On Oct 23, 2007, at 1:46 PM, Kevan Miller wrote:
I took a peek at plexus and picocontainer mailing lists. One thing
of note is that there seems to have been little discussion on the
picocontainer lists about a move to Apache. Perhaps discussions
were offline, but it's not clear to me how the
On Oct 22, 2007, at 12:13 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
As mentioned previously, both containers are heavily used, both
have always lived as open source projects. Plexus has 17 Apache
committers, Pico has 4 so most of the participants are already
familiar with projects here.
[ ] +1 Accept Compo
On 10/24/07, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...= Initial Committers =
>
> * Assaf Arkin
> * Alex Boisvert
> * Matthieu Riou...
Considering the recent discussions about diversity, would it be ok for
you to include these people's company affiliations in the proposal?
-Bertrand
The stdcxx community has just successfully closed a vote to release
stdcxx 4.2.0. In accordance with the Releases section of the Incubation
Policy we request the permission of the Incubator PMC to publish the
tarball containing the release on the stdcxx Download page.
This vote will close in the
I'll volunteer...having done lot's of releases for Geronimo I have an
affinity for the little beast.
On Oct 23, 2007, at 4:52 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
On 10/23/07, Robert Burrell Donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Mentors
--
* Yoav Shapira
* Ross Gardler
I would p
Jim,
Thanks for this feedback. I think you raise a good point that one of
the goals of community building is discovering a community's true
synergies and strengths and that sometimes the right outcome is not a
single community. Where goals are mis-aligned then a respectful
change of dir
> Here is a proposal for Buildr incubation. Buildr is a simple and intuitive
> build system for Java projects written in Ruby (and based on Rake). The
> complete proposal is at [1] and also reproduced at the end of this e-mail.
>
> Feedback and questions are very welcome! Mentors volunteering too :
Hi,
Here is a proposal for Buildr incubation. Buildr is a simple and intuitive
build system for Java projects written in Ruby (and based on Rake). The
complete proposal is at [1] and also reproduced at the end of this e-mail.
Feedback and questions are very welcome! Mentors volunteering too :)
T
On 10/23/07, Robert Burrell Donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mentors
> --
>
> * Yoav Shapira
> * Ross Gardler
>
> I would prefer mentors who have not been involved with RAT. This will
> allow a more objective perspective. I doubt that supervision will be
> too great a burden.
+1
I took a peek at plexus and picocontainer mailing lists. One thing of
note is that there seems to have been little discussion on the
picocontainer lists about a move to Apache. Perhaps discussions were
offline, but it's not clear to me how their community, beyond Paul
Hammant, feels ab
On 10/23/07, Robert Burrell Donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal has been stable for a
> while now so i'd like to throw it open to final scrutiny before i call
> for a VOTE. (please don't vote yet ;-)
Looks like a solid proposal to me!
As far as the nam
He meant BSF, though Plexus can optionally use BSH as a component
factory.
On 23 Oct 07, at 11:48 AM 23 Oct 07, sebb wrote:
The Wiki proposal mentions that Composer has an optional dependency on
the Apache project "BSH".
I could not find an Apache project called BSH.
Is is then BeanShell (w
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal has been stable for a
while now so i'd like to throw it open to final scrutiny before i call
for a VOTE. (please don't vote yet ;-)
the name "RAT" has been discussed previously - see
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200710.mbox
On 10/22/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Janne,
>
> I'm copying the incubator general list for feedback from others with
> more experience in ICLA vs. Software Grant...
>
> On Oct 22, 2007, at 10:47 AM, Janne Jalkanen wrote:
>
> >> Perhaps you can recap the status of the code. W
The Wiki proposal mentions that Composer has an optional dependency on
the Apache project "BSH".
I could not find an Apache project called BSH.
Is is then BeanShell (which is not an Apache project) or should it be
"BSF" (which is Apache)?
Or perhaps something else entirely?
S
On 22/10/2007, Jas
On Oct 23, 2007, at 2:30 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
On 23 Oct 07, at 5:46 AM 23 Oct 07, Jim Jagielski wrote:
On Oct 22, 2007, at 4:55 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
On 22 Oct 07, at 10:36 AM 22 Oct 07, Jim Jagielski wrote:
On Oct 22, 2007, at 12:13 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
Plexus has 17 Apa
On 23 Oct 07, at 5:46 AM 23 Oct 07, Jim Jagielski wrote:
On Oct 22, 2007, at 4:55 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
On 22 Oct 07, at 10:36 AM 22 Oct 07, Jim Jagielski wrote:
On Oct 22, 2007, at 12:13 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
Plexus has 17 Apache committers, Pico has 4 so most of the
participa
On Oct 23, 2007, at 6:43 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
Noel,
I was there when it happened. It was actually the other way
around..Short story, the "independents" had trouble letting anyone
else work or suggest ideas which went against their own mental model
of how things should be. When i argued
Just one example of the community bending over back wards to
accomodate Jim and Jeremy
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg05118.html
Please search for "chianti" in the archives to get the background.
Basically the trunk was abandoned and the revolutionary "fork" was
accepted *JUST*
Noel,
FYI, I could plainly see who was working hard to co-exist and who
wasnt'. IMHO, the people who left clearly did not want to
play/participate. It was sacrilege to do anything that was against
their mental model of things had to work.
My 2 cents.
-- dims
On 10/23/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL
Noel,
I was there when it happened. It was actually the other way
around..Short story, the "independents" had trouble letting anyone
else work or suggest ideas which went against their own mental model
of how things should be. When i argued for a middle path vociferously,
they left.
-- dims
On
Paul Fremantle wrote:
> I think the PPMC needs this sort of concrete feedback.
And perhaps needs to consider that diversity means supporting a broader
community of interests.
--- Noel
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Jim Marino wrote:
> About seven months ago, BEA decided to pursue an alternative
> direction with the other active independents working on SCA
> at the time when our goals diverged from others in the community.
> Speaking for BEA, we made it clear on multiple occasions that
> while we wished Tusca
Matthieu Riou wrote:
> they did welcome enough independent committers while being in the
> incubator
> Attracting a large quantity of independent developers while being
> in the incubator is pretty hard
Yes, but it seems to be emerging that there *were* more independents, and
they have left to w
On Oct 22, 2007, at 4:55 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
On 22 Oct 07, at 10:36 AM 22 Oct 07, Jim Jagielski wrote:
On Oct 22, 2007, at 12:13 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
Plexus has 17 Apache committers, Pico has 4 so most of the
participants are already familiar with projects here.
But not all
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