Hi Manu

Thanks for the details !
I agree with you. As mentor on Gravitino, I would be more than happy
to connect the two podlings.

Regards
JB

On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 7:00 AM Manu Zhang <owenzhang1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> AFAIK, Amoro is a management system with optimization service, catalog
> service, etc. It has a built-in catalog but can also work with other
> catalogs like Polaris.
> I think Polaris is more comparable to Gravitino which entered the incubator
> recently. It would be interesting to see how these two communities can
> collaborate.
>
> Regards,
> Manu
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 12:36 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > The proposal is more generic: today it's Apache Iceberg, but after the
> > discussions with the initial community we agreed it could make sense
> > to address other use cases.
> >
> > I don't know Amoro in details, but I am happy to bridge the
> > communities to work together.
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 5:16 AM Xuanwo <xua...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, JB
> > >
> > > Thank you for starting this thread; it's great to see an increasing
> > number of projects being developed around Iceberg.
> > >
> > > I have two questions:
> > >
> > > - The polaris github repo said it's "an open source catalog for Apache
> > Iceberg", but the proposal changed into "a catalog for data lakes". Does it
> > mean Polaris's scope has been changed?
> > > - What's the difference between this project and Amoro:
> > https://github.com/apache/amoro? How do these two communities collaborate?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2024, at 04:19, Dave Fisher wrote:
> > > >> On Jul 30, 2024, at 11:34 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Dave,
> > > >>
> > > >> That's a good question. The main reason is because we wanted people
> > > >> with Apache experience in the PPMC to mentor the committers and
> > > >> contributors heading to PPMC as well.
> > > >> Also, the initial committers worked closely with PPMC guidance
> > > >> (explaining the ICLA, good practice, etc).
> > > >> So, we wanted to have PPMC acting more as mentor (both technically but
> > > >> also with their Apache experience) with committers.
> > > >
> > > > That makes sense. Are any of the proposed PPMC members also ASF Members
> > > > and/or potentially future Mentors?
> > > >
> > > >> If it's problematic, we can start only with the PPMC group and invite
> > > >> new committers/PPMC members during incubation period.
> > > >
> > > > No problem. It will actually provide the Mentors and later the IPMC
> > > > additional data to see if the PPMC is properly growing the PPMC and
> > > > Committer base.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >> JB
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 8:19 PM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hi JB,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> An interesting project that looks pretty mature.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I’m curious about the split between Initial PPMC and initial
> > Committer. In the usual case a new podling will have all of the Initial
> > Committers on the PPMC. Can you tell us why this is not the case with
> > Polaris?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Best,
> > > >>> Dave
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On Jul 30, 2024, at 10:33 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> > > >>>> <j...@nanthrax.net>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Hi folks,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> We would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator:
> > Polaris.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Polaris is a catalog for data lakes. It provides new levels of
> > choice,
> > > >>>> flexibility and control over data, with full enterprise security and
> > > >>>> Apache Iceberg interoperability across a multitude of engines and
> > > >>>> infrastructure. Polaris builds on standards such as those created by
> > > >>>> Apache Iceberg, providing the following benefits for the ecosystem:
> > > >>>> * Multi-engine interoperability over a single copy of data,
> > > >>>> eliminating the need for moving and copying data across different
> > > >>>> engines and catalogs.
> > > >>>> * An interoperable security model providing a unified authorization
> > > >>>> layer independent from the engines processing analytical tables.
> > > >>>> * For multi-catalog scenarios, a unified catalog level view of data
> > > >>>> across multiple catalogs via catalog notification integrations.
> > > >>>> * The ability to host Polaris Catalog on the infrastructure of your
> > choice.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Here is the proposal:
> > > >>>>
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/PolarisProposal
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Comments and feedback are welcome.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks!
> > > >>>> Regards
> > > >>>> JB
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
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