Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-19 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On 7/18/05, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Noel, > Cliff is driving the pmc selection/vp recommendation process. > > Cliff, > Could you please respond? Sure -- I'll follow up my earlier thread on the beehive ppmc list re: board resolution and VP candidate. Cliff > > thanks, > di

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-18 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Noel, Cliff is driving the pmc selection/vp recommendation process. Cliff, Could you please respond? thanks, dims On 7/18/05, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dims, > > It appears that there are sufficient votes and no objections. Please > prepare a request to be submitted to the

RE: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Dims, It appears that there are sufficient votes and no objections. Please prepare a request to be submitted to the Board meeting, which will be next week. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For addit

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-16 Thread Roy T. Fielding
I believe Beehive is ready to function as a standalone PMC. Please see the latest status at: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/beehive.html +1 Roy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-15 Thread Simon Kitching
On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 05:01 -0700, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > > Discussions regarding the Web Security situation on legal-discuss have > > revealed that IBM have provided a "patent license" to Apache for this > > particular project. However, in the opinions of at least one lawyer, > > any > > deriva

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-15 Thread Eddie O'Neil
And, I'm updating the web page now. Kenneth Tam wrote: I'll follow up separately with Cliff to see whether a CLA ever actually made it to Apache, but in any case he has been inactive since day 1 and should be removed. On 7/15/05, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 12, 2005

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-15 Thread Kenneth Tam
I'll follow up separately with Cliff to see whether a CLA ever actually made it to Apache, but in any case he has been inactive since day 1 and should be removed. On 7/15/05, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 12, 2005, at 2:38 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > > Dear Incubator PMC

Re: WS-Security / TSIK (Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP)

2005-07-15 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:51 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Great!!! So we can make a release of WSS4J and get the code from TSIK. Right? AFAIK, yes. +1 from me. Roy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: WS-Security / TSIK (Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP)

2005-07-15 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Great!!! So we can make a release of WSS4J and get the code from TSIK. Right? -- dims On 7/15/05, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:06 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > > All public knowledge about about WS-Security are just "claims"[1]. No > > one has given us OR

Re: WS-Security / TSIK (Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP)

2005-07-15 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:06 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: All public knowledge about about WS-Security are just "claims"[1]. No one has given us OR made any public statement of specific patents (from BM/MSFT/Versign) that are applicable to WS-Security. [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/wss/

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-15 Thread Davanum Srinivas
This is news to me follow up question on legal-discuss@ Let's please take this conversation there where it belongs. -- dims On 7/15/05, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > blanket reciprocal patent license -- Davanum Srinivas -http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/

WS-Security / TSIK (Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP)

2005-07-15 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Simon, This is not the right forum, we should move this to legal-discuss. i will answer here since we are still treating TSIK under incubation. All public knowledge about about WS-Security are just "claims"[1]. No one has given us OR made any public statement of specific patents (from BM/MSFT/Ver

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-15 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 15, 2005, at 4:03 AM, Simon Kitching wrote: I am concerned about: * Situations like the Web Security project, where the OASIS specification being implemented by Apache explicitly states that there are patents claimed over the specification. Then go look at the source of the specificatio

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-15 Thread Simon Kitching
On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 03:19 -0700, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > On Jul 14, 2005, at 3:51 PM, Simon Kitching wrote: > > Could someone please provide information on any patents known to apply > > to this project? > > No, damnit. That is not how patents work! If we are notified of a > patent owned by so

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-15 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 12, 2005, at 2:38 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Dear Incubator PMC, I believe Beehive is ready to function as a standalone PMC. Please see the latest status at: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/beehive.html What's the deal with the one committer without a CLA? Either his CLA and acc

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-15 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 14, 2005, at 3:51 PM, Simon Kitching wrote: Could someone please provide information on any patents known to apply to this project? No, damnit. That is not how patents work! If we are notified of a patent owned by some entity that has not signed a CLA and contributed the code, then and

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-14 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On Jul 14, 2005, at 4:49 PM, Simon Kitching wrote: Yes the current discussion on legal-discuss is wrt wss4j, but the question for beehive was more general: are there any patents that have been explicitly granted for the use of Beehive? This is not how the question should be asked. The questio

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-14 Thread Simon Kitching
Yes the current discussion on legal-discuss is wrt wss4j, but the question for beehive was more general: are there any patents that have been explicitly granted for the use of Beehive? For example, have BEA issued any "licenses" to Apache with respect to stuff that Beehive implements? Regards, Si

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-14 Thread Kenneth Tam
Beehive doesn't currently have any implementations of the WS-* standards, including WS-Security -- the intent was to at some point look to other Apache projects that were implementing those standards (I don't subscribe to legal-discuss, but I presume the discussion in question is wrt WSS4J?). On 7

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-14 Thread Simon Kitching
> On 7/12/05, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Incubator PMC, > > > > I believe Beehive is ready to function as a standalone PMC. Please > see > > the latest status at: > > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/beehive.html Could someone please provide information on any

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-14 Thread Cliff Schmidt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/12/05, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Incubator PMC, > > I believe Beehive is ready to function as a standalone PMC. Please see > the latest status at: > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/beehive.html +1 - - The Beehiv

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-14 Thread Rich Feit
Didn't mean to fill everyone's inbox with this message, although I *am* excited for Beehive to be a fully-integrated part of the Apache community. Apologies for that spam (and this spam). Rich Rich Feit wrote: Thank you, Craig! We're really looking forward to being part of the wider Apache

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-14 Thread Rich Feit
Thank you, Craig! We're really looking forward to being part of the wider Apache community. At some point I'd love for us to figure out how page flows and Shale constructs can play nicely with each other. Rich Craig McClanahan wrote: +1 (Incubator Project Mentor) The Beehive folks have c

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-14 Thread Craig McClanahan
+1 (Incubator Project Mentor) The Beehive folks have clearly shown they understand "the Apache Way", and they actually behave that way too. All the necessary i's have been dotted and the t's have been crossed, and this will be a great Apache TLP. Craig McClanahan On 7/12/05, Davanum Srinivas <

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-13 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Yeah! Yeah! would you guys please vote instead of nit-picking? :) -- dims On 7/13/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's really important distinction ;) > > On Jul 13, 2005, at 7:14 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > > Sorry. > > > > On 7/12/05, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
It's really important distinction ;) On Jul 13, 2005, at 7:14 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Sorry. On 7/12/05, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wednesday 13 July 2005 05:38, Davanum Srinivas wrote: PS: once we get this VOTE done, cliff/me will work with the ppmc on forming the PM

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-13 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Sorry. On 7/12/05, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 13 July 2005 05:38, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > PS: once we get this VOTE done, cliff/me will work with the ppmc on > > forming the PMC and selecting the VP. > > Tiny correction. VP is not selected, it is recommended to

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP

2005-07-12 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 13 July 2005 05:38, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > PS: once we get this VOTE done, cliff/me will work with the ppmc on > forming the PMC and selecting the VP. Tiny correction. VP is not selected, it is recommended to the Board. Cheers Niclas --