Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Amoro(incubating) 0.7.0-incubating rc2

2024-07-30 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
+1 (binding) I checked: - LICENSE, DISCLAIMER and NOTICE look good (I saw PJ's comment, but I think NOTICE is correct as it's ASF developed component) - incubating is in the version - no binary found in the source distribution - checksms and signatures are OK - ASF header is present in all expecte

Re: [DISCUSS] PolarisProposal to the incubator

2024-07-30 Thread Jack Ye
> What's the difference between this project and Amoro Here is my $0.01, please correct me if I am wrong, especially for people working on Amoro and Gravitino. I think Apache Amoro is focused more on being a self-contained complete data lakehouse management and ingestion system. It is a complete

Re: [DISCUSS] PolarisProposal to the incubator

2024-07-30 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Manu Thanks for the details ! I agree with you. As mentor on Gravitino, I would be more than happy to connect the two podlings. Regards JB On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 7:00 AM Manu Zhang wrote: > > AFAIK, Amoro is a management system with optimization service, catalog > service, etc. It has a bui

Re: [DISCUSS] PolarisProposal to the incubator

2024-07-30 Thread Manu Zhang
AFAIK, Amoro is a management system with optimization service, catalog service, etc. It has a built-in catalog but can also work with other catalogs like Polaris. I think Polaris is more comparable to Gravitino which entered the incubator recently. It would be interesting to see how these two commu

RE: need help one champion who is interested to bring Solidigm CSAL cloud storage acceleration Layer into Apache Open Source SW family

2024-07-30 Thread Wayne Gao
Thank you so much for your quick response. Please see my inline response. - The ASF advocates Community Over Code. In the incubator, we help projects grow and mature their communities, rather than just building a code repository. So where is your community? Are there any outside contributors bes

Re: [DISCUSS] PolarisProposal to the incubator

2024-07-30 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Dave Most of the listed PPMC members are not ASF member, but they could be interested to mentors. So, even if some of them don't have code-contributions on Polaris, they are helping a lot in the roadmap, use cases, design, etc. They would like to help in terms of governance and community buildi

Re: [DISCUSS] PolarisProposal to the incubator

2024-07-30 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi The proposal is more generic: today it's Apache Iceberg, but after the discussions with the initial community we agreed it could make sense to address other use cases. I don't know Amoro in details, but I am happy to bridge the communities to work together. Regards JB On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at

Re: [DISCUSS] PolarisProposal to the incubator

2024-07-30 Thread Xuanwo
Hi, JB Thank you for starting this thread; it's great to see an increasing number of projects being developed around Iceberg. I have two questions: - The polaris github repo said it's "an open source catalog for Apache Iceberg", but the proposal changed into "a catalog for data lakes". Does it

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Amoro(incubating) 0.7.0-incubating rc2

2024-07-30 Thread Jinsong Zhou
Hi, Sorry for my incorrect expression of "The vote is uncalled". The vote is uncanceled. Besides, we still need at least 2 binding votes to complete this release. Best, Jinsong On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 6:18 PM Xinyu Zhou wrote: > Carry my +1 binding from the Amoro dev. > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2024

Re: need help one champion who is interested to bring Solidigm CSAL cloud storage acceleration Layer into Apache Open Source SW family

2024-07-30 Thread Xuanwo
Hi, Wayne Gao Thanks a lot for starting this thread and also happy to see more storage related projects in the ASF. I have two questions around this idea: - The ASF advocates Community Over Code. In the incubator, we help projects grow and mature their communities, rather than just building a

need help one champion who is interested to bring Solidigm CSAL cloud storage acceleration Layer into Apache Open Source SW family

2024-07-30 Thread Wayne Gao
Hello dear Apache mentors, This is Wayne Gao from Solidigm as Principal storage solution architect, previous I worked at DellEMC objectscale and Isilon as Sr-Principal storage engineer. Recently Solidigm 60T-120T QLC gain big success in US AI infra building as backend storage. I would like t

Re: [DISCUSS] PolarisProposal to the incubator

2024-07-30 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Jul 30, 2024, at 11:34 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > That's a good question. The main reason is because we wanted people > with Apache experience in the PPMC to mentor the committers and > contributors heading to PPMC as well. > Also, the initial committers worked clos

Re: [DISCUSS] PolarisProposal to the incubator

2024-07-30 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Alex, Correct me if I'm wrong (even if I know Wayang :)), Wayang is more on the data processing (with features like zero-copy, etc). Polaris is a catalog, basically providing the metadata for a table/view name and dealing with access to table/view. So Wayang could work with Polaris to retrieve

Re: [DISCUSS] PolarisProposal to the incubator

2024-07-30 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi, Good question too :) The project codebase went public, and we squashed a bunch of commits and changed the history, and we lost some commits. That said, you are right: if everyone contributed on the ideas, visions, draft etc, not everyone on the lists (both PPMC members and committers) contribu

Re: [DISCUSS] PolarisProposal to the incubator

2024-07-30 Thread Alexander Alten-Lorenz
Hey JB, What’s the difference to Wayang? —a. Sent from my mobile, please excuse typos > On Jul 30, 2024, at 8:40 PM, Ayush Saxena wrote: > > Hi JB, > Apart from the questions from Dave, I have an additional question > about the initial committers & PPMC members, Did those folks > contribut

Re: [DISCUSS] PolarisProposal to the incubator

2024-07-30 Thread Ayush Saxena
Hi JB, Apart from the questions from Dave, I have an additional question about the initial committers & PPMC members, Did those folks contribute anything to the project so far? I checked the repository [1], most of them here have some trivial 1-2 contributions. & then the initial PR [2], it does me

Re: [DISCUSS] PolarisProposal to the incubator

2024-07-30 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Dave, That's a good question. The main reason is because we wanted people with Apache experience in the PPMC to mentor the committers and contributors heading to PPMC as well. Also, the initial committers worked closely with PPMC guidance (explaining the ICLA, good practice, etc). So, we wanted

Re: [DISCUSS] PolarisProposal to the incubator

2024-07-30 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi JB, An interesting project that looks pretty mature. I’m curious about the split between Initial PPMC and initial Committer. In the usual case a new podling will have all of the Initial Committers on the PPMC. Can you tell us why this is not the case with Polaris? Best, Dave > On Jul 30, 2

[DISCUSS] PolarisProposal to the incubator

2024-07-30 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi folks, We would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator: Polaris. Polaris is a catalog for data lakes. It provides new levels of choice, flexibility and control over data, with full enterprise security and Apache Iceberg interoperability across a multitude of engines and infrastruct

[ANNOUNCE] Liminal podling is retired

2024-07-30 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi everyone, following the vote about retiring Liminal podling, I completed all tasks. The Liminal podling is now retired, Liminal close down will be notified for the next board report. Regards JB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: gene

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Amoro(incubating) 0.7.0-incubating rc2

2024-07-30 Thread Xinyu Zhou
Carry my +1 binding from the Amoro dev. On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 6:58 PM Jinsong Zhou wrote: > Hi PJ, > > Thank you for the further explanation. > > The vote is uncalled. Let's continue to review this release candidate. > > We will continue to improve the NOTICE file content with the GitHub > iss