Re: [Vote] accept UIMA as a podling - #2

2006-10-04 Thread Leo Simons
On Sep 27, 2006, at 1:17 AM, Ian Holsman wrote: issues addressed in this release: 1. updated proposal included 2. The first paragraph explains it to a layperson 3. OASIS issue addressed Thanks Ian. +1, Leo [ ] +1 Accept UIMA as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject this pr

Re: [Vote] accept UIMA as a podling - #2

2006-10-03 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
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Re: [Vote] accept UIMA as a podling - #2

2006-10-01 Thread Sam Ruby
[X] +1 Accept UIMA as an Incubator podling (binding) - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Vote] accept UIMA as a podling - #2

2006-09-28 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 9/27/06, Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2. The first paragraph explains it to a layperson thanks - much better. but i don't see at all in terms of explaining it to laypersons. a project that cannot explain itself clearly in a paragraph doesn't understand itself. [X] +1 Accept U

Re: [Vote] accept UIMA as a podling - #2

2006-09-28 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 9/26/06, Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [X] +1 Accept UIMA as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason: As before. -- justin

RE: [Vote] accept UIMA as a podling - #2

2006-09-27 Thread Hervé Azoulay
[X] +1 Accept UIMA as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason: +1 (non binding) We've made the move to the framework UIMA 6 months ago to be the middleware of our new product version. This decision has been made after reading the very comple

Re: [Vote] accept UIMA as a podling - #2

2006-09-27 Thread Eric Nyberg
[X] +1 Accept UIMA as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason: -ehn Ian Holsman wrote: issues addressed in this release: 1. updated proposal included 2. The first paragraph explains it to a layperson 3. OASIS issue addressed [ ] +1 Accept

Re: [Vote] accept UIMA as a podling - #2

2006-09-27 Thread Erik Hatcher
+1 On Sep 26, 2006, at 7:17 PM, Ian Holsman wrote: issues addressed in this release: 1. updated proposal included 2. The first paragraph explains it to a layperson 3. OASIS issue addressed [ ] +1 Accept UIMA as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the fol

Re: [Vote] accept UIMA as a podling - #2

2006-09-26 Thread Yonik Seeley
On 9/26/06, Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [X] +1 Accept UIMA as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason: +1 (non binding) -Yonik - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [Vote] accept UIMA as a podling - #2

2006-09-26 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
[X] +1 Accept UIMA as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason: Otis - Original Message From: Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 7:17:37 PM Subject: [Vote] accept UIMA as a

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-21 Thread Leo Simons
On Sep 19, 2006, at 5:32 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 9/19/06, Thilo Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: you're right. Others have noted that our opening paragraphs are not very clear. We did however follow up with more explanation that satisfied others on the list. Are you saying that these

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-20 Thread Marshall Schor
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: My only condition for acceptance is that someone explain UIMA to me over beer at AC. =) Good luck! -- justin I'm planning on attending AC (Wednesday thru Friday), and would love to explain UIMA to all that are interested! -- Marshall Schor ---

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-20 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 9/18/06, Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: as per Garrett's suggestion. > [X] +1 Accept UIMA as an Incubator podling > [ ] 0 Don't care > [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason: My only condition for acceptance is that someone explain UIMA to me over beer at AC. =) Goo

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-20 Thread Eric Nyberg
Greetings, I understand from the message traffic that there are some concerns about the current state of the UIMA proposal, but I'd like to offer my support (and my hope that the issues with the proposal are resolved). Carnegie Mellon has been building and deploying text analysis programs us

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-20 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 9/19/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 02:07:33PM -0400, Garrett Rooney wrote: > Of course, the fact that you had to be explicitly asked to explain > what the project does in the mailing list discussion doesn't bode well > in and of itself. My objection

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-20 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 9/20/06, Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The only mistake here is the initial proposal might have assumed that people had a understanding of the topic area. this is why in the draft guide http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html splitting the initial proposal into several s

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-19 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
- Original Message From: Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 7:09:34 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling On 9/19/06, Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally I look at some of the enterpris

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-19 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 9/19/06, Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Personally I look at some of the enterprise java proposals and have no clue about them either as i don't track the SOA/WS specs that closely. Yes, and that's a BAD thing. If this proposal was for some j2ee/WS/SOA related monstrosity with 98 d

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-19 Thread Ian Holsman
On 20/09/2006, at 6:52 AM, Garrett Rooney wrote: On 9/19/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 02:07:33PM -0400, Garrett Rooney wrote: > Of course, the fact that you had to be explicitly asked to explain > what the project does in the mailing list discussion

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-19 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 9/19/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 02:07:33PM -0400, Garrett Rooney wrote: > Of course, the fact that you had to be explicitly asked to explain > what the project does in the mailing list discussion doesn't bode well > in and of itself. My objection

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-19 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 02:07:33PM -0400, Garrett Rooney wrote: > Of course, the fact that you had to be explicitly asked to explain > what the project does in the mailing list discussion doesn't bode well > in and of itself. My objection isn't just "your proposal is unclear", > it's also in part

RE: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-19 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Marshall Schor wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > The notification clause mentioned in the FAQ has been considered an issue > > for the ASF, as it passes that obligation to downstream consumers of our > > code. Does that apply to UIMA? > I looked in the FAQ http://www.oasis-open.org/who/ipr/ipr_

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-19 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 9/19/06, Thilo Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Garrett Rooney wrote: > I'm sorry, but I have to vote -1 based on my new policy of rejecting > any potential podling that can't explain what it is that they do > within the first paragraph of the proposal. I'm a fairly intelligent > person, but

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-19 Thread Marshall Schor
Noel J. Bergman wrote: The notification clause mentioned in the FAQ has been considered an issue for the ASF, as it passes that obligation to downstream consumers of our code. Does that apply to UIMA? I looked in the FAQ http://www.oasis-open.org/who/ipr/ipr_faq.php but didn't see the "no

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-19 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 9/19/06, Thilo Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: you're right. Others have noted that our opening paragraphs are not very clear. We did however follow up with more explanation that satisfied others on the list. Are you saying that these further explanations are still not clear, or that those

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-19 Thread Thilo Goetz
Garrett Rooney wrote: I'm sorry, but I have to vote -1 based on my new policy of rejecting any potential podling that can't explain what it is that they do within the first paragraph of the proposal. I'm a fairly intelligent person, but honestly I have no clue what "an architecture and software

RE: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-19 Thread Noel J. Bergman
David Ferrucci wrote: > we specified that [UIMA] be set up under the "RF on Limited Terms" > mode of the OASIS IP Policy. RF on Limited Terms specifies the exact Royalty Free licensing terms and conditions that may be included in a patent holder's license and that must be granted upon reque

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-19 Thread David Ferrucci
Hi, When we requested OASIS to set up a Technical Committee chartered to develop a platform-independent specification for text and multi-modal analysis, we specified that it be set up under the "RF on Limited Terms" mode of the OASIS IP Policy. "RF" means Royalty Free, and the Limited Terms

[doc] include IP/standards question in the proposal template [WAS Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling]

2006-09-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 9/19/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The proposal can be found in the Incubator wiki here: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/UIMA Sorry, it doesn't work that way. You want to request a vote, you include the proposal in the e-mail. OK, I'll admit, I've seen the follow up e-

RE: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> The proposal can be found in the Incubator wiki here: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/UIMA Sorry, it doesn't work that way. You want to request a vote, you include the proposal in the e-mail. OK, I'll admit, I've seen the follow up e-mail where you did post the proposal in response to Garre

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-18 Thread Ian Holsman
t is that UIMA really does in emails, but yes, making sure it's answered in the proposal (I can't connect to wiki.apache.org at the moment to see the final proposal for myself). Otis - Original Message From: Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: general@incubator.

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-18 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
From: Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:11:13 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling On 9/18/06, Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [ ] +1 Accept UIMA as an Incubator podling > [ ] 0 Don

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-18 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 9/18/06, Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [ ] +1 Accept UIMA as an Incubator podling [ ] 0 Don't care [X] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason: I'm sorry, but I have to vote -1 based on my new policy of rejecting any potential podling that can't explain what it is that th

RE: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-18 Thread Hervé Azoulay
This one works much better http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/UimaProposal Hervé -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Garrett Rooney Sent: lundi 18 septembre 2006 22:48 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a

Re: [VOTE] accept UIMA as a podling

2006-09-18 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 9/18/06, Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, There has been some discussion around the UIMA proposal, we feel that all the issues forwarded have been addressed, and we would now like to officially propose UIMA to the Incubator for consideration. The proposal can be found in the Incub