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Am 26.08.2011 15:50, schrieb John Doty:
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> On Aug 25, 2011, at 6:33 PM, Dietmar Schmunkamp wrote:
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>> - From my point of view the major thing is to have one design source (even
>> with a multitude of attributes e.g. net_group = g1, net_length(g1) =
On Aug 25, 2011, at 6:33 PM, Dietmar Schmunkamp wrote:
> - From my point of view the major thing is to have one design source (even
> with a multitude of attributes e.g. net_group = g1, net_length(g1) = xxx
> mm, tolerance(g1) = 1 mm, ...etc) and drive simulation and board layout
> from this sing
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Am 24.08.2011 22:46, schrieb John Hudak:
>ummm, I think citing and expounding on the philosophical differences of
>one approach (integrated) versus another (multiple tool kits) is a nice
>amorphous description and somewhat akin to mental ma
On Aug 24, 2011, at 2:46 PM, John Hudak wrote:
Rudeness snipped.
> The
> philosophy of gEDA has already been established.
Kind of. But part of the misconception you have is that gEDA (as currently
defined) has a coherent philosophy. gEDA once referred only to gschem,
gnetlist, and associat
ummm, I think citing and expounding on the philosophical differences of
one approach (integrated) versus another (multiple tool kits) is a nice
amorphous description and somewhat akin to mental masturbation. The
philosophy of gEDA has already been established. What is more
importan
On 08/22/2011 11:29 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
The commercial package he wants to keep up with seems to be altium designer.
Oh, I guess that's why I referred his request to others. I like the
"radical flexibility" of gEDA tools without getting evangelical about it,
and KiCAD is closer to Alt
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 22:14 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 15:01 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> > Peter Clifton wrote:
>
> > > Unpacking the container format, separating out individual footprints
> > > from a library, identifying most of the binary record types within those
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 15:01 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> Peter Clifton wrote:
> > Unpacking the container format, separating out individual footprints
> > from a library, identifying most of the binary record types within those
> > footprints. It would take time and examples to verify we can k
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 08:42:26 +0100
Peter Clifton wrote:
> For converting "legacy" designs, an import from gerber might be more
> generally useful to our user base, and doesn't require decyphering
> unknown file formats. Admittedly this looses footprint information,
> but perhaps that isn't always
On Aug 24, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Jared Casper wrote:
> I chuckled at what this community would think of the comment, in
> response to "There are users who prefer separate dedicated
> applications to an integrated design environment.", "BTW. How many of
> these users have ever designed a PCB with more
Peter Clifton wrote:
> For converting "legacy" designs, an import from gerber might be more
> generally useful to our user base, and doesn't require decyphering
> unknown file formats. Admittedly this looses footprint information, but
> perhaps that isn't always an issue.
Sometimes I would like t
> No offense, but from all the stuff I've read from the gEDA base, various
> blog postings, and freelance how-tos, a common topic that always seems to
> come up is that with these tools and a knowledge of scripting languages, one
> can do just about anything.
There are two "camps" here. One push
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
>
> > Indeed. The posts to the list that I woke up to this morning took a
> > frighteningly KiCad-centric turn.
> >
> Well, this is, because apparently one of the kicad developers showed up.
> Is any of the geda devs going to join the OHR m
dont ya love moderated lists? lol
on a more serious note, yes, a path from altium would be huge, but in
all honesty, having tools that work and inter-operate would be much
better. After playing with KiCAD for a bit, they have a very nice
integrated tool suite that all works...and i
> Even conversion of old legacy Altium designs could be done given access
I expect there will be a growing demand for exit options for Altium
users once the full impact of their recent upheaval settles in. It
could benefit the gEDA community to adopt Altium refugees - they're
used to spending $4K
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 01:42 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> Peter Clifton wrote:
>
> > Even conversion of old legacy Altium designs could be done given access
> ^
> Is this a serious restriction?
> Would it be possible for a user of a current altium license t
Peter Clifton wrote:
> Even conversion of old legacy Altium designs could be done given access
^
Is this a serious restriction?
Would it be possible for a user of a current altium license to export
to this "old legacy" format?
> to known sample files and de
Jared Casper wrote:
>> I believe the KiCAD folks are also looking at this.
>> -John
>>
>>
> Indeed. The posts to the list that I woke up to this morning took a
> frighteningly KiCad-centric turn.
>
Well, this is, because apparently one of the kicad developers showed up.
Is any of the geda d
On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 18:29 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> I subscribed to the mailing list, too. And so did Larry Doolittle, who
> already
> wrote to the list. :-)
>
> The response by Javier Serrano was interesting:
> ( http://lists.ohwr.org/sympa/arc/foss-pcb/2011-08/msg3.html )
> The c
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:17 PM, John Hudak <[1]jjhu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I believe the KiCAD folks are also looking at this.
-John
Indeed. The posts to the list that I woke up to this morning took a
frighteningly KiCad-centric turn.
Jared
References
1. mailto:j
I believe the KiCAD folks are also looking at this.
-John
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak
<[1]kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de> wrote:
Kovacs Levente wrote:
>> CERN might come up with tip money for developers.
>> Anyone have the time to be in a committee?
>
Kovacs Levente wrote:
>> CERN might come up with tip money for developers.
>> Anyone have the time to be in a committee?
>
> I am very interested in this project. I don't really know what would be the
> tastks in the committee. Please let me know about any details. I subscribed to
> the mailing l
On 08/22/2011 04:20 AM, Kovacs Levente wrote:
Please let me know about any details. I subscribed to
the mailing list.
Levente
That, and the wiki at :
I would keep track of the results of discussion in
http://www.ohwr.org/projects/ohr-meta/wiki/Foss-pcb
Are what I know how to communicate wit
On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 20:36:30 -0500
John Griessen wrote:
> CERN might come up with tip money for developers.
> Anyone have the time to be in a committee?
I am very interested in this project. I don't really know what would be the
tastks in the committee. Please let me know about any details. I su
I'm swamped.
CERN might come up with tip money for developers.
Anyone have the time to be in a committee?
John Griessen
Original Message
Subject: [Fwd: Proposed plan]
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 01:24:46 +0200
From: Javier Serrano
To: John Griessen
Hi John,
Would you like to jo
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