On 11/24/2010 3:58 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
But this is like if you are working in an office in front of a
collegue : most of the time, you don't chit-chat, you work. And when
it comes to make a decision impacting the whole project, then the
discussion is moved to the ML.
In the Jena te
On 11/24/10 7:13 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
The premise of this discussion is that running Apache projects are
*permitted* to engage in real-time communications, so long as they
take due care to avoid community problems of exclusion and closed
decision making.
Did you see Greg's e-mail?
"Just b
Hi folks,
could you stop believing in a conspiracy taking place at the Apache Isis
incubator project where a bunch of Isis member plus a few obscure
mentors are trying to subvert the Apache Software Foundation by having a
Skype session?!
Get real - some of the concerns are justified and well
There's something we need to watch out for here about how the incubator
works. The incubator is a place for podling members to learn, and
learning is something *they* do. Our part is to provide encouragement
and guidance as appropriate, and to allow podlings to make mistakes.
That is an important p
Ian,
Cool -- I imagine this project could be rather useful for some of your
education projects.
-Dan
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 3:41 AM, Ian Boston wrote:
> +1
> Would be happy to help of you need any (and if I can find time)
> Ian
>
> On 23 Nov 2010, at 20:16, Dan Peterson wrote:
>
> > Hello all
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>> The premise of this discussion is that running Apache projects are
>> *permitted* to engage in real-time communications, so long as they
>> take due care to avoid community problems of exclusion and closed
>> decision making.
>
> Did you s
Hi Vincent,
That's great! I've added you as a Mentor.
-Dan
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Vincent Siveton wrote:
> +1
>
> @Dan if you need one more mentor, you could count me in.
>
> Vincent
>
> 2010/11/23 Dan Peterson :
> > Hello all,
> >
> > We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF
> The premise of this discussion is that running Apache projects are
> *permitted* to engage in real-time communications, so long as they
> take due care to avoid community problems of exclusion and closed
> decision making.
Did you see Greg's e-mail?
"Just bring a summary of discussion points ba
Hi Andrus,
Thanks for your support. I think this'll be a good home for Wave to grow and
mature.
I've taken the liberty of adding you on the mentor list. :)
Cheers,
-Dan
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> +1
>
> I am so happy that after all considerations and suggestions
> Ok its been nearly a week and there is overwhelming support for doing
> this so I have gone ahead and made an update to the PPMC guide to
> reflect this [policy change].
Let's remember to add this to next month's Board report.
--- Noel
+1
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On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
>
> The draft proposal is available at:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
> (for your convenience, a snapshot is also copied below)
+1
(a bit biased as
Hi Benson,
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> I find myself, for the first time, in the position of being the go-to
> mentor for a new launch. Last time around, the other mentors were so
> enthusiastic that I didn't have to do anything except type up the
> first three INFR
I find myself, for the first time, in the position of being the go-to
mentor for a new launch. Last time around, the other mentors were so
enthusiastic that I didn't have to do anything except type up the
first three INFRA JIRAs.
I'm trying to get my head wrapped around the IP clearance process.
Some reading the thread on the ISIS podling's use of Skype may feel
that I am dismissing their opinions or disregarding an established
policy.
To do penance for any perceived slight, and to make it perfectly clear
that it is my intention to respect established policy, I am starting
this thread for
I like your view on this.
I hope things are going well?
I now work in Groningen, the Netherlands.
Yeliz.
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Glen Daniels wrote:
> +1 as usual to Benson's extremely reasonable and pleasantly snarky viewpoint.
>
> While I do see the dangers of fragmenting the community
The lightwave project I was referring to is over at google code:
http://code.google.com/p/lightwave/
~Michael
On Nov 24, 2010, at 12:44 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
> On 24 Nov 2010, at 4:29 , Michael MacFadden wrote:
>
>> I agree, there are other wave implementations popping up, some of which
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> ...So, it is clear to me that the IPMC and the Foundation do *not* have
> an established consensus the forbids any podling from ever having a
> phone conference...
Absolutely agreed, in the same way that we cannot prevent people from
meet
Instead of continuing this thread, I'd invite any of you to start
watching the isis dev list, and report in if you see evidence of a
failure to respect the core values that underly this argument.
Isis has several mentors. I am only one. The mentors, in general, felt
that the project had a strong e
On 11/24/10 3:18 PM, Bernd Fondermann wrote:
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 15:02, Benson Margulies wrote:
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Bernd Fondermann
wrote:
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 16:16, Benson Margulies wrote:
I am nothing if not chronically disingenuous.
My first concern in responding
+1 (non-binding)
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With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Paul Lindner wrote:
> A hearty +1 from the designated champion to getting Wave into the
> Incubator. I've been especially im
A hearty +1 from the designated champion to getting Wave into the
Incubator. I've been especially impressed with the way the community
has rallied behind the open source implementation and know that it
will do well at Apache.
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 15:02, Benson Margulies wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Bernd Fondermann
> wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 16:16, Benson Margulies
>> wrote:
>>> I am nothing if not chronically disingenuous.
>>>
>>> My first concern in responding here is a process concern. As
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Bernd Fondermann
wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 16:16, Benson Margulies wrote:
>> I am nothing if not chronically disingenuous.
>>
>> My first concern in responding here is a process concern. As far as I
>> can tell, the Incubator PMC has not formally voted to f
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 16:16, Benson Margulies wrote:
> I am nothing if not chronically disingenuous.
>
> My first concern in responding here is a process concern. As far as I
> can tell, the Incubator PMC has not formally voted to forbid the use
> of real-time communications in podlings. Absent
+1 (non-binding)
Cheers
Daniel
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Dan Peterson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
>
> The draft proposal is available at:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
> (for your convenience, a snapshot is also cop
+1
Would be happy to help of you need any (and if I can find time)
Ian
On 23 Nov 2010, at 20:16, Dan Peterson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
>
> The draft proposal is available at:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
> (for your c
+1
@Dan if you need one more mentor, you could count me in.
Vincent
2010/11/23 Dan Peterson :
> Hello all,
>
> We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
>
> The draft proposal is available at:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
> (for your convenience, a snapshot i
+1
Regards, Ate
On 23/11/10 21:16, Dan Peterson wrote:
Hello all,
We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
The draft proposal is available at:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
(for your convenience, a snapshot is also copied below)
A wave is a hosted, live, co
+1 (non-binding)
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Andrus Adamchik
wrote:
> +1
>
> I am so happy that after all considerations and suggestions that were floated
> in the Wave community, you guys picked Apache as the place to develop Wave
> community and WIAB. Good luck and let me know if you ne
+1
I am so happy that after all considerations and suggestions that were floated
in the Wave community, you guys picked Apache as the place to develop Wave
community and WIAB. Good luck and let me know if you need extra mentors (you
already have 4, so I figured you are covered and didn't add m
+1 (non binding) loved wave, glad it's not going to die!
On Tuesday, November 23, 2010, Dan Peterson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator.
>
> The draft proposal is available at:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
> (for your convenience,
>
>
> Lightwave? http://www.newtek.com/lightwave/
No, he's referring to Torben Weis' lightwave:
http://code.google.com/p/lightwave/
--
Chris
iotawave.org
Singapore
On 24 Nov 2010, at 4:29 , Michael MacFadden wrote:
> I agree, there are other wave implementations popping up, some of which
> include "wave" in the name and some don't. "Lightwave" for example is one
> such project. I think that Apache Wave and the Wave in a Box product should
> be fine.
Li
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:26 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 22:45, Ralph Goers wrote:
>> On Nov 23, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 20:47, Ralph Goers
>>> wrote:
...
OK - Have they explicitly OK'd Apache Wave? While Apache Wave would
This sounds really interesting - it would be good to have an Apache Wave
project. We already have an implementation of the Wave Gadget API in Wookie
(and I contributed a new one recently in Node.js) so there could be some useful
crossover there.
On 24 Nov 2010, at 07:32, Christian Grobmeier wro
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