RE: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2009-01-01 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> on a point of order, do mentors/champions need to formally '+1' the vote? Yes. There are no implied votes. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-28 Thread Ian Holsman
Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Ian Holsman wrote: getting non-FB contributors to contribute. Isn't this an oxymoron? c/contribute/re-contribute/ Cheers Niclas - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Ian Holsman wrote: > getting non-FB contributors to contribute. Isn't this an oxymoron? Cheers Niclas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-28 Thread Ian Holsman
Hi Martijn. The major bottleneck with the FB devs in the repository is that they are using a separate one internally for their development and then refactoring it for public use. Prashant has committed to using the public repository in the future. (see thread "get a cold and miss all the fun")

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-28 Thread Martijn Dashorst
My concern is that though the original FB devs told that they wanted to move to apache, they are (according to what I've read here) silent again. The discussions on the original list did not show a trust in a community without the Facebook devs. Futhermore, from what I've read on the original list

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator (Summary)

2008-12-28 Thread Jason van Zyl
+1 Brian's response clarified the situation for me. On 28-Dec-08, at 7:29 PM, Ian Holsman wrote: After 5 days, the following is the vote summary of the binding votes (apologies if I missed your vote in advance). +1: (5) Brian, Ian, Otis, Dims, Emmanuel +0: (2) Bertrand, Torsten -1: (1) Nicl

[VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator (Summary)

2008-12-28 Thread Ian Holsman
After 5 days, the following is the vote summary of the binding votes (apologies if I missed your vote in advance). +1: (5) Brian, Ian, Otis, Dims, Emmanuel +0: (2) Bertrand, Torsten -1: (1) Niclas ?: Jason, Martijn, Matthieu (commented but no vote) The only concern on the voting process was th

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-27 Thread Brian McCallister
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > I'd like to see some plan on dealing with the fork/community stuff. We > *know* it is a problem, and I'd like to see how this is being > addressed in the proposal. In my opinion that is the crux to this > proposal. Just going Apache is no

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-27 Thread Brian McCallister
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > I'd like to see some plan on dealing with the fork/community stuff. We > *know* it is a problem, and I'd like to see how this is being > addressed in the proposal. In my opinion that is the crux to this > proposal. Just going Apache is no

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-27 Thread Martijn Dashorst
I'd like to see some plan on dealing with the fork/community stuff. We *know* it is a problem, and I'd like to see how this is being addressed in the proposal. In my opinion that is the crux to this proposal. Just going Apache is not going to solve problems. The feather is not a magic wand you can

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-27 Thread Brian McCallister
I consider this to be a high-risk project, and agree with Martjin's concerns, but do not consider this a bar to entering incubation. The *reason* Cassandra wants to enter incubation is to address these weaknesses. +1 -Brian On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Ian Holsman wrote: > > Dear Incubator

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-27 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 26-Dec-08, at 3:31 PM, Torsten Curdt wrote: [ ] +1 Accept Cassandra as a new podling [ ] -1 Do not accept the new podling (provide reason, please) -1 (binding). I will even give reasons because it is Christmas; a. See Martijn's concern. b. Running vote over Christmas when *many* people ar

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Torsten Curdt wrote: > ...I also have the feeling that the proposal could benefit from some more > "meat". The timing around Christmas indeed was not very helpful > either. But what really concerns me a bit is the question whether > people really want to/can work

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-26 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny
Ian Holsman wrote: Ian, since you are the one driving this... would you mind working with the project team on improving the proposal? ...and then consider a re-submit? at the moment we have 4 '+1's (including mine) and one -1, and another ~45 hours to go. You have my +1. Even if I understa

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-26 Thread Ian Holsman
Ian, since you are the one driving this... would you mind working with the project team on improving the proposal? ...and then consider a re-submit? at the moment we have 4 '+1's (including mine) and one -1, and another ~45 hours to go. We have had the project in 'discussion' for about a mo

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-26 Thread Torsten Curdt
>> > [ ] +1 Accept Cassandra as a new podling >> > [ ] -1 Do not accept the new podling (provide reason, please) >> >> -1 (binding). >> >> I will even give reasons because it is Christmas; >> a. See Martijn's concern. >> b. Running vote over Christmas when *many* people are busy with other >> thi

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-25 Thread Ian Holsman
Matthieu Riou wrote: On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Ian Holsman wrote: There has been some discussion around the Cassandra proposal, and we would now like to officially propose Cassandra to the Incubator for consideration..

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-25 Thread Matthieu Riou
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Ian Holsman wrote: > > > There has been some discussion around the Cassandra proposal, > > and we would now like to officially propose Cassandra to the Incubator > > for consideration.. > > > [ ] +1 Accept

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-24 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Ian Holsman wrote: > There has been some discussion around the Cassandra proposal, > and we would now like to officially propose Cassandra to the Incubator > for consideration.. > [ ] +1 Accept Cassandra as a new podling > [ ] -1 Do not accept the new podling (pr

Re: Risk of orphanage (was: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator)

2008-12-24 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 6:47 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > The whole problem with the original project, and the reason why it > ends up at The ASF is that the current developers (i.e. the facebook > devs) are *not* active, not responsive and not prone to open > development. I'd argue that this is

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-23 Thread Davanum Srinivas
r.apache.org >> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:01:37 PM >> Subject: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator >> >> >> Dear Incubator PMC, >> >> There has been some discussion around the Cassandra proposal, >> and we would now like to officially p

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-23 Thread Shalin Shekhar Mangar
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 3:31 AM, Ian Holsman wrote: > > Dear Incubator PMC, > > There has been some discussion around the Cassandra proposal, > and we would now like to officially propose Cassandra to the Incubator > for consideration.. > > +1 (non-binding) -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-23 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
+1 Otis-- Sematext -- http://sematext.com/ -- Lucene - Solr - Nutch - Original Message > From: Ian Holsman > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:01:37 PM > Subject: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator > > > Dear Incu

Re: Risk of orphanage (was: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator)

2008-12-23 Thread Ian Holsman
Martijn Dashorst wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Ian Holsman wrote: * Cassandra is already deployed within Facebook and many other organizations are actively moving to deploy this in production. Original developers are and will actively stay involved and hence there is no realistic

Risk of orphanage (was: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator)

2008-12-23 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Ian Holsman wrote: > * Cassandra is already deployed within Facebook and many other organizations > are actively moving to deploy this in production. Original developers > are and will actively stay involved and hence there is no realistic chance > of it getting o

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Ian Holsman wrote: > ...There has been some discussion around the Cassandra proposal, > and we would now like to officially propose Cassandra to the Incubator > for consideration... +1 -Bertrand --

[VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-23 Thread Ian Holsman
Dear Incubator PMC, There has been some discussion around the Cassandra proposal, and we would now like to officially propose Cassandra to the Incubator for consideration.. Please vote on accepting Cassandra project for incubation. The full Cassandra proposal is available at the end of this mes