On Jul 14, 2005, at 4:49 PM, Simon Kitching wrote:
Yes the current discussion on legal-discuss is wrt wss4j, but the
question for beehive was more general: are there any patents that have
been explicitly granted for the use of Beehive?
This is not how the question should be asked. The question is "Is
anyone aware (most particularly the Beehive PPMC / Incubator PMC) of
some patent holder claiming that Beehive may infringe on their
patent?". As far as I know, the answer is "definitely not". We
don't go out looking to see what patents some part of our projects
could potentially be violating.
For example, have BEA
issued any "licenses" to Apache with respect to stuff that Beehive
implements?
BEA signed a corporate CLA (in addition to the individual CLAs signed
by the BEA employees working on the project). In that CLA, the
contributor agrees to:
"grant to the Foundation and to
recipients of software distributed by the Foundation a perpetual,
worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable
(except as stated in this section) patent license to make, have
made, use, offer to sell, sell, import, and otherwise transfer the
Work, where such license applies only to those patent claims
licensable by You that are necessarily infringed by Your
Contribution(s) alone or by combination of Your Contribution(s)
with the Work to which such Contribution(s) was submitted."
So, we aren't currently worried about any contributor owning patents
that their contributions might infringe upon. We're covered there.
The issue with the wsss4j stuff was that the specification authors
made it very clear that they held essential patents to the
implementation of the specification...and some of these parties were
not the authors of the contributed code to Apache (and did not sign a
CLA or software grant to cover it).
Cliff
Regards,
Simon
On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 16:32 -0700, Kenneth Tam wrote:
Beehive doesn't currently have any implementations of the WS-*
standards, including WS-Security -- the intent was to at some point
look to other Apache projects that were implementing those standards
(I don't subscribe to legal-discuss, but I presume the discussion in
question is wrt WSS4J?).
On 7/14/05, Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 7/12/05, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dear Incubator PMC,
I believe Beehive is ready to function as a standalone PMC. Please
see
the latest status at:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/beehive.html
Could someone please provide information on any patents known to
apply
to this project?
There has been discussion on legal-discuss@apache.org regarding the
situation for WS-Security where IBM has granted patent license
for the
Apache project but not to anyone who modifies the code (modifiers
of the
code must apply for a patent license separately).
The "legal issues" section of the beehive status page does not
address
patent issues. It would be good to confirm that this situation
does not
apply to Beehive.
Sorry if this has already been discussed...
Thanks,
Simon
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