RE: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-27 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> just to be sure to understand your opinion about this vote: are you > still contrary to approve the graduation of OFBiz Nope, I'm good. :-) --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional command

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-27 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Hi Noel, just to be sure to understand your opinion about this vote: are you still contrary to approve the graduation of OFBiz or the modifications we did to the proposal (based on your feedback) for the Board are enough to change your vote? Thanks for your help, Jacopo (one of the OFBiz'

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-22 Thread David E Jones
On Nov 22, 2006, at 8:06 AM, Yoav Shapira wrote: Hi, I'm guessing we'll close this vote next Monday, after the long holiday weekend? Because activity has slowed on this vote I was thinking of announcing the result today, but there is no hurry so Monday is fine. -David On 11/20/06, Noe

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-22 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, I'm guessing we'll close this vote next Monday, after the long holiday weekend? Yoav On 11/20/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: > Apache OFBiz - The Open For Business Project > (anyone see any issues with that?) Not me. As noted, my concern was r

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-21 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 11/20/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: or perhaps not: even if the formal name is Apache OFBiz, i suppose that the community could brand itself as 'Apache OFBiz - The Open For Business Project' (anyone see any issues with that?) Let the community decide, IMO. If they wa

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-21 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 11/20/06, David E Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Nov 20, 2006, at 1:21 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > My feedback (YMMV): > >> to be known as the "The Apache Open For Business Project" >> (also known as "Apache OFBiz") > > I suppose that the Board can make a determination, but I think tha

RE: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-21 Thread Noel J. Bergman
My feedback (YMMV): > to be known as the "The Apache Open For Business Project" > (also known as "Apache OFBiz") I suppose that the Board can make a determination, but I think that Apache OFBiz is OK, whereas "The Apache Open For Business Project" might be confusing, e.g., would that be confused

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-21 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 from me. On 11/20/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/20/06, David E Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 14, 2006, at 7:15 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > > At this time you have, or will have, the required number of votes. > > We just > > need to see the Board r

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-21 Thread David E Jones
On Nov 14, 2006, at 7:15 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: At this time you have, or will have, the required number of votes. We just need to see the Board resolution. I think we've finally settled on everything for the board resolution (see below). We appreciate everyone's patience on this and

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-15 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 11/15/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David E Jones wrote: > If I understand correctly what you are saying there is one more step > to take before we seek an approval vote from the Incubator PMC, > namely creating and submitting a proposal to the Incubator PMC that > they will

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-15 Thread Leo Simons
On Nov 14, 2006, at 5:12 AM, David E Jones wrote: Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Graduate OFBiz Podling [ ] +0 Abstain [ ] -1 Do not Graduate OFBiz Podling I think this time I'll ignore all procedural thingies and just enthousiastically vote +1 great work, peeps! Do let me know if I sho

RE: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
David E Jones wrote: > If I understand correctly what you are saying there is one more step > to take before we seek an approval vote from the Incubator PMC, > namely creating and submitting a proposal to the Incubator PMC that > they will send to the Apache Board for the whole TLP thing. Yes, if

Re: RE: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-14 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 11/14/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At this time you have, or will have, the required number of votes. We just need to see the Board resolution. I just sent a draft to the OFBiz mailing list. We'll have a resolution posted here soon. -- jaaron -

RE: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Yoav Shapira wrote: > > Which part of the fact that only Incubator PMC member votes are binding > > isn't clear? So far you have two (2). Again, so far. > My understanding is that for the vote that took place on ofbiz-dev, we > were counting OFBiz PPMC member votes as binding. Binding has a sp

Re: RE: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-14 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 11/14/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As for my own vote, -1 on a procedural basis: > Based on early discussion about OFBiz at the ASF (around the time > OFBiz entered the incubator) the best place for the project seems > to be as a top level project (TLP). This is a separate

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-14 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On 11/14/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Which part of the fact that only Incubator PMC member votes are binding isn't clear? So far you have two (2). Again, so far. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but the vote on the OFBiz list was clearly about internally deciding to request gradu

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-14 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, On 11/14/06, David E Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I counted 8 because Jacques was added as a committer during incubation and is not yet part of the PMC. I'm not entirely sure counting this way is correct, so I erred on the side of not including his vote because we had plenty of other vot

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-14 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, On 11/14/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The binding votes are from David E. Jones, Hans Bakker, Si Chen, > Al Byers, Jacques Le Roux, Jacopo Cappellato, A. Zeneski, David > Welton (a mentor), and myself (also a mentor), for a total of 9 > (not 8). Which part of the fact th

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-14 Thread David E Jones
On Nov 14, 2006, at 2:24 PM, Yoav Shapira wrote: Hi, On 11/14/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Those would be which ones? I do not see 8 binding votes (yet). The voting thread from ofbiz-dev@incubator.apache.org is available at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubat

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-14 Thread David Welton
[ ] +1 Graduate OFBiz Podling [ ] +0 Abstain [ ] -1 Do not Graduate OFBiz Podling +1 I think OFBiz is a fine open source community and project, and have been consistently impressed by the people involved, and the job they've done both technically and in dealing with the necessary bureaucracy.

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-14 Thread David E Jones
On Nov 14, 2006, at 2:02 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: The Apache Open For Business Project community has voted internally and agreed on readiness to graduate from the Apache Incubator The vote passed with 8 binding +1 votes Those would be which ones? I do not see 8 binding votes (yet). I

RE: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Yoav Shapira wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > I do not see 8 binding votes (yet). > The voting thread from ofbiz-dev@incubator.apache.org is available at Yes, I reviewed the entire thread looking. > The binding votes are from David E. Jones, Hans Bakker, Si Chen, > Al Byers, Jacques Le Roux,

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-14 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, On 11/14/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Those would be which ones? I do not see 8 binding votes (yet). The voting thread from ofbiz-dev@incubator.apache.org is available at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ofbiz-dev/200611.mbox/browser It's in the Novemb

RE: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> The Apache Open For Business Project community has voted internally > and agreed on readiness to graduate from the Apache Incubator > The vote passed with 8 binding +1 votes Those would be which ones? I do not see 8 binding votes (yet). As for my own vote, -1 on a procedural basis: > Based o

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-14 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, On 11/13/06, David E Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The Apache Open For Business Project community has voted internally and agreed on readiness to graduate from the Apache Incubator based on the Incubator Policy exit guidelines here: Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Graduate OFBiz Podlin

Re: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-14 Thread Christian Geisert
David E Jones schrieb: > > The Apache Open For Business Project community has voted internally and > agreed on readiness to graduate from the Apache Incubator based on the > Incubator Policy exit guidelines here: [..] > Please cast your votes: +1 Great diverse community which worked really h