Re: Getting Apache [project] included in Linux distributions

2009-04-12 Thread Santiago Gala
El sáb, 11-04-2009 a las 20:35 +0100, Robert Burrell Donkin escribió: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Aidan Skinner > wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin > > wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Aidan Skinner > >> wrote: > > > >> (Apache and RMS s

Re: Getting Apache [project] included in Linux distributions

2009-04-11 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > > > On 04/09/2009 02:13 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: >> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Chris Chabot  wrote: >>> >>> Ps, Hans De Goede has a bit more experience with several distro's then me >>> and offered to help out too, i've adde

Re: Getting Apache [project] included in Linux distributions

2009-04-11 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Aidan Skinner wrote: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin > wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Aidan Skinner >> wrote: > >> (Apache and RMS saw Java a little differently: an opportunity as >> opposed to a trap. Apache has always b

Re: Getting Apache [project] included in Linux distributions

2009-04-10 Thread Aidan Skinner
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Aidan Skinner > wrote: > (Apache and RMS saw Java a little differently: an opportunity as > opposed to a trap. Apache has always been confident in our ability to > - if necessary - develop a new v

Re: Getting Apache [project] included in Linux distributions

2009-04-10 Thread Santiago Gala
El vie, 10-04-2009 a las 18:45 +0100, Robert Burrell Donkin escribió: (...) > the advantage of being the upstream is that it's usually easier for us > to get stuff developed than the distros so long as we understand what > they need. > What they need is pretty obvious: - explicit runtime dependenc

Re: Getting Apache [project] included in Linux distributions

2009-04-10 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Aidan Skinner wrote: > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin > wrote: > >> IMHO apache needs to be more active at getting it's corpus into the >> distributions. for a long time, the Java Trap stuff was a major social >> barrier but that should dea

Re: Getting Apache [project] included in Linux distributions

2009-04-10 Thread Aidan Skinner
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > On 04/09/2009 02:13 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: >> what about dependencies? >> > > I assume you mean libraries / other software on which the project > you want to package depends. Chances are good most are already packaged > if not yo

Re: Getting Apache [project] included in Linux distributions

2009-04-10 Thread Hans de Goede
On 04/09/2009 02:13 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Chris Chabot wrote: Ps, Hans De Goede has a bit more experience with several distro's then me and offered to help out too, i've added him to the CC list. great :-) Hi all, I hope non subscriber posts t

Re: Getting Apache [project] included in Linux distributions

2009-04-10 Thread Aidan Skinner
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > IMHO apache needs to be more active at getting it's corpus into the > distributions. for a long time, the Java Trap stuff was a major social > barrier but that should dead and gone now. (isn't it?) Ish. Dusting off my Linux systems m

Re: Getting Apache [project] included in Linux distributions

2009-04-09 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Chris Chabot wrote: > Ps, Hans De Goede has a bit more experience with several distro's then me > and offered to help out too, i've added him to the CC list. great :-) i've create https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-104 so that anyone who wants to con

Re: Getting Apache [project] included in Linux distributions

2009-04-09 Thread Chris Chabot
Ps, Hans De Goede has a bit more experience with several distro's then me and offered to help out too, i've added him to the CC list. -- Chris On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Chris Chabot wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin < > robertburrelldon...@gmail.com> w

Re: Getting Apache [project] included in Linux distributions

2009-04-09 Thread Chris Chabot
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin < robertburrelldon...@gmail.com> wrote: > > we should probably try to kick start some incubator documentation on > this. would you be willing to lend a hand? > I don't think I'll have the time to be the driving force behind it, but would be mo

Re: Getting Apache [project] included in Linux distributions

2009-04-08 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Chris Chabot wrote: > I don't have any specific experience with getting apache projects into linux > distro's, however I have in the past done some package management for RedHat > and Fedora. cool > The answer is usually pretty simple: Package it in the distro's f

Re: Getting Apache [project] included in Linux distributions

2009-04-08 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Todd Volkert wrote: > Does anyone on this list have any experience with getting your project > included in the major Linux distributions?  I'd like to position Pivot > properly to ease our path toward inclusion in these distros.  Any > insight would be appreciated!

Re: Getting Apache [project] included in Linux distributions

2009-04-08 Thread Chris Chabot
I don't have any specific experience with getting apache projects into linux distro's, however I have in the past done some package management for RedHat and Fedora. The answer is usually pretty simple: Package it in the distro's format (deb, rpm, etc) following the guidelines of that distro, and

Getting Apache [project] included in Linux distributions

2009-04-08 Thread Todd Volkert
Does anyone on this list have any experience with getting your project included in the major Linux distributions? I'd like to position Pivot properly to ease our path toward inclusion in these distros. Any insight would be appreciated! Thanks, -T