RE: [RT] Learning from the facts ( Re: Undermining the Incubator )

2004-01-23 Thread David Remy
> Perhaps a practical solution here is to strongly encourage mature > projects to remain entirely outside the Apache infrastructure during > this period. That allows them to continue functioning as a mature > project, and not in any way be hindered by the move until such time as > there is a recogn

RE: [RT] Learning from the facts ( Re: Undermining the Incubator )

2004-01-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Nicola Ken wrote: > MHO is that we do not require that a project be "under" the Incubator > urls and resources. This was said to ensure that they don't misuse the > "regular" Apache brand, but if it remains "outside" of Apache during > Incubation, the problem is equally solved. Not for developmen

Re: [RT] Learning from the facts ( Re: Undermining the Incubator )

2004-01-14 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:28:42 -0500 Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > > I'm still completely unclear what objection Andy is raising. > being completely serious, i think andy is not being entirely > rational on the subject. he is/was violently opposed to geronimo, Okay. This sentence really makes se

Re: [RT] Learning from the facts ( Re: Undermining the Incubator )

2004-01-14 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Rich Bowen wrote: > > I'm still completely unclear what objection Andy is raising. being completely serious, i think andy is not being entirely rational on the subject. he is/was violently opposed to geronimo, apparently has a deep and abiding dislike of anything whatsoever that he considers to

Re: [RT] Learning from the facts ( Re: Undermining the Incubator )

2004-01-14 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 08:20:26 -0500 (EST) Rich Bowen wrote: > When a skilled worker goes to work for a new company, they go through a > period of probation to ensure that they fit in the new company. This > does not question their skills, it merely ensures that the person fits > into the new compan

Re: [RT] Learning from the facts ( Re: Undermining the Incubator )

2004-01-14 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Rich Bowen wrote: ... Perhaps a practical solution here is to strongly encourage mature projects to remain entirely outside the Apache infrastructure during this period. That allows them to continue functioning as a mature project, and not in any way be hindered by the move until such time as there

Re: [RT] Learning from the facts ( Re: Undermining the Incubator )

2004-01-14 Thread Rich Bowen
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > >* Hurts already healthy communities by putting them back into an alphaish > >state. > ... > > If I had a mature project ready for production which had been so for > > a number of years and then I said "I want to be part of Apache" You'd > > pu