[STATUS] (incubator) Wed Mar 30 23:46:18 2005

2005-03-30 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
APACHE INCUBATOR PROJECT STATUS: -*-indented-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2005-01-20 01:12:13 -0500 (Thu, 20 Jan 2005) $] Web site: http://Incubator.Apache.Org/ Wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ [note: the Web site is the 'official' documentation; the wiki

RE: Prepping for Derby graduation vote

2005-03-30 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Cliff Schmidt wrote: > Doesn't Derby have at least three independent committers? > There's Jeremy and the IBM folks...who's the other one? As far as I know, Jeremy is the only non-IBM Committer to Derby. --- Noel - To u

Re: Prepping for Derby graduation vote

2005-03-30 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:44:40 -0500, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cliff Schmidt wrote: > > the committer diversity issue has been raised as an issue by > > at least a couple folks. While it looks like they meet the > > requirement to have committers from at least three independent >

Re: Derby page updated

2005-03-30 Thread Jeremy Boynes
David Crossley wrote: Garrett Rooney wrote: I believe a 'svn up' needs to be run by someone on minutaur (perhaps in /www/incubator.apache.org?), then you need to wait for the sync job to copy the results over to the current web server (ajax?). Thanks for clarifying. I just did that 'svn up' so n

Re: Derby page updated

2005-03-30 Thread David Crossley
Garrett Rooney wrote: > > I believe a 'svn up' needs to be run by someone on minutaur (perhaps in > /www/incubator.apache.org?), then you need to wait for the sync job to > copy the results over to the current web server (ajax?). Thanks for clarifying. I just did that 'svn up' so now we need to

Re: Derby page updated

2005-03-30 Thread Garrett Rooney
Jeremy Boynes wrote: Garrett Rooney wrote: David Crossley wrote: Jeremy Boynes wrote: I updated the page and was waiting for site regeneration but thought I would give it a go. I already re-generated the page and committed it to svn yesterday. With the infrastructure changes is minotaur still t

Re: Derby page updated

2005-03-30 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Garrett Rooney wrote: David Crossley wrote: Jeremy Boynes wrote: I updated the page and was waiting for site regeneration but thought I would give it a go. I already re-generated the page and committed it to svn yesterday. With the infrastructure changes is minotaur still the right host to use?

Re: Derby page updated

2005-03-30 Thread Garrett Rooney
David Crossley wrote: Jeremy Boynes wrote: I updated the page and was waiting for site regeneration but thought I would give it a go. I already re-generated the page and committed it to svn yesterday. With the infrastructure changes is minotaur still the right host to use? I am confused about t

Re: Derby page updated

2005-03-30 Thread David Crossley
Jeremy Boynes wrote: > I updated the page and was waiting for site regeneration but thought I > would give it a go. I already re-generated the page and committed it to svn yesterday. > With the infrastructure changes is minotaur still the right host to use? I am confused about this too. In the

Derby page updated

2005-03-30 Thread Jeremy Boynes
I updated the page and was waiting for site regeneration but thought I would give it a go. With the infrastructure changes is minotaur still the right host to use? -- Jeremy Original Message Subject: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby from the incubator Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 21:13:26 -0

Re: Is graduation subject to veto?

2005-03-30 Thread Jim Jagielski
vetos must be justified... An unjustified veto is worthless. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Is graduation subject to veto?

2005-03-30 Thread Sam Ruby
Jim Jagielski wrote: On Mar 29, 2005, at 9:44 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Roy T. Fielding wrote: Er, just a vote -- there is no veto for this type of decision. Actually, althought it has never been necessary to address so far, I do recall discussion of a -1 veto option graduation. Yes, it is a poli

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby from the incubator

2005-03-30 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Jim Jagielski wrote: I vote -0. Ideally, a more diverse group of contributors would alleviate concerns, or at least some plan of action, post-graduation, which would address those concerns. There is a plan in place to do this which would continue after graduation. There are currently several people

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby from the incubator

2005-03-30 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Actually, I agree with you, and others have expressed the same concern, although without casting a vote. Adding new Committers is probably the #1 issue facing the Derby project, which has otherwise performed excellently to date. As even Jeremy pointed out, were IBM to withd

Re: Is graduation subject to veto?

2005-03-30 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Mar 29, 2005, at 9:44 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Roy T. Fielding wrote: Er, just a vote -- there is no veto for this type of decision. Actually, althought it has never been necessary to address so far, I do recall discussion of a -1 veto option graduation. Yes, it is a policy decision, but it e

Re: Is graduation subject to veto?

2005-03-30 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 04:44 AM 3/30/2005, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Roy T. Fielding wrote: > Er, just a vote -- there is no veto for this type of decision. Actually, althought it has never been necessary to address so far, I do recall discussion of a -1 veto option graduation. Yes, it is a policy decision, but it effec

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby from the incubator

2005-03-30 Thread Jim Jagielski
I vote -0. Ideally, a more diverse group of contributors would alleviate concerns, or at least some plan of action, post-graduation, which would address those concerns. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional com

Re: Is graduation subject to veto?

2005-03-30 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Roy T. Fielding wrote: Er, just a vote -- there is no veto for this type of decision. Actually, althought it has never been necessary to address so far, I do recall discussion of a -1 veto option graduation. Yes, it is a policy decision, but it effects importing code under

Re: Is graduation subject to veto?

2005-03-30 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > decision, but it effects importing code under the auspices of the > Foundation, and it isn't unreasonable to have a higher bar. I'd rather then have an escalation onto a higher bar (sush as a 2/3) or some deferal to board/members at the next general