Re: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-22 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> Yes. It's no good me or any one person promising to be here in 5 years > time. There has to be a pool of users sufficiently interested and > empowered to be able to become administrators. > 5 years ago, there probably wasn't bugzilla... If a particular community decides to use it, then someon

Re: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-22 Thread Paul Hammant
Jeff, I think the 'empowered' part is where Bugzilla falls down. I don't know about Scarab, but JIRA administration is mostly done through the web interface. Project-specific admins can be specified, who are allowed to create new versions/components for their project. Don't forget that the im

Re: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-22 Thread James Strachan
On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 06:36 pm, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I think it would be helpful to have a discussion and consensus on which issue tracking tool should be adopted, and why, but it ought to be ASF-wide. I don't believe that it makes sense for us to use multiple tools in the same spac

Re: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-22 Thread Jeff Turner
(moving to infrastructure@, where this is more relevant. Thread at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10614699951&r=1&w=2) On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 01:36:35PM -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Jeff, > > Jeff Turner wrote: ... > > I volunteer :) Hacking JIRA is my day job. > > I think it would be

RE: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-22 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Quoting "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > we have you and Henri Yandell volunteering to help admin the tool. For > bugzilla, we've really got no one who seems devoted to it (or they just stay > quiet). If that turns out to be a problem, I'd volunteer. I am an emerited committer of perl.ap

RE: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-21 Thread Noel J. Bergman
James, > I'm happy either way really. I'm quite happy with the status quo but if > folks wanna move it to Apache infrastructure instead I'm a firm +1 also. Remember, though, the original question posed by Brian on this thread: is the status quo (having projects go off the infrastructure for these

RE: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-21 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Jeff, Jeff Turner wrote: > James Strachan wrote: > > Though there's no reason, given some hardware and a volunteer, why we > > couldn't install JIRA at Apache. > [if] infrastructure peeps prefer to keep bugtrackers on ASF hardware Well, that was the question being raised. Should those tools be

Re: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-21 Thread James Strachan
On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 01:46 pm, Jeff Turner wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 07:17:56AM +0100, James Strachan wrote: On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 10:23 pm, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I've asked that question before, and been told that CVS is mandatory, the official web site must be on

Re: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-21 Thread bob mcwhirter
> I don't really see the need though. Bob is doing a fine job hosting JIRA > on werken.com. I'm sure that backups to ASF hardware could be arranged > if that were really an issue. Thanks. We do backup offsite on a nightly basis, also. > But if a) Bob would like to offload the job, b) infrastru

Re: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-21 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:46:24 +1000 Jeff Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But if a) Bob would like to offload the job, b) infrastructure peeps > prefer to keep bugtrackers on ASF hardware, then if someone can toss > me a nagoya account I'll set up a pilot JIRA installation. Ditto: Also, pleas

Re: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-21 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Jeff Turner wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 07:17:56AM +0100, James Strachan wrote: > > > > Though there's no reason, given some hardware and a volunteer, why we > > couldn't install JIRA at Apache. > > I volunteer :) Hacking JIRA is my day job. I'm happy to help. While n

JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

2003-08-21 Thread Jeff Turner
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 07:17:56AM +0100, James Strachan wrote: > On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 10:23 pm, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > >I've asked that question before, and been told that CVS is mandatory, > >the official web site must be on the ASF infrastructure, but that > >other tools might no