On Aug 25, 2011, at 6:33 PM, Dietmar Schmunkamp wrote:

> - From my point of view the major thing is to have one design source (even
> with a multitude of attributes e.g. net_group = g1, net_length(g1) = xxx
> mm, tolerance(g1) = 1 mm, ...etc) and drive simulation and board layout
> from this single source. That also requires feedback of electrical
> properties of the board wires back into the design source (and by this
> into the simulation model).

I think the back-annotation approach is complex, messy, and has lots of 
problems.

For my ASIC design work, the layout contractor generates the final simulation 
netlists using the layout software (Calibre). I then compare simulations of 
that netlist with simulations of the (enormously simpler) netlist derived 
directly from the gEDA schematics. An actual schematic derived from the layout 
would be incomprehensible: all hierarchy is flattened and parasitic components 
vastly outnumber the intended ones.

I think the same considerations apply to boards: it would be good for the 
layout tools to be capable of generating simulation netlists. It doesn't make 
sense to me to to run the layout data back through schematic capture tools to 
get to simulation.

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
j...@noqsi.com




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