th
David Crossley wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > I had asked Dave if he would work on [a Marvin-like script], but I don't
know that anything
> > got finished. Anyone want to take a shot at it?
> Upayavira suggested something useful in another thread.
> I can do that - when i find the time.
Than
On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:58 PM, David Crossley wrote:
If we keep relying on mentors, then we are not
training the podlings in the ASF way. We are actually
training them to leave it all up to someone else.
I believe that while a podling is getting organized (first three
months) it's unlikely th
On 2/17/09, Craig L Russell wrote:
>
> On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:58 PM, David Crossley wrote:
>
>>
>> If we keep relying on mentors, then we are not
>> training the podlings in the ASF way. We are actually
>> training them to leave it all up to someone else.
>>
> I believe that while a podling is gett
On 2/16/09, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>> if projects get suspended - what happens to the repository? Is
>> it still public available somewhere?
>
> Suspension would include:
>
> -- disable the mailing lists (no need to moderate)
> -- disable commit access (no need to review changes)
> -- change
On 2/16/09, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> In August 2008, it was discussed that XAP had been inactive for at least 4
> months. In November 2008, we again saw issues with XAP and discussed
> suspension. Having reached, now, February 2009, and still nothing with XAP,
> I am raising this as a vote.
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