Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-24 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 10:10:59AM -0400, peter royal wrote: > I have been talking with Dave Irving who is the principal developer > behind AsyncWeb, , an HTTP engine built > upon MINA , on > bringing the project to

Re: [VOTE] [policy] document cleanup (part 1)

2006-07-24 Thread Leo Simons
On Sun, Jul 23, 2006 at 10:12:46AM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > I'd also be in favor of switching these docs to CTR than RTC. =) -- justin IIRC we did that ages ago. I guess someone, somewhere, switched it back, and I missed it, as happens so often these days :) LSD --

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-24 Thread Carl Trieloff
Roy, This would be consistent "at least not within the software category" with the proposed name also, so what I am pointing out is just that we are consistent with the status-quo in Apache. Regards Carl. Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 6:39 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote: If you sea

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-24 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 7/24/06, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This would be consistent "at least not within the software category" with the proposed name also, so what I am pointing out is just that we are consistent with the status-quo in Apache. Roy explicitly pointed out that Blaze was a registered

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-24 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Carl Trieloff wrote: Roy, This would be consistent "at least not within the software category" with the proposed name also, so what I am pointing out is just that we are consistent with the status-quo in Apache. Carl, it's "the software category" of patents, not "this software category". T

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-24 Thread Carl Trieloff
Please could you post the links to the ones that concern you. I had read Roys comment to be that there they where not used in software in the related domain. I may have read more into the statement than I should have - if I did - sorry. If the measure is "use in software" then the following st

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-24 Thread Carl Trieloff
Thanks, see the other mail I just posted. Carl. William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Carl Trieloff wrote: Roy, This would be consistent "at least not within the software category" with the proposed name also, so what I am pointing out is just that we are consistent with the status-quo in Apache.

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-24 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Carl Trieloff wrote: ... > Here are some examples for Derby. Derby is a relational database implemented entirely in java, which entered the Apache Incubator in August 2004. With those points in mind 1) This looks like Cub Scout race management software and the most recent date on the web si

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-24 Thread Carl Trieloff
The synapse ones are clearly software though... At this point I am not trying to argue to use or non-use of a name. Just understand how does Apache deals with this. Maybe we should use Synapse as the comp project to understand as it is quite a recent project, and this link http://www.synaps

Re: [VOTE] [RESULTS] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

2006-07-24 Thread Adinarayana Sakala
This is great news. Thanks everybody. What is the next administrative step in the process? - Adi On 7/22/06, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, About 10 days has elapsed so I'm going to close the vote on CeltixFire and say it's been accepted by the PMC Incubator, the binding votes ar

Re: [VOTE] [RESULTS] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

2006-07-24 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 24 Jul 06, at 11:51 AM 24 Jul 06, Adinarayana Sakala wrote: This is great news. Thanks everybody. What is the next administrative step in the process? I'm getting the mailing lists setup and I will get a first version of the site going. Once the lists are up we can discuss bring the code

Re: [VOTE] [RESULTS] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

2006-07-24 Thread Adinarayana Sakala
Great. In the interim i will go over the committer list and get the paper work thing sorted out. Once the mailing list is setup we can probably start having these type of discussions over there. For the website, you mean Incubator project status website? http://incubator.apache.org/projects/tusca

Re: [Proposal] Blaze

2006-07-24 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
James Strachan wrote: > I guess its a murky area legally - making similar APIs using > documentation as a guide. e.g. its quite striking how many extremely > similar APIs are in .Net and Mono to the JDK. > > FWIW there's a current practice to get around Sun's bizarre licensing > on various Java/

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-24 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/24/06, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The synapse ones are clearly software though... At this point I am not trying to argue to use or non-use of a name. Just understand how does Apache deals with this. apache believes that continuous improvement is more important than consist

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-24 Thread Davanum Srinivas
I am missing something...Is there a product that they sell named Synapse? I can't find it. -- dims On 7/24/06, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The synapse ones are clearly software though... At this point I am not trying to argue to use or non-use of a name. Just understand how does A

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-24 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Carl, On Jul 24, 2006, at 10:40 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote: The synapse ones are clearly software though... At this point I am not trying to argue to use or non-use of a name. Just understand how does Apache deals with this. The way Apache "deals with this" is that you get advice from lo

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-24 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 7/24/06, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I had read Roys comment to be that there they where not used in software in the related domain. I may have read more into the statement than I I think you misunderstood Roy's comment. Let me re-paste his comment as I think you are confusin

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-24 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 24, 2006, at 10:40 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote: The synapse ones are clearly software though... At this point I am not trying to argue to use or non-use of a name. Just understand how does Apache deals with this. If a trademark appears to be infringed, the project and all of its releas