Re: Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-04-03 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 3 April 2013 14:41, ant elder wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > > > > > Thanks for the clarification, Ant. Is the documentation ignored? > > Whenever I > > > look through it, it seems like the problem is tha

Re: Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-04-03 Thread Dave Fisher
On Apr 3, 2013, at 1:20 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Benson Margulies > wrote: >> ...Chris proposes that this >> committee recommend its own demise to the board, to be replaced, in >> large part, by the board itself. Every board member who has been heard >>

Re: [VOTE] S4 0.6.0 Incubating Release Candidate 3

2013-04-03 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Hi, Matthieu, It sounds like you folks are trying hard to get this right -- kudos! On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Matthieu Morel wrote: > 1/ about the content of LICENSE and NOTICE, is the following correct? > > - in the LICENSE file of the binary distribution, in addition to references > to

Re: committee-info.txt and the incubator PMC

2013-04-03 Thread sebb
On 3 April 2013 16:36, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > >> So how about having just historical info in the text file, and LDAP >> for current info? >> > > Isn't this the current rationale? I see the LDAP group answering the > question "Does the person A belong to group B now?

Re: [VOTE] S4 0.6.0 Incubating Release Candidate 3

2013-04-03 Thread Patrick Hunt
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Matthieu Morel wrote: Hey there, just back from vacation, hopefully Sebb can weigh in but here's my thinking: > We have 2 key questions, which I reproduce below: > > 1/ about the content of LICENSE and NOTICE, is the following correct? > > - in the LICENSE file o

Re: [VOTE] S4 0.6.0 Incubating Release Candidate 3

2013-04-03 Thread Matthieu Morel
Hello all, after getting valuable comments about our release candidate 3 for S4 0.6.0, we'd like to cut a new release candidate. However, we are still not sure about how to address the comments we received, and we cannot work on a new release candidate without understanding the proper actions

Re: [Shepherds] Incubator report reminders sent for Apr 2013

2013-04-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, the kafka project needs to clean up. Steps are described here: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#project-first-steps Cheers Christian On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Jun Rao wrote: > Could you remove Kafka from the incubator report since it already graduated > to a top l

Re: [Shepherds] Incubator report reminders sent for Apr 2013

2013-04-03 Thread Jun Rao
Could you remove Kafka from the incubator report since it already graduated to a top level project last Nov? Thanks, Jun On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry, I just realized I had replied in private and this is a comment for > general@. > > Regards, > Dave > > On

Re: committee-info.txt and the incubator PMC

2013-04-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: So how about having just historical info in the text file, and LDAP for current info? Isn't this the current rationale? I see the LDAP group answering the question "Does the person A belong to group B now?" and committee-info.txt answering other questions, like how

Re: Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-04-03 Thread Ross Gardler
On 3 April 2013 14:41, ant elder wrote: > On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > > > Thanks for the clarification, Ant. Is the documentation ignored? > Whenever I > > look through it, it seems like the problem is that it is incomplete and > > confusing. It's hardly a wonder people

Re: Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-04-03 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > Thanks for the clarification, Ant. Is the documentation ignored? Whenever I > look through it, it seems like the problem is that it is incomplete and > confusing. It's hardly a wonder people disagree. ;) (This is just a bit of > rhetoric. I har

Re: Process, policy and best practice

2013-04-03 Thread Rich Bowen
On Apr 1, 2013, at 6:28 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > As I see it, the primary attraction here is that we could end up with > *one* coherent body of documentation on policies and procedures, > available to project new and old. For whatever it's worth, I'd like to participate in such an effort i

Re: Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-04-03 Thread Noah Slater
Thanks for the clarification, Ant. Is the documentation ignored? Whenever I look through it, it seems like the problem is that it is incomplete and confusing. It's hardly a wonder people disagree. ;) (This is just a bit of rhetoric. I hardly mean to imply the documentation is responsible for the wh

Re: Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-04-03 Thread ant elder
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > As far as I understand your comment, Ant, you mean to say that he problem > is that there is too much variation in opinion and approach. (Primarily, I > understand, in relation to releases.) > > Hi Noah, i suggested that one of the problems was

Re: Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-04-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > ...Chris proposes that this > committee recommend its own demise to the board, to be replaced, in > large part, by the board itself. Every board member who has been heard > from so far has been less than enthusiastic... That's my case, an

Re: committee-info.txt and the incubator PMC

2013-04-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >>... The real question might be why this needs to be duplicated (I assume) >> between LDAP and a file - any advice from infra? > > It is not strictly duplicated. committee-info.txt contains historical > informati