On 2/15/2011 5:33 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:54 PM, William A. Rowe Jr.
> wrote:
>> On 2/12/2011 10:57 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Daniel Shahaf
>>> wrote:
Phil Steitz wrote on Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 22:32:24 -0500:
> On 2/
On 02/15/2011 03:33 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
> I like it when people not on the committee take
> part in votes and I think we should encourage it. As Hen said in "were
> in the recruiting business" [1]. My pet peeve is people putting
> "binding" on their vote - it tells non-PMC-members "you're vo
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:54 PM, William A. Rowe Jr.
wrote:
> On 2/12/2011 10:57 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Daniel Shahaf
>> wrote:
>>> Phil Steitz wrote on Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 22:32:24 -0500:
On 2/5/11 4:16 PM, Scott O'Bryan wrote:
> Bertrand,
>>>
On 2/12/2011 10:57 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Daniel Shahaf
> wrote:
>> Phil Steitz wrote on Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 22:32:24 -0500:
>>> On 2/5/11 4:16 PM, Scott O'Bryan wrote:
Bertrand,
I agree. The good thing about a vibrant community is that the
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Phil Steitz wrote on Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 22:32:24 -0500:
>> On 2/5/11 4:16 PM, Scott O'Bryan wrote:
>> > Bertrand,
>> >
>> > I agree. The good thing about a vibrant community is that they
>> > generally enforce this. All I'm saying is thi
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> It's my understanding that all voting takes place during a 72 hour period.
> If that period ends on a weekend then it's customary to wait until Monday to
> complete.
>
> I don't see this documented on http://incubator.apache.org/guides/pp
Yes, I agree with that. In the example I used, things like master
poms which are infrastructure, or a minor site updates, or fixing
'moved' repositories which wouldn't let things build. Those were our
only real exceptions.
Most changes we give the 72 hours for because if it's deserving of a
rel
Phil Steitz wrote on Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 22:32:24 -0500:
> On 2/5/11 4:16 PM, Scott O'Bryan wrote:
> > Bertrand,
> >
> > I agree. The good thing about a vibrant community is that they
> > generally enforce this. All I'm saying is this shouldn't be a "must"
> > requirement, rather it should be a
On 2/5/11 4:16 PM, Scott O'Bryan wrote:
> Bertrand,
>
> I agree. The good thing about a vibrant community is that they
> generally enforce this. All I'm saying is this shouldn't be a "must"
> requirement, rather it should be a shall and we can let the individual
> communities work out what except
Bertrand,
I agree. The good thing about a vibrant community is that they
generally enforce this. All I'm saying is this shouldn't be a "must"
requirement, rather it should be a shall and we can let the individual
communities work out what exceptions they allow.
On Feb 5, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Bertr
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Scott O'Bryan wrote:
> ...I think it's important to keep things flexible because, as much as we
> would like everything to fit the same rules, some communities need to
> be a bit more dynamic and we need to trust the project PMC's and
> members to do what's best for
Makes sense to me. The voting document itself be updated I guess.
Regards,
Alan
On Feb 5, 2011, at 5:56 AM, Scott O'Bryan wrote:
> Yeah I agree with this. At MyFaces we typically way the 72 hours, but
> for security things or master pom updates which prevent a built, we
> often adopt "lazy co
Yeah I agree with this. At MyFaces we typically way the 72 hours, but
for security things or master pom updates which prevent a built, we
often adopt "lazy consensus" type rule and fudge the timeframe with
enough community votes.
I think it's important to keep things flexible because, as much as
On 02/04/2011 10:52 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
Note the wording: "should".
Sometimes 72 hours is just too long, especially
for security related releases. In that (or any other
special) case RM can call for a shorter, or even
longer window.
Regard
Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 01:52:43PM -0800, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>
> On Feb 4, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 15:11, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> >> It's my understanding that all voting takes place during a 72 hour period.
> >> If that period ends on a weekend then
On Feb 4, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 15:11, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>> It's my understanding that all voting takes place during a 72 hour period.
>> If that period ends on a weekend then it's customary to wait until Monday to
>> complete.
>
> I've always con
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 15:11, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> It's my understanding that all voting takes place during a 72 hour period.
> If that period ends on a weekend then it's customary to wait until Monday to
> complete.
I've always considered weekends fair game. In fact, that may be when
some
It's my understanding that all voting takes place during a 72 hour period. If
that period ends on a weekend then it's customary to wait until Monday to
complete.
I don't see this documented on http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html.
We may also need to explain that all correspondence on
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