Re: Wave community may need our help

2015-03-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi Roman, you might have noticed, that one of the mentors (me) were actively asking for this report. I simply forgot to sign it, which does not happen often to me. In example, the last report was signed (Dec). More mentors are always welcome; but its not this podling is out on his own. From mento

Re: [CANCEL] [VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating

2015-03-12 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Gour Saha wrote: > Marvin, > That totally makes sense. > > I am going to cancel this release and prepare a new RC with the fixes. I > will call it 0.70.1-incubating and start the vote all over again. > > Thank you. And thank you, Gour, for your persistence and und

[CANCEL] [VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating

2015-03-12 Thread Gour Saha
Marvin, That totally makes sense. I am going to cancel this release and prepare a new RC with the fixes. I will call it 0.70.1-incubating and start the vote all over again. Thank you. -Gour On 3/12/15, 7:02 PM, "Marvin Humphrey" wrote: >On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Gour Saha wrote: > >>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating

2015-03-12 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Gour Saha wrote: > Is it okay if we move them to a more appropriate location like > src/test/resources directory? Or should we just delete them? Here's the rationale, redux: The Apache Software Foundation releases open source software. Binary files cannot be au

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating

2015-03-12 Thread Gour Saha
Hi Justin, Thank you for your time. These files are test resources to make tests work on Jenkins on a windows machine - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SLIDER-201 The readme.md located below also gives a little info but I just realized that it is incomplete - https://git-wip-us.apache.org/

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating

2015-03-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, I notice the binaries in question are in version control as well [1] which is highly unusual. This seem to be related to this [2], I also note it doest't look like vote for Hadoop 2.6 RC0 passed but RC1 did. [3]. Any else have concerns about this? Thanks, Justin 1. https://git-wip-us.apa

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating

2015-03-12 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, It's -1 binding from me as there are binary files (dll's and exe's!) in the source release (in both the .zip and tar.gz). Was rat run over the release? It seems a little strange the release got this far without anyone noticing that. Here are the offending files: apache-slider-0.70.0-incub

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Singa as incubator project

2015-03-12 Thread Thejas Nair
Thanks for the feedback Bertrand! Yes, I agree it makes sense to start with a single user and dev mailing list. I got this feedback during the proposal phase, but I forgot to update the proposal. On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:42 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Olem

Wave community may need our help

2015-03-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! all throughout my tenure I was keeping an eye on Wave trying to figure out how we can help that community. The poddling has been incubating close to 5 years and for a long time they've struggled with the basics of producing the release and growing the community beyond its core. I was extremel

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > It is my pleasure and privilege to open up the following > proposal: >https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GroovyProposal Thanks Roman, the proposal looks great and I am super happy to see Groovy in these lands! As the PMC chair for

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > It is my pleasure and privilege to open up the following > proposal: > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GroovyProposal I've read through the proposal (rev 17). It looks good to me. FWIW I winced a bit on Apache Pig's behalf when

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Jochen Theodorou
Am 12.03.2015 18:15, schrieb Roman Shaposhnik: […] In short: * blocking proposal on the # of initial committers -- no, or at least I don't think so. * killing ourselves over reaching every single contributor on GH -- no. * doing a reasonable due diligence *while incubating* on reachin

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Cédric Champeau
On 12/03/2015 18:19, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Cédric Champeau wrote: I made this remark to myself, which is that too many people still think that Groovy is only a dynamic language. I think it's a problem because it's not, and some people really dislike dynamic l

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating

2015-03-12 Thread Billie Rinaldi
+1 binding On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Gour Saha wrote: > Hello, > > This is a call for a vote for releasing Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating. > > This is a source+binary release with one .tar file (appdef_1.tar), which > is a text file used for -ve testing. > > Summary of fixes: http://s.ap

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Cédric Champeau wrote: > I made this remark to myself, which is that too many people still think that > Groovy is only a dynamic language. I think it's a problem because > it's not, and some people really dislike dynamic languages. When they read > something like

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Jochen Theodorou wrote: > Am 12.03.2015 17:21, schrieb Ted Dunning: > >> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Jochen Wiedmann >> >> wrote: >> >>>* several writers of documentation (without committer privileges) >>>* one or two creators of graphics (icons, or

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Cédric Champeau
I made this remark to myself, which is that too many people still think that Groovy is only a dynamic language. I think it's a problem because it's not, and some people really dislike dynamic languages. When they read something like "the Groovy dynamic object-oriented programming language" (from

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Cédric Champeau
On 12/03/2015 17:53, Daniel Kulp wrote: On Mar 12, 2015, at 8:51 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: ... I am quite certain, most Incubator members would accept a project to have a "vibrant community", if the project could show, for example,

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Jochen Theodorou
Am 12.03.2015 17:21, schrieb Ted Dunning: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: * several writers of documentation (without committer privileges) * one or two creators of graphics (icons, or whatever, without committer privileges) * one or more organizations providin

RE: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
+1 See C030 on our project maturity model http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html And some commentary on committer = someone who is committed rather than someone who commits code https://community.apache.org/contributors/ Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A su

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating

2015-03-12 Thread Steve Loughran
> On 11 Mar 2015, at 13:43, Gour Saha wrote: > > Hello, > > This is a call for a vote for releasing Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating. > > This is a source+binary release with one .tar file (appdef_1.tar), which is a > text file used for -ve testing. > > Summary of fixes: http://s.apache.org/A

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Daniel Kulp
> On Mar 12, 2015, at 8:51 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jochen Wiedmann > wrote: >> ... I am quite certain, most Incubator members would accept a project to >> have a "vibrant community", if the project could show, for example,... > > Note that we don

RE: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think the business about numbers of committers and how additions to the community are cultivated is a sniff test concerning sustainability. The idea is to have some sense that there is a sustainable community in place and that there is as much attention on nurturing that sustainability as the

Re: [APPROVE] The March MRQL report

2015-03-12 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
Crikey, this went into my junk mail folder. Signed off. Regards, Alan > On Mar 7, 2015, at 6:04 AM, Leonidas Fegaras wrote: > > Dear MRQL mentors, > This is a reminder to approve the MRQL report. > Please edit it and approve it at: > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2015 > > Thanks

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Singa as incubator project

2015-03-12 Thread Daniel Dai
+1 On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Thejas Nair wrote: > The Singa Incubator Proposal document has been updated based on > feedback in the proposal thread. > > This vote is proposing the inclusion of Apache Singa as incubator project. > The vote will run for at least 72 hours. > > [ ] +1 Accept

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Ted Dunning
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > * several writers of documentation (without committer privileges) > * one or two creators of graphics (icons, or whatever, without > committer privileges) > * one or more organizations providing hosting services, and the like > This

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Benedikt Ritter
2015-03-12 16:27 GMT+01:00 Bertrand Delacretaz : > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > > ...Easy: we reach out to all the folks who may have a legitimate claim > to have > > contributed to the project in substantial ways and ivite extend an offer > to them > > (explaining

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > ...Easy: we reach out to all the folks who may have a legitimate claim to have > contributed to the project in substantial ways and ivite extend an offer to > them > (explaining that being a committer is...well... a commitment). The # of

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:14 AM, Jochen Theodorou wrote: > Am 12.03.2015 10:57, schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz: >> >> Hi, >> >> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:08 PM, jan i wrote: >>> >>> ...The proposal talks several places about a vibrant community and the >>> initial >>> commiters are only 5... >> >> >

Re: question about GSoC

2015-03-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:57 PM, 李璋华 wrote: > ...I am a student who is going to participate the 2015 GSoC. I am a student > of Dr. Li Dingcheng who is a PMC member of ASF. I want him to be my mentor... You need to talk to the developers list of the project in question. -Bertrand -

question about GSoC

2015-03-12 Thread ??????
Dear Sir/Madam: Hope this e-mail finds you well. I am a student who is going to participate the 2015 GSoC. I am a student of Dr. Li Dingcheng who is a PMC member of ASF. I want him to be my mentor and we are going to develop the Coreference Resolution with java. It will be very kind of you i

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Paul King
I would have thought that graduation would be all about showing that whatever list of committers we have (big or small) is working well? Having a large number of committers certainly makes sense with a subversion mindset but it's possibly an anti-pattern with a DVCS mindset (at least for a sta

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
Le 12/03/15 11:14, Jochen Theodorou a écrit : > Am 12.03.2015 10:57, schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz: >> Hi, >> >> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:08 PM, jan i wrote: >>> ...The proposal talks several places about a vibrant community and >>> the initial >>> commiters are only 5... >> >> As others have said

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
Le 12/03/15 10:57, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : > Hi, > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:08 PM, jan i wrote: >> ...The proposal talks several places about a vibrant community and the >> initial >> commiters are only 5... > As others have said this was discussed while preparing the proposal. I > also

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: >... I am quite certain, most Incubator members would accept a project to > have a "vibrant community", if the project could show, for example,... Note that we don't care about the state of the community when entering the incubator, that's

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Benedikt Ritter
My feeling is, that there this proposal has a positive feedback overall. How about we put together a list of things that have to be changed/resolved in the proposal before a vote can be started? I see: - trademark issues - Explanation of initial committers to community ratio what else? Benedikt

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Jochen Theodorou
Am 12.03.2015 12:04, schrieb Jochen Wiedmann: Hello, Jochen, On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Jochen Theodorou community equals committers? No. The community is more than the team of committers. I'm sure you understand. OTOH, the set of committers can be considered a representation of the c

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Jochen Theodorou wrote: > Am 12.03.2015 10:57, schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz: >> it's fine to include only the "core" Groovy committers >> to enter incubation, as usual it will be their task to grow that >> community before graduating. > > community equals

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hello, Jochen, On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Jochen Theodorou > community equals committers? No. The community is more than the team of committers. I'm sure you understand. OTOH, the set of committers can be considered a representation of the community. I am quite certain, most Incubator me

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Jochen Theodorou
Am 12.03.2015 10:57, schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz: Hi, On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:08 PM, jan i wrote: ...The proposal talks several places about a vibrant community and the initial commiters are only 5... As others have said this was discussed while preparing the proposal. I also agree that it

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:08 PM, jan i wrote: > ...The proposal talks several places about a vibrant community and the initial > commiters are only 5... As others have said this was discussed while preparing the proposal. I also agree that it's fine to include only the "core" Groovy committe

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:08 PM, jan i wrote: > Hi. > > Having just skimmed the proposal, that in general look good, one thing > caught my eye. > > The proposal talks several places about a vibrant community and the initial > commiters are only 5. This, is a GREAT question! Thank you so much for

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread jan i
Hi. Having just skimmed the proposal, that in general look good, one thing caught my eye. The proposal talks several places about a vibrant community and the initial commiters are only 5. I am not raising it as a problem, just would like a little explanation. I think the project would fit nicel

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
Le 11/03/15 21:20, Martijn Dashorst a écrit : > Great initiative! > > Just one question: I don't see anything related to the groovy name and > possible trademark in the proposal. Does Pivotal have any claims to > the name groovy, and if so are those claims transferred to the ASF? I think we have r