On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 12:44, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > > Had that done the night you were asking on infrastructure
> > > that we leave Maven on codehaus because you didn't want to
> > > move at the time.
>
> > Because no one gave me a heads up until after the fact which annoyed me
> > greatly.
>
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I only say at the sheer frustration of watching it take an eon to get a
Wiki setup and JIRA.
On top of all the work that Jason Dillon did, Leo Simon worked all night
tonight on code changes to MoinMoin. It appears he's finished. The
Geronino and General Wikis need updating
> > Had that done the night you were asking on infrastructure
> > that we leave Maven on codehaus because you didn't want to
> > move at the time.
> Because no one gave me a heads up until after the fact which annoyed me
> greatly.
After what fact? I didn't realize that you needed to be consulte
On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 00:01, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > > Migration is not built into Jira. The XML export is for backup, not
> > > migration. I hacked a migration of the database, but we ran into
> > > some problems. Jeff, who works for Atlassian, asked if he could
> > > take over the migration
Leo Simons wrote:
> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> My personal example was once trying to get Scarab running on
>> Nagoya and not being able to find Pier for a week. I was all
>> ready and raring to go and was stopped dead in my tracks.
>
> Ah...I get it now...I've had moments like that (for example, want
Jason van Zyl wrote:
what exactly do you doubt?
That somewhere between getting access and now, in your moment of fire of
trying to get something done you were stopped in your tracks because you
were probably waiting on something else to happen first. I should have
explained that better. My pe
> > Migration is not built into Jira. The XML export is for backup, not
> > migration. I hacked a migration of the database, but we ran into
> > some problems. Jeff, who works for Atlassian, asked if he could
> > take over the migration so that they could debug it. So we're waiting
> > while Je
> > Infrastructure isn't standing in the way of Jira. Infrastructure wants
to
> > USE Jira.
> So why don't we start right now. I can setup a project on the codehaus
> box and it can get migrated with the rest of the stuff.
Ask on infrastructure, but I think that people are willing to wait. What
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 21:34, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > I'm just trying to draw a constrast between the way things used to be
> > done here, how Bob and I do things at Codehaus and the atmosphere that
> > is now here where doing anything seems to be a long drawn out, protacted
> > flurry of tome-li
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 21:34, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Jason van Zyl wrote:
> > Leo Simons wrote:
> > > I guess most of the same applies to Jira. We were waiting for a week or
> > > two for Noel and Serge to get things in place, now we're waiting for a
> > > week or two more for Jeff to finish somet
> I'm just trying to draw a constrast between the way things used to be
> done here, how Bob and I do things at Codehaus and the atmosphere that
> is now here where doing anything seems to be a long drawn out, protacted
> flurry of tome-like essays between committees.
Leo and Jason were given apsi
Jason van Zyl wrote:
> Leo Simons wrote:
> > I guess most of the same applies to Jira. We were waiting for a week or
> > two for Noel and Serge to get things in place, now we're waiting for a
> > week or two more for Jeff to finish something I can't remember. IMV,
> > it has got little to do with c
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 15:06, Leo Simons wrote:
> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 11:32, Leo Simons wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Jason volunteered, I volunteered, we were given access easily enough,
> >>proposals were accepted easily enough, and then it just took weeks for
> >>us to get thi
Jason van Zyl wrote:
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 11:32, Leo Simons wrote:
Jason volunteered, I volunteered, we were given access easily enough,
proposals were accepted easily enough, and then it just took weeks for
us to get things in shape. That's got little to do with process or
committees, but mor
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 11:32, Leo Simons wrote:
> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
> >I only say at the sheer frustration of watching it take an eon to get a
> >Wiki setup and JIRA.
> >
> maybe that's because you're watching :D
>
> seriously...some food for thought perhaps...
>
> the wiki is the first bit
Jason van Zyl wrote:
I only say at the sheer frustration of watching it take an eon to get a
Wiki setup and JIRA.
maybe that's because you're watching :D
seriously...some food for thought perhaps...
the wiki is the first bit of ASF infrastructure I'm getting more than
passively involved in.
Jaso
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 03:35, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > I only say at the sheer frustration of watching it take an eon to get a
> > Wiki setup and JIRA.
>
> On top of all the work that Jason Dillon did, Leo Simon worked all night
> tonight on code changes to MoinMoin. It appears he's finished.
What wiki's need to be created? I can create, but right now do not
have time to migrate data from the usemod wiki.
If ya just want a vanilla wiki though, that is simple.
--jason
On Nov 25, 2003, at 12:35 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I only say at the sheer frustration of watching it take an eon
> I only say at the sheer frustration of watching it take an eon to get a
> Wiki setup and JIRA.
On top of all the work that Jason Dillon did, Leo Simon worked all night
tonight on code changes to MoinMoin. It appears he's finished. The
Geronino and General Wikis need updating (the code), but th
Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 23:39, B. W. Fitzpatrick wrote:
>
> > > Or if it is an absolute requirement that we have the boxes then why
> > > doesn't each member pitch in a 100 bucks and we'll buy some machines
> > > instead of waiting for the tooth fairy to
On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 23:39, B. W. Fitzpatrick wrote:
> > Or if it is an absolute requirement that we have the boxes then why
> > doesn't each member pitch in a 100 bucks and we'll buy some machines
> > instead of waiting for the tooth fairy to drop them in our lap. I'll
> > donate a 100 bucks.
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> "Roy T. Fielding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 25/11/2003 11:22:49 AM:
> > > Why do we need grand site publications schemes? Geronimo is using
> > > Maven and it's trivial to site:deploy.
> >
> > Umm, it took three weeks to find someone capable of running site:deploy
> >
Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 19:51, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>
> > Cc'ing Stefano. I believe that part of it is happening in lenya land, but
> > it terms of a build server, obviously it will need to be build tool agnosti
> c
> > so that maven, anakia, and other
On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 19:51, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Cc'ing Stefano. I believe that part of it is happening in lenya land, but
> it terms of a build server, obviously it will need to be build tool agnostic
> so that maven, anakia, and other tools can be be equally well used to deploy
> sites. T
"Roy T. Fielding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 25/11/2003 11:22:49 AM:
> > Why do we need grand site publications schemes? Geronimo is using
Maven
> > and it's trivial to site:deploy.
>
> Umm, it took three weeks to find someone capable of running site:deploy
> for Geronimo. I think I was the t
Why do we need grand site publications schemes? Geronimo is using Maven
and it's trivial to site:deploy.
Umm, it took three weeks to find someone capable of running site:deploy
for Geronimo. I think I was the third person who tried (and failed).
I think it would be better to build from CVS, but fo
> > But this really is an infrastructure issue, since that is from where the
> > request comes. There are people, like Stefano, working to change the
> > site publication system. I'm sure that your participation would be
> > welcomed.
> Where is this 'work' happening?
> As someone vehemently op
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 25/11/2003 10:30:16 AM:
> > Why are sites being forced to check in generated sites?
>
> Because that is what infrastructure has asked. The rest of your points
are
> all perfectly valid. My best understanding is summarized here:
>
>
>
http://nag
On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 19:11, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 18:30, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > > Why are sites being forced to check in generated sites?
> >
> > Because that is what infrastructure has asked. The rest of your points are
> > all perfectly valid. My best understanding
On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 18:30, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > Why are sites being forced to check in generated sites?
>
> Because that is what infrastructure has asked. The rest of your points are
> all perfectly valid. My best understanding is summarized here:
>
>
> http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrow
On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 18:25, Martin Cooper wrote:
> "Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Howdy,
> >
> > Why are sites being forced to check in generated sites?
>
> Because it's currently required. See:
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-common
> Why are sites being forced to check in generated sites?
Because that is what infrastructure has asked. The rest of your points are
all perfectly valid. My best understanding is summarized here:
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
pache.org&msgNo=5207
But this really is an i
"Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Howdy,
>
> Why are sites being forced to check in generated sites?
Because it's currently required. See:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-commons-dev&m=106917796130227&w=2
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