Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-05-02 Thread David Blevins
On May 2, 2007, at 3:23 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: David Blevins wrote: Here's the revised language: RESOLVED, that The Apache OpenEJB Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software project related to enterprise application container

RE: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-05-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
David Blevins wrote: > Here's the revised language: RESOLVED, that The Apache OpenEJB Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software project related to enterprise application containers and object distribution services [based on, bu

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-05-01 Thread David Blevins
On May 1, 2007, at 1:27 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: we definitely understand we don't have an exclusive "lock" on any ASF land; we understand perfectly that's not how the ASF works :) :-) As I allowed earlier, the discourse devolved a bit into a bikeshed. :-) I look forward to the revise

RE: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-05-01 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> we definitely understand we don't have an exclusive "lock" on > any ASF land; we understand perfectly that's not how the ASF works :) :-) As I allowed earlier, the discourse devolved a bit into a bikeshed. :-) I look forward to the revised language, and OpenEJB's graduation. --- Noel

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-05-01 Thread David Blevins
Noel, we definitely understand we don't have an exclusive "lock" on any ASF land; we understand perfectly that's not how the ASF works :) -David On May 1, 2007, at 12:47 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: David Blevins wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: David Blevins wrote: We could use "Scalable, tr

RE: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-05-01 Thread Noel J. Bergman
David Blevins wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: >> David Blevins wrote: >>> We could use "Scalable, transactional, and multi-user >>> secure architecture for the development and deployment >>> of component-based business applications" >> How would that differ from River or WS (various WS-* specs cov

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-30 Thread David Blevins
On Apr 30, 2007, at 4:57 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: David Blevins wrote: Couldn't that be "in EJB and related technologies" ?? Certainly implementing the EJB spec is a constant for the project, so that description would be adequate. It does give me an "ick" feeling though as it's very

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-30 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
David Blevins wrote: Couldn't that be "in EJB and related technologies" ?? Certainly implementing the EJB spec is a constant for the project, so that description would be adequate. It does give me an "ick" feeling though as it's very much in the nature of the project to go beyond EJB and te

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-30 Thread David Blevins
Noel J. Bergman wrote: David Blevins wrote: We could use "Scalable, transactional, and multi-user secure architecture for the development and deployment of component-based business applications" How would that differ from River or WS (various WS-* specs cover transactions and security)? They

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-30 Thread Brett Porter
On 30/04/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is that still true of companies owned by the same entity are counted as one (e.g., IBM, Lotus and Tivoli would count as a single employer)? Yup. - Brett - To unsubscribe

RE: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-30 Thread Noel J. Bergman
David Blevins wrote: >> The definition of ejb spells out "Scalable, transactional, and >> multi-user secure" which is summed up by the word 'enterprise'. >> So maybe something like "creation and maintenance of enterprise >> application containers and object distribution". Maybe expand >> that last

RE: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-30 Thread Noel J. Bergman
David Blevins wrote: > We could use "Scalable, transactional, and multi-user > secure architecture for the development and deployment > of component-based business applications" How would that differ from River or WS (various WS-* specs cover transactions and security)? > Generally, I think it's

RE: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-30 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Brett Porter wrote: > Noel J. Bergman asked: > > What is the diversity of the Committer list and the PMC? > There are individuals from >= 3 employers in both committers and the PMC. Is that still true of companies owned by the same entity are counted as one (e.g., IBM, Lotus and Tivoli would count

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-29 Thread David Blevins
On Apr 27, 2007, at 3:19 PM, David Blevins wrote: On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:40 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 4/25/07, David Blevins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Apr 24, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Brett Porter wrote: > On 24/04/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > the creatio

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-27 Thread David Blevins
On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:40 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 4/25/07, David Blevins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Apr 24, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Brett Porter wrote: > On 24/04/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 4/25/07, David Blevins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Apr 24, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Brett Porter wrote: > On 24/04/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to >> > enterprise application and remoting services, for distrib

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-27 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 27 April 2007 13:12, David Blevins wrote: > Haven't seen any more discussion, so just following up. Noel, were > your questions answered to your liking? Niclas? +1 to graduate OpenEJB to TLP. Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er I wor

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-26 Thread David Blevins
Haven't seen any more discussion, so just following up. Noel, were your questions answered to your liking? Niclas? -David On Apr 24, 2007, at 10:09 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Brett, What is the diversity of the Committer list and the PMC? the creation and maintenance of open-source soft

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-24 Thread David Blevins
On Apr 24, 2007, at 7:41 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Wednesday 25 April 2007 08:31, David Blevins wrote: Generally, I think it's good to use words that describe EJB then the words Enterprise JavaBeans specifically. Primarily because I think it's good to be able to innovate in the space and

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-24 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 08:31, David Blevins wrote: > Generally, I think it's good to use words that describe EJB then the > words Enterprise JavaBeans specifically. Primarily because I think > it's good to be able to innovate in the space and not limit ourselves > to the ideas approved by the

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-24 Thread David Blevins
On Apr 24, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Brett Porter wrote: On 24/04/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to > enterprise application and remoting services, for distribution at > no charge to the public. A bit generic for a proje

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-24 Thread Brett Porter
On 24/04/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Brett, What is the diversity of the Committer list and the PMC? There are individuals from >= 3 employers in both committers and the PMC. > the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to > enterprise application and re

RE: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-24 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Brett, What is the diversity of the Committer list and the PMC? > the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to > enterprise application and remoting services, for distribution at > no charge to the public. A bit generic for a project that is intended to managing an implementat

[vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

2007-04-23 Thread Brett Porter
Hi to all incubator PMC folk, The OpenEJB community have voted to ask the incubator PMC to recommended the following resolution to the board. For further reference, see the earlier thread on this list: http://www.nabble.com/-proposal--OpenEJB-Graduation-Proposal-tf3509732.html#a9803491 Note that