Re: discussion of release of Apache Wicket 1.3.0-incubating-alpha

2007-04-12 Thread Alex Karasulu
On 4/12/07, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SNIP ... I'm not convinced we actually say (or have always consistently said) "REQUIRED to build a release". IIRC Apache Directory might have graduated without building a release. Sure it did. Version 0.8 of ApacheDS was released through the

Re: Mentors and members

2007-04-12 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Leo Simons wrote: > On Apr 10, 2007, at 7:46 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: > >> to actively lead in the discharge of their duties (listed above). > > I don't see that list. It's a confusing sentence to me. "Mentors work to > make sure no mentoring is needed, i.e. make sure that the podling > becomes

Re: discussion of release of Apache Wicket 1.3.0-incubating-alpha

2007-04-12 Thread Leo Simons
On Apr 4, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: On 4/4/07, Bertrand Delacretaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If there have been changes since the release was cut, a new release must IMHO be created, so that people can vote (on the wicket lists first, and then come back here) on the correct one.

Re: Mentors and members

2007-04-12 Thread Leo Simons
On Apr 10, 2007, at 7:46 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: I'm confused. I can imagine. I think everyone is confused. That's what you get when you try and write these process descriptions so formally, since the actual process is not as formal. The "A mentor is... a permanent member of the [ASF]"

Re: Mentors and members

2007-04-12 Thread Leo Simons
On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:33 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Bottom line, what is the *motivation* to have non-ASF-member Mentorships? We need all the help we can get. There's many people that volunteer to fill this mentoring role. Most of them do a good job. They may not always be Members. The

Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCFproposal (was: [Proposal] RCF - a rich component library for JSF)])

2007-04-12 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 4/10/07, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Craig L Russell wrote: > I'm confused. The Process Description [1] seems to be clear: > > The Mentor is automatically made a member of the Incubator PMC, and > reports to both the PMC and the Sponsor about your overall health and > suita

Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCFproposal (was: [Proposal] RCF - a rich component library for JSF)])

2007-04-12 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Ted Husted wrote: > On 4/11/07, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Cast a binding vote in the project? Yes, of course. Mentorship is a >> heavier >> hammer than that, when necessary. > > As a three-time Mentor, I would venture that anyone who mentors with a > hammer doesn't under

Re: Mentors and members (was: Re: Mentors On IPMC [WAS Re: [Vote] RCFproposal (was: [Proposal] RCF - a rich component library for JSF)])

2007-04-12 Thread Ted Husted
On 4/11/07, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cast a binding vote in the project? Yes, of course. Mentorship is a heavier hammer than that, when necessary. As a three-time Mentor, I would venture that anyone who mentors with a hammer doesn't understand the role :) -Ted. --

Re: WANTED: Another Mentor for QPid

2007-04-12 Thread Carl Trieloff
Brian, It would be fantastic to have you help us out in Qpid if you can make it happen. regards Carl. Brian McCallister wrote: On Apr 10, 2007, at 10:58 PM, Brian McCallister wrote: If someone can step up to help OpenJPA I will trade off :-) I haven't been a fantastic mentor for OpenJPA