Re: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-22 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> Yes. It's no good me or any one person promising to be here in 5 years > time. There has to be a pool of users sufficiently interested and > empowered to be able to become administrators. > 5 years ago, there probably wasn't bugzilla... If a particular community decides to use it, then someon

Re: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-22 Thread Paul Hammant
Jeff, I think the 'empowered' part is where Bugzilla falls down. I don't know about Scarab, but JIRA administration is mostly done through the web interface. Project-specific admins can be specified, who are allowed to create new versions/components for their project. Don't forget that the im

Re: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-22 Thread James Strachan
On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 06:36 pm, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I think it would be helpful to have a discussion and consensus on which issue tracking tool should be adopted, and why, but it ought to be ASF-wide. I don't believe that it makes sense for us to use multiple tools in the same spac

Re: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-22 Thread Jeff Turner
(moving to infrastructure@, where this is more relevant. Thread at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10614699951&r=1&w=2) On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 01:36:35PM -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Jeff, > > Jeff Turner wrote: ... > > I volunteer :) Hacking JIRA is my day job. > > I think it would be

RE: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-22 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Quoting "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > we have you and Henri Yandell volunteering to help admin the tool. For > bugzilla, we've really got no one who seems devoted to it (or they just stay > quiet). If that turns out to be a problem, I'd volunteer. I am an emerited committer of perl.ap

RE: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-21 Thread Noel J. Bergman
James, > I'm happy either way really. I'm quite happy with the status quo but if > folks wanna move it to Apache infrastructure instead I'm a firm +1 also. Remember, though, the original question posed by Brian on this thread: is the status quo (having projects go off the infrastructure for these

RE: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-21 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Jeff, Jeff Turner wrote: > James Strachan wrote: > > Though there's no reason, given some hardware and a volunteer, why we > > couldn't install JIRA at Apache. > [if] infrastructure peeps prefer to keep bugtrackers on ASF hardware Well, that was the question being raised. Should those tools be

Re: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-21 Thread James Strachan
On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 01:46 pm, Jeff Turner wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 07:17:56AM +0100, James Strachan wrote: On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 10:23 pm, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I've asked that question before, and been told that CVS is mandatory, the official web site must be on

Re: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-21 Thread bob mcwhirter
> I don't really see the need though. Bob is doing a fine job hosting JIRA > on werken.com. I'm sure that backups to ASF hardware could be arranged > if that were really an issue. Thanks. We do backup offsite on a nightly basis, also. > But if a) Bob would like to offload the job, b) infrastru

Re: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-21 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:46:24 +1000 Jeff Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But if a) Bob would like to offload the job, b) infrastructure peeps > prefer to keep bugtrackers on ASF hardware, then if someone can toss > me a nagoya account I'll set up a pilot JIRA installation. Ditto: Also, pleas

Re: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-21 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Jeff Turner wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 07:17:56AM +0100, James Strachan wrote: > > > > Though there's no reason, given some hardware and a volunteer, why we > > couldn't install JIRA at Apache. > > I volunteer :) Hacking JIRA is my day job. I'm happy to help. While n

JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-21 Thread Jeff Turner
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 07:17:56AM +0100, James Strachan wrote: > On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 10:23 pm, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > >I've asked that question before, and been told that CVS is mandatory, > >the official web site must be on the ASF infrastructure, but that > >other tools might no

Re: policy question

2003-08-21 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
>bugzilla seems to be the one tool that is driving projects to use >foreign tools [...] One reason might be that this problem with the installation on nagoya is not fixed - which could be done by upgrading to a current version of Bugzilla: query.cgi javascript is as slow as molasses http:

RE: policy question

2003-08-21 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Though there's no reason, given some hardware and a volunteer, why we > couldn't install JIRA at Apache. As I said: John Mcnally has said that he'll install the new version of Scarab. There is also Jira, which I am told we could install. Either way, bugzilla seems to be the one tool t

Re: policy question

2003-08-20 Thread Steven Noels
James Strachan wrote: Though there's no reason, given some hardware and a volunteer, why we couldn't install JIRA at Apache. +1 -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp:

Re: policy question

2003-08-20 Thread James Strachan
On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 10:23 pm, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I've asked that question before, and been told that CVS is mandatory, the official web site must be on the ASF infrastructure, but that other tools might not be mandatory. Personally, I'm not entirely comfortable with more and m

RE: policy question

2003-08-20 Thread Noel J. Bergman
I've asked that question before, and been told that CVS is mandatory, the official web site must be on the ASF infrastructure, but that other tools might not be mandatory. Personally, I'm not entirely comfortable with more and more projects going to werken/codehaus to use jira, but I can't quite p