On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Hans de Goede <hdego...@redhat.com> wrote: > > > On 04/09/2009 02:13 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: >> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Chris Chabot<chab...@google.com> wrote: >>> >>> Ps, Hans De Goede has a bit more experience with several distro's then me >>> and offered to help out too, i've added him to the CC list. >> >> great :-) >> > > Hi all, > > I hope non subscriber posts to general@incubator.apache.org work. Short > self intro: I've been a Free software developer for circa 10 years and > the last 5 years I've been doing Fedora packaging (amongst other things). > As my email address shows I'm currently working for RedHat > (for 7 months now). > > <stddisclaimer.h> > Everything I contribute to this discussion is my personal input, > I'm not talking on behalf of RedHat nor of the Fedora project. > </stddisclaimer.h>
great :-) > As Fedora packager I'm in contact with packagers from various other > distributions, but I'm in no way an expert on packaging for other distros. > The best place to contact people involved in packaging with other distros > is probably the distro neutral packaging discussion list at freedesktop.org: > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/admin/distributions volunteers to say hello over there? > <snip> > >> [general] >> picking up with the advice from chris, i suppose apache projects need >> to actively engage with the distros, rather than just expecting it to >> happen or demanding that someone else does the work. so - i guess - >> that the first step should be to find volunteers from the apache >> community (who need not be developers) who are interested in working >> with the linux distros. as a second step, take time to understand the >> distro community (and whether there might already be some people there >> who are interested), to understand the rules of the community and to >> work out what - if anything - is already happening in this area. >> > > Ack, > > There are 2 ways to get packages for a piece of Free software into a > community distro like Fedora / Debian / Ubuntu, 1 is to find someone > within the apache project who will do the packaging and have him get > into contact with the distribution. More open distro's usually have > quite extensive documents about both packaging guidelines as well as > the process of becoming a packager. > > The second method is to find people within the distro who might be > willing to do the work for you. In my own experience it is always > very nice to have an upstream which actively collaborates in packaging, > so if you advertise you are looking for packagers some people might bite. > you could try to send a mail to fedora-devel-list: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list > (subscribtion mandatory for sending) makes sense :-) > Explaining which apache projects you would like to see packaged, with > a short description of the package, potential users, and basically > some advertising as to why it should be part of Fedora. Your luck here > will probably very wildly, but you might get lucky. I'm sure other > distros have similar mailinglists where you could send such a request. ok we can probably start pulling together some documentation on this and starting to try to discover some contacts >> what about dependencies? >> > > I assume you mean libraries / other software on which the project > you want to package depends. Chances are good most are already packaged > if not you will have to package them too. > >> [fedora] >> AFAICT chris has done a good job on this: is there anything else to add? >> > > Not really :) cool :-) >> [redhat] >> is the best way into redhat through fedora? >> > > I assume you mean RHEL here, (i was fishing :-) > getting into RHEL itself depends upon customer > demand (as once something is in RedHat obliges itself to support it), > there is not much you can do there. > > However under the Fedora project there also is the EPEL project for RHEL > add-on packages using the same procedures as for regular Fedora packages. > Once you have Fedora packages getting packages in to EPEL requires little > effort (assuming the deps are already in EPEL), see: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL ok thanks for the help - robert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
