Re: gEDA-user: Speaker SPICE modeling with gschem and ng-spice/gnucap

2011-09-13 Thread al davis
On Monday 12 September 2011, Hannu Vuolasaho wrote: > Is it possible to do same thing? Input wav to simulator and > get speaker's output and hear it? I know it's not perfect > but it could be very helpful. Has someone done this before > and provide some hints, examples or links? If you can do some

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-16 Thread al davis
On Monday 16 May 2011, Steven Michalske wrote: > But lawyers can use that clause as a loophole to invalidate > legitimate patents. Minor side effect of "lawyers can use that clause as a loophole to invalidate ILLegitimate patents" ... which outnumber the ligitimate ones a million to one.

Re: gEDA-user: zener diode modeling

2011-04-20 Thread al davis
On Monday 18 April 2011, yamazakir2 wrote: > Does anybody have a nice and simple zener diode model they > would like to share? The model that I am using has trouble > with convergence in context of a complicated switching > circuit with ngspice. have you tried gnucap? You will need the spice-diod

Re: gEDA-user: [spice] capacitor current

2011-04-16 Thread al davis
On Saturday 16 April 2011, Levente Kovacs wrote: > I want to simulate my low pass filters. So far, I managed to > have my theoretical results. > > Now I want to know the currents of the capacitors vs. the > frequency. > > I remember that the best way is to put 0V voltage sources in > series of th

Re: gEDA-user: nice C++ (was Re: pcb plugin smartdisperse fails on load)

2011-02-25 Thread al davis
On Friday 25 February 2011, Larry Doolittle wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:32:13PM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > > > So, could you, pretty please, point me to some nice C++ > > > code. > > > > Sorry, the work I did back then was not OSS. I'll have to > > write some more "nice C++" for you :-) >

Re: gEDA-user: Soft and Hard symbols

2011-01-18 Thread al davis
> On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 21:14 -0500, al davis wrote: > > I don't know where that is done, or if it is done > > in a form that would be useful here, or whether there > > exists the code to go the other way (generate a schematic > > given a netlist and

Re: gEDA-user: multiple attributes

2011-01-17 Thread al davis
On Monday 17 January 2011, Stephan Boettcher wrote: > al davis writes: > > How about prefixing simulation attributes with a dot. > > No, please, use a proper namespace prefix, like > > spice- verilog- sim- > spice: verilog: sim: > > Backend namespaces, use n

Re: gEDA-user: multiple attributes

2011-01-17 Thread al davis
On Monday 17 January 2011, John Doty wrote: > I'm unhappy with tuning gschem/gnetlist to be especially > friendly to any specific downstream flow. Al's favorite > downstream tool is apparently Verilog, so that seems to be > what he wants to target, with every other flow having to > adapt. I'm unha

Re: gEDA-user: multiple attributes

2011-01-16 Thread al davis
It's well past time to realize that there is more to simulation than Spice. A schematic should be able to be used with a variety of simulators, and the netlister should take care of the differences. Symbols should not have anything specific to any output format. This is difficult considerin

Re: gEDA-user: FYI [Fwd: [Balloon] Balloon 4]

2011-01-16 Thread al davis
On Sunday 16 January 2011, John Griessen wrote: > On 01/15/2011 10:36 PM, al davis wrote: > > Unless I massively missed something, verilog is completely > > procedural. > > Really verilog is all in parallel, not procedural code, > unless you want to put some in with spe

Re: gEDA-user: FYI [Fwd: [Balloon] Balloon 4]

2011-01-15 Thread al davis
On Saturday 15 January 2011, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > I don't see how this could possibly work. Both, gschem and > altium contain a graphical representation of the circuit. > Unless I massively missed something, verilog is completely > procedural. Graphics information would be lost during the > p

Re: gEDA-user: FYI [Fwd: [Balloon] Balloon 4]

2011-01-15 Thread al davis
On Saturday 15 January 2011, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > I looked at lang_verilog_in.cc > Unfortunately, my c++ is not fluent enough to read the code > right away. This is aggravated by the lack of comments on > what the various code blocks do. Since I also don't know > verilog by heart, the whole

Re: gEDA-user: Soft and Hard symbols

2011-01-14 Thread al davis
> On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:32 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: > > Ideally (to be forward compatible with format changes), > > that plugin would use libgeda. If someone starts on this, > > please let us know via the lists + bug tracker ( > > https://launchpad.net/geda/+bugs ) if you find any API > > which is

Re: gEDA-user: FYI [Fwd: [Balloon] Balloon 4]

2011-01-14 Thread al davis
On Friday 14 January 2011, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Peter Clifton wrote: No. David Bisset wrote, on another list. Peter just passed it on to us. > >> It is intended that these will be published in Altium > >> format as that is the CAD package of choice for the > >> design process. > > Why no

Re: gEDA-user: Soft and Hard symbols

2011-01-14 Thread al davis
On Friday 14 January 2011, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Thu, 2011-01-13 at 19:41 -0500, al davis wrote: > > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:29 AM, al davis wrote: > > That's great. There is a long list of things that need to > > be done. Where do you want to start? > &g

Re: gEDA-user: Soft and Hard symbols

2011-01-13 Thread al davis
> On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:29 AM, al davis wrote: > > Both of these are areas where we could take the lead, but I > > need help to do that. I can't do it alone, and can't do > > it if people are fighting it. Does anyone want to help? On Wednesday 12 January 2

Re: gEDA-user: Soft and Hard symbols

2011-01-12 Thread al davis
> Dietmar Schmunkamp wrote: > > Start a design with gschem --> simulate it --> get it thru > > pcb --> extract physical paramaters from the layout --> > > OPTIMIZE* --> feedback to gschem --> restart the loop. On Friday 07 January 2011, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Unfortunately, at the current stat

Re: gEDA-user: series of gnetlist backend patches

2011-01-05 Thread al davis
On Monday 03 January 2011, Dan White wrote: > The Analog Rails tweaks to gnucap make parallel simulations > with hspice feasible from a common *.sch set. Their repo is > at > http://redmine.gnucapplus.org/ I could use some help with gnucap development. I have asked Analog Rails to officially par

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-26 Thread al davis
On Saturday 25 December 2010, Vanessa Ezekowitz wrote: > * If the part in question can usually be described by a > single value, for the purposes of the signal flow in the > schematic that is, then give it a default of "value=0". No. Zero is almost always wrong. The only sensible default value

Re: gEDA-user: Hierarchy Refdes and Component Values

2010-12-19 Thread al davis
On Friday 17 December 2010, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > I have a schematic with seven instances of a schematic, a > hierarchy. > > I want to give different values to the resistors in each of > the sub-circuits. > > For example, I have S1 thru S7. In S1, I want R1=100, in S2, > I want R1=1k, etc. >

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-15 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 15 December 2010, Michael Sokolov wrote: > ... by way of standard open source mailing list managers > detecting and automatically rejecting posts encoded in > base64. Just because Eudora on Windows can't cope with it? ___ geda-user mailing

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-15 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 15 December 2010, timecop wrote: > Funny you mention that, this email reads perfectly fine in my > closed-source email reader. Of course it does. You are using the same closed-source email reader as Andrew does. Now, how about a different closed-source email reader, like the one R

Re: gEDA-user: TRACKERS [was: Re: gEDA-dev: Dev list [was: Random thoughts onthe future interface of PCB]]

2010-12-10 Thread al davis
On Friday 10 December 2010, kai-martin knaak wrote: > al davis wrote: > > In gnucap, I always give contributors top priority, but if > > a patch comes in without advance discussion, often there > > is something wrong with it. > > Well, my three trials to contribute wer

Re: gEDA-user: TRACKERS [was: Re: gEDA-dev: Dev list [was: Random thoughts onthe future interface of PCB]]

2010-12-09 Thread al davis
On Thursday 09 December 2010, Stephen Ecob wrote: > We're hearing complaints that some submitted patches aren't > receiving enough attention, but there simply isn't enough > maintainer time available to give everyone as much attention > as they'd like. If submitted patches don't receive enough att

Re: gEDA-user: control verilog module parameter order when converting .sch and .sym with gnetlist?

2010-11-21 Thread al davis
On Sunday 21 November 2010, Paul Tan wrote: > Since most Verilog simulators (including Icarus Verilog) > support "EXPLICIT connection" method for the lower level > Module Instanciations, so it is not absolutely necessary > (although desirable) to match the Module portname order > with the Module in

Re: gEDA-user: Ben mode feature request

2010-11-01 Thread al davis
On Sunday 31 October 2010, Stefan Salewski wrote: > Can you please explain why we will always need the command > line for simulation in gEDA? (I have newer found the time > doing simulations...) Try this without a command line: Experimentally finding model parameters: http://gnucap.org/dokuwiki/d

Re: gEDA-user: passing parameters to a subckt

2010-10-24 Thread al davis
On Sunday 24 October 2010, c...@eugeneweb.com wrote: > I sapose that you could pass an argument to gnet-spice-sdb > (or set a variable) to clue it in on which spice variant to > target. You could go nuts with that. The only real standard in spice is back in the spice-2 days. Then they all evol

Re: gEDA-user: Newbie wondering about simulation

2010-10-24 Thread al davis
On Sunday 24 October 2010, Hannu Vuolasaho wrote: > Changing manually to X1 makes the simulation work but it > isn't really the Solution. Yes, it is the solution, for now. Ultimately, the solution is to move away from Spice format netlists. In Spice, the device type is determined by the first l

Re: gEDA-user: passing parameters to a subckt

2010-10-24 Thread al davis
On Sunday 24 October 2010, c...@eugeneweb.com wrote: > and have gnetlist spit out a line like this: > > XU3 10 9 0 POT VALUE=10k SET=0.5 > > and pot.mod could be something like: > > .SUBCKT POT 1 T 2 PARAMS: VALUE=1K SET=0.5 > RT 1 T {0.999 * VALUE * (1-SET) + 0.0005 * VALUE} > RB T 2 {0.999 * V

Re: gEDA-user: very backward time step?

2010-09-23 Thread al davis
On Tuesday 21 September 2010, Rubén Gómez Antolí wrote: > Gnucap 2009.12 is so stable, why not released? > > (In several days, I think even ask at debian maintainer to > include snapshots, at least, in experimental branch of > Debian.) The problem is with the build system. I spent most of Janua

Re: gEDA-user: very backward time step?

2010-09-21 Thread al davis
On Tuesday 21 September 2010, Matthew Wilkins wrote: > It seems like the values that he gave (10m 10 1) could be > interpreted either way, but in the plot image it shows > about 15 data points between the times 4.9219 and > 5.0781. That seems to correspond to 10 ms times steps, no? Could be ...

Re: gEDA-user: very backward time step?

2010-09-21 Thread al davis
On Tuesday 21 September 2010, Matthew Wilkins wrote: > You're specifying a 10 ms step size (first parameter in the > tran command), and it looks like that's what you're > getting. The period of a 60 Hz sine wave is 16.6 ms, so > you're getting fewer than 2 samples per cycle. Try changing > the s

Re: gEDA-user: very backward time step?

2010-09-21 Thread al davis
On Tuesday 21 September 2010, Chris Cole wrote: > I get a normal sine wave output, > but when the frequency increases, the wave changes > considerably and starts to turn into a triangle wave...I'm > not sure what I'm doing wrong, but this is strange. In the tran command (tran 10m 10 1) you asked

Re: gEDA-user: very backward time step?

2010-09-20 Thread al davis
On Friday 17 September 2010, Chris Cole wrote: > I'm trying to do a very simple power supply simulation with > gschem and I'm not getting very far. > I'm trying to do a bridge rectification of a 24 VAC supply to > DC current. I'm able to do a transient analysis for 10 > iterations before I get: >

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple pages

2010-08-18 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 18 August 2010, John Doty wrote: > Then go ahead and explain it in a single breath. And how does > this force you to hack the netlist? I don't want an argument. I want help making it better. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seu

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple pages

2010-08-18 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 18 August 2010, John Doty wrote: > Exactly what is the problem you experience? 1. There are many components that do not netlist properly. Every symbol must netlist correctly, no exceptions. There is more to simulation than simple spice circuits. 2. There are others that netlist p

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple pages

2010-08-18 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 18 August 2010, kai-martin knaak wrote: > > You have said many times how much you love LTspice, > > No I did not. I said, that I use it because using gnucap or > ngspice with gschem is such a hassle. When I last looked into > it, it took me much more time to get results with > gschem/

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple pages

2010-08-18 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 18 August 2010, Oliver King-Smith wrote: > I am under the probably incorrect impression that LtSpice is > actually a better than ngspice and gnucap. What do you > think the benefits are gnucap vs Ltspice? Better for what? You got that impression because somebody is promoting it and

Re: gEDA-user: Multiple pages

2010-08-18 Thread al davis
On Tuesday 17 August 2010, kai-martin knaak wrote: > I tend to do simulation with ltspice. You have said many times how much you love LTspice, and how much you dislike the gEDA environment for simulation. How about stepping forward to do something about it? I have asked many times over many ye

Re: gEDA-user: Commercial CAD, land pattern generators report

2010-08-14 Thread al davis
On Saturday 14 August 2010, Armin Faltl wrote: > I think I have the following options then: > > a) fix the bug myself and reinvent your convenience function > which is questionable > b) re-release my library under LGPL and ask you to resubmit > the patch with same license > c) open source or shr

Re: gEDA-user: Commercial CAD, land pattern generators report

2010-08-13 Thread al davis
On Friday 13 August 2010, Armin Faltl wrote: > I can't give an example on the intricacies of GPL v3 of the > top of my head, but wanted to write the following to RFS > regarding putting libraries under GPL instead of LGPL: > "I want to contribute or give away what I want to and keep > my own what

Re: gEDA-user: Commercial CAD, land pattern generators report

2010-08-13 Thread al davis
On Friday 13 August 2010, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > can you give an example, please? Under GPL-3 you can't make a contribution that applies one of your own patents, then sue the users of the package for patent infringement. ___ geda-user mailing lis

Re: gEDA-user: New Poster - Trying to get ngspice up and running with gschem

2010-08-03 Thread al davis
On Tuesday 03 August 2010, Bill Gray wrote: > To keep things as simple as possible, I am trying to simulate > a voltage follower using an LM358 opamp. So far, I have > been met only with abject failure, and my ability to > continue investing time at this rate is waning... I have to > get this proj

Re: gEDA-user: gcshem to magic

2010-08-03 Thread al davis
On Sunday 01 August 2010, Oliver King-Smith wrote: > I have some analog circuits in gschem that I want to layout > in the magic vlsi tool. Is there a good way to go from > gschem to magic? Not that I know of. It is a rather difficult task to program. Magic is really a very simple chip layout

Re: gEDA-user: anyone import into pcb a kicad netlist? I have kicad schematics and modules for all my parts but want to use the topo autorouter in pcb

2010-07-09 Thread al davis
On Friday 09 July 2010, al davis wrote: > > Can you provide links to the source of existing plugins? > > Gnucap source, the latest development snapshot. > http://www.gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-12-07.tar.gz Forgot something ... The existing plugins are lang_*.cc . One

Re: gEDA-user: anyone import into pcb a kicad netlist? I have kicad schematics and modules for all my parts but want to use the topo autorouter in pcb

2010-07-09 Thread al davis
On Friday 09 July 2010, kai-martin knaak wrote: > > So ... any volunteers? > > What programming language? C++ > Can you provide links to the source of existing plugins? Gnucap source, the latest development snapshot. http://www.gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-12-07.tar.gz There's also some docume

Re: gEDA-user: anyone import into pcb a kicad netlist? I have kicad schematics and modules for all my parts but want to use the topo autorouter in pcb

2010-07-09 Thread al davis
On Thursday 08 July 2010, joshua wojnas wrote: > anyone import into pcb a kicad netlist? I have kicad > schematics and modules for all my parts but want to use the > topo autorouter in pcb Not that I know of, for now, but I want to take the opportunity to ask for help on a project that could prov

Re: gEDA-user: RMS Waveform of a signal

2010-06-16 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 16 June 2010, Rubén Gómez Antolí wrote: > I have a signal with harmonics and distorsion and I want to > get the RMS waveform of it. > > I check some tools, including engines and post-proccesors, > with no success: Oscopy, Ngspice, Gnucap, Octave, KJWaves. > > Anyones knows or have

Re: gEDA-user: Microwave simulation

2010-04-29 Thread al davis
On Thursday 29 April 2010, ignacio.dieg...@estumail.ucm.es wrote: > how can i perform scattering S-parameter analysis with gEDA? > Can i create a model from a s2p (touchstone) file model? Nothing with gEDA that does it directly and is ready to go. Your best bet is probably "Qucs". It's GUI dri

Re: gEDA-user: passing parameters to a subckt

2010-04-29 Thread al davis
On Sunday 25 April 2010, kai-martin knaak wrote: > 6) Opamps: > a) An ideal opamp with essentially infinite > amplification, infinite slew rate, zero bias current, no > input offset, etc. Here's an op-amp: * Generic op-amp behavioral model .subckt opamp (out+ out- in+ in-) .param gain=

Re: gEDA-user: passing parameters to a subckt

2010-04-25 Thread al davis
On Sunday 25 April 2010, kai-martin knaak wrote: > al davis wrote: > > Ah .. there's a good idea .. "don't have to be exact" .. > > they never are Not detailed, but just good enough > > for a beginner. .. Now we need a volunteer to

Re: gEDA-user: passing parameters to a subckt

2010-04-24 Thread al davis
On Saturday 24 April 2010, Armin Faltl wrote: > I can't "make" the list, but can tell you what I use: > > - resistor > - potentiometer > - capacitor > - inductor > - diode (including Zener, Schottky,... ) > - bipolar transistors > - MOSFETs > - op-amp > - Schmitt-trigger > - logic gates (NAND), so

Re: gEDA-user: passing parameters to a subckt

2010-04-24 Thread al davis
On Saturday 24 April 2010, kai-martin knaak wrote: > There should not be a need to search for specific models for > getting started with basic circuits in the first place. The > models don't have to be exact. But they need to be available > right away. > Ah .. there's a good idea .. "don't

Re: gEDA-user: A little puzzled about the purpose of gschem

2010-04-24 Thread al davis
On Saturday 24 April 2010, Link wrote: > I hadn't intended for anyone to interpret it that way, and > I'm sorry if you interpreted that as bashing gEDA. Perhaps > my choice of words was rather unfortunate. Apology accepted. > What I intended to is that one component (the simulator) of > LTSp

Re: gEDA-user: passing parameters to a subckt

2010-04-24 Thread al davis
On Saturday 24 April 2010, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Please do so. > Lack of models is a major road block to get started with > simulation. Once over the new users stage, more models will > help to make even more. > > The more models in the quiver, the more gnucap users, the > more new model

Re: gEDA-user: passing parameters to a subckt

2010-04-23 Thread al davis
On Saturday 24 April 2010, Andrzej wrote: > Do you have any plans for releasing the new version? If so, > what would be its scope. I'm afraid that if it is going to > include all the planned features (which are pretty > ambitious, I must admit), it will remain a development > version forever.

Re: gEDA-user: A little puzzled about the purpose of gschem

2010-04-23 Thread al davis
On Friday 23 April 2010, Link wrote: > Eh? > Suppose you had instead said: === > .. I suggest > using Eagle through Darwine. In my personal experience, > Eagle is a lot better than geda, and > it is definitely an easier workflow. === Is this any different? No.

Re: gEDA-user: passing parameters to a subckt

2010-04-23 Thread al davis
On Friday 23 April 2010, D T wrote: > Thank you Al. Just for the record: ngspice worked; gnucap > didn't. Details follow. > > The directions from the subckt section of the NGSPICE User > Manual > (http://ngspice.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/ngspic > e/ngspice/ng-spice-manuals/manual.pd

Re: gEDA-user: passing parameters to a subckt

2010-04-23 Thread al davis
On Friday 23 April 2010, D T wrote: > Hi,I have the feeling this has been a topic here already. > Nevertheless, is there a way to pass parameters to а subckt > for spice3f5/ngspice/gnucap in linux similar to what PSpice > and LTSpice have? > Of course there is. Well .. not spice 3f5 but gnuca

Re: gEDA-user: A little puzzled about the purpose of gschem

2010-04-22 Thread al davis
On Thursday 22 April 2010, Link wrote: > However, if you want a quick, graphical SPICE, I suggest > using LTSpice through Darwine. In my personal experience, > LTSpice's simulator is a lot better than ngspice/gnucap, and > it is definitely an easier workflow than > gschem->gattrib->gnetlist->ng

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-08 Thread al davis
On Thursday 08 April 2010, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > This is one of the strange consequences of the common law > system. In the rest of the world, where civil law is > applied, ignorance of the delinquent does not diminish the > forfeit. > It isn't law that you could be ignorant of. It's a "

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 07 April 2010, Dave McGuire wrote: >Ok, that's fine by me, as it's your list. But could you > explain how it could be dangerous? That suggestion sounds > quite ludicrous to me. In general, it really does present a huge legal risk, so I agree with the policy. In this case,

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 07 April 2010, Bert Timmerman wrote: > Do not discuss patents here please ! Did you notice the date? (1934) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 07 April 2010, Stuart Brorson wrote: > > Do you foresee any other difficulties? ... aside from > > simulating a hydraulic circuit with spice or generating a > > layout. > > Actually, my first thought was: What kinds of simulations > (if any) does one do in hydraulics? Are there an

Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem

2010-03-16 Thread al davis
On Monday 15 March 2010, Dave McGuire wrote: > On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:32 AM, Dan McMahill wrote: > >>> With the help of Ivan I'm writing a viewer, oscopy > >>> (http://repo.or.cz/w/oscopy.git) based draft #4 of this > >>> page: > >>> http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:data_plotting_improvements > >> >

Re: gEDA-user: NE 555 and simulation issue

2010-03-08 Thread al davis
On Tuesday 02 March 2010, Peter Clifton wrote: > Gnucap is another advanced simulation environment which might > be interesting. It is different to spice, but can accept > spice syntax and models etc.. Again, milage will vary as to > how well it works with a given model - and it is by no means >

Re: gEDA-user: TO-92 Best Practices

2010-03-03 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 03 March 2010, Dave McGuire wrote: > > Maybe they are like me and don't have the eyesight, > > equipment or dexterity to solder anything smaller than > > TO92 parts? > >We've had these neat things called "magnifying glasses" on > the market for at least a few months now. And

Re: gEDA-user: NE 555 and simulation issue

2010-03-02 Thread al davis
On Tuesday 02 March 2010, Geoff Swan wrote: > It has been my experience that circuit modeling tools > although useful are not able to negate the need to > understand the low level principles of the underlying > circuit. The better you understand the physics of what is > going on the more value

Re: gEDA-user: I am such a troll for posting to slashdot

2010-02-28 Thread al davis
On Saturday 27 February 2010, Bob Paddock wrote: > The other thing that is holding back gEDA Schematics is the > lack of available publication quality symbols. If I'm doing > a PCB I use gEDA. If I'm after a nice looking schematic I > use XCircuit. I'd like to be able to have it both ways, a >

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA user: gnetlist -gdrc buffer overflow and gnetlist -gspice-sdb killed

2010-02-28 Thread al davis
On Sunday 28 February 2010, John Doty wrote: > Ah, but it has an open interface we can use. A great strength > of gEDA is that the tools play well with other tools, > whether they are part of gEDA or not. I don't care how many proprietary tools you can leverage by starting the schematic on gsc

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA user: gnetlist -gdrc buffer overflow and gnetlist -gspice-sdb killed

2010-02-27 Thread al davis
On Saturday 27 February 2010, John Doty wrote: > It looks like you're using the kind of hierarchy suitable for > a printed circuit flow, not a SPICE/ASIC flow. I suggest > first reading the excellent tutorial at > http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/SPICE/intro.html. > Ouch .. That was written 6 year

Re: gEDA-user: Eagle to gEDA conversion path??

2010-02-24 Thread al davis
On Tuesday 23 February 2010, Dave N6NZ wrote: > Really? Is there a use for gEDA->Eagle? Lots of reasons. Whether you like it or not, it is popular. Some people will insist on it. If gEDA is ever to replace Eagle, there needs to be a migration path both ways. If Free/open-source is ever to m

Re: gEDA-user: analog/code co-simulation and schematics and netlists for silicon

2010-02-23 Thread al davis
On Tuesday 23 February 2010, John Griessen wrote: > Al, are you saying that Icarus verilog would run along side > of gnucap once that interface is ready? Icarus has two key parts .. A compiler, and a virtual machine. In its normal use, the compiler generates code for the virtual machine, then

Re: gEDA-user: analog/code co-simulation and schematics and netlists for silicon

2010-02-23 Thread al davis
On Tuesday 23 February 2010, John Griessen wrote: > Anyone have any ideas you'd like mentioned to him? Questions > I should ask? I'm just planning on telling him the status of > verilog-ams backend of gnetlist and that it can run some > simulations from a netlist -- the way it needs to be for >

Re: gEDA-user: Eagle to gEDA conversion path??

2010-02-22 Thread al davis
On Monday 22 February 2010, Dave N6NZ wrote: > Is there any automated Eagle to gEDA conversion path? > > (He says hopefully, but knowing it's highly unlikely.) No .. but since you mention it, it is time to ask again for help in making something that will do this. I proposed a translator

Re: gEDA-user: why separate xgsch2pcb?

2010-02-09 Thread al davis
On Tuesday 09 February 2010, Peter Clifton wrote: > Not for a GUI, it isn't. Seriously. Right concept, bad > integration. > A GUI is just a visual aid. If you have junk under the hood, and hide it with a GUI, you just have more junk. ___ geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: OT: Latex

2010-02-07 Thread al davis
On Sunday 07 February 2010, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Is this intentional, > or just due to a lack of developer cycles? We are waiting for you to do it. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/

Re: gEDA-user: very simple gnucap simulation

2010-02-04 Thread al davis
On Thursday 04 February 2010, Chris Cole wrote: > and gwave shows up with correct Vin and Vout parameters, but > no data is graphed? > The plot would be too cluttered if it showed everything. You need to drag the signal you want to see over to where you want to see it. ___

Re: gEDA-user: very simple gnucap simulation

2010-02-03 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 03 February 2010, Chris Cole wrote: > gnucap> tran 1s 10s > > #Time > 0. > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > > Any suggestions? > You need to specify what to print first. Befor

Re: gEDA-user: Parts Manager Working Document

2010-01-26 Thread al davis
On Friday 08 January 2010, Edward Hennessy wrote: > I created a working document for a gEDA parts manager on the > gEDA wiki. > > http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:gparts_dd > > If anyone has feedback or specific requirements, please > provide feedback to geda-dev or geda-user mailing > lists. I

Re: gEDA-user: Parts Manager Working Document

2010-01-19 Thread al davis
> On Jan 19, 2010, at 3:41 AM, Florian Teply wrote: > > Anything else to add?? > I guarantee you will leave something out, and that you will include some useless stuff. Just make sure the design is such that fields can be added and removed in the future without breaking anything. Same goes fo

Re: gEDA-user: teardrop compiling installation,

2010-01-03 Thread al davis
On Sunday 03 January 2010, DJ Delorie wrote: > You need to get the sources for PCB - installing a > binary-only package is not enough to let you build plugins. In the next official release of gnucap, installing a binary-only package IS enough to build plugins. That's true of the development sn

gEDA-user: gnucap development snapshot 2009-12-07

2009-12-07 Thread al davis
There is a new development snapshot available ... http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-12-07.tar.gz Optional plugin files: http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-12-07-models-bsim.tar.gz http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-12-07-models-jspice3-2.5.tar.gz http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-12-07-mod

Re: gEDA-user: trying to compile gwave 20090213

2009-11-17 Thread al davis
On Monday 16 November 2009, KURT PETERS wrote: > What do you intend to use gwave for? Is it for viewing SPICE > output? Some people use it for Spice output. Some people use it for Gnucap output. It fits very well with running Gnucap interactively. I think most gnucap/gwave users are not u

gEDA-user: gnucap development snapshot 2009-11-10

2009-11-10 Thread al davis
There is a new development snapshot available ... http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-11-10.tar.gz Optional plugin files: http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-11-10-models-bsim.tar.gz http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-11-10-models-jspice3-2.5.tar.gz http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-11-10-mod

Re: gEDA-user: gnucap development snapshot 2009-09-28

2009-09-28 Thread al davis
On Monday 28 September 2009, A.Burinskiy wrote: > I have difficulty getting raw file as an output of simulation > using version that is shipped with Fedora 11. Does > something changed since that time? Or how I could get raw > file out of simulation? (I'm going to try big simulation > that pro

gEDA-user: gnucap development snapshot 2009-09-28

2009-09-28 Thread al davis
There is a new development snapshot available ... http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-09-28.tar.gz Optional plugin files: http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-09-28-models-bsim.tar.gz http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-09-28-models-jspice3-2.5.tar.gz http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-09-28-mod

gEDA-user: gnucap development snapshot 2009-09-22

2009-09-22 Thread al davis
There is a new development snapshot available ... http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-09-22.tar.gz Optional plugin files: http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-09-22-models-bsim.tar.gz http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-09-22-models- jspice3-2.5.tar.gz http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-09-22-mo

Re: gEDA-user: Library of gnucap and ngspice compatible models?

2009-09-16 Thread al davis
On Tuesday 15 September 2009, asom...@gmail.com wrote: > I, and judging from the mailing lists and forums many others, > are frustrated by the difficulty of finding spice models that > are compatible with open-source circuit simulators. Yes. It's a problem. It's the kind of problem that will r

gEDA-user: gnucap development snapshot 2009-09-09

2009-09-09 Thread al davis
There is a new development snapshot available ... http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-09-09.tar.gz Optional plugin files: http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-09-09-models-bsim.tar.gz http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-09-09-models-jspice3-2.5.tar.gz http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-09-09-mod

gEDA-user: gnucap development snapshot 2009-08-22

2009-08-23 Thread al davis
There is a new development snapshot available ... http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-08-22.tar.gz Optional plugin files: http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-08-22-models-bsim.tar.gz http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-08-22-models-jspice3-2.5.tar.gz http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-08-22-mod

gEDA-user: gnucap development snapshot 2009-08-19

2009-08-20 Thread al davis
There is a new development snapshot available ... http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-08-19.tar.gz Optional plugin files: http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-08-19-models-bsim.tar.gz http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-08-19-models- jspice3-2.5.tar.gz http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-08-19-mo

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister

2009-08-15 Thread al davis
On Saturday 15 August 2009, r wrote: > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 5:12 AM, al davis wrote: > > A netlister needs to work for all symbols. No exceptions. > > Why? Should it work even for symbols without models or > incompatible models (e.g. verilog RTL in an analog AC > sim

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister

2009-08-14 Thread al davis
On Saturday 01 August 2009, A.Burinskiy wrote: > And, finally, me, as a user, will not be happy to change the > script each time I add new symbol! Good thing you mentioned it. Unfortunately, the Spice format is very irregular, so dealing with it is pure hell. That is one of the reasons for mov

gEDA-user: gnucap development snapshot 2009-08-13

2009-08-14 Thread al davis
There is a new development snapshot available ... http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-08-13.tar.gz Optional plugin files: http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-08-13-models-bsim.tar.gz http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-08-13-models-jspice3-2.5.tar.gz http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-08-13-mod

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-09 Thread al davis
On Saturday 01 August 2009, Bob Paddock wrote: > http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/01/2114210/Cheap-Cross-P >latform-Electronic-Circuit-Simulation-Software?from=rss > > "Cheap, Cross-Platform Electronic Circuit Simulation > Software? > > dv82 writes "I teach circuits and electronics at the > und

Re: gEDA-user: Progress with unified build

2009-08-08 Thread al davis
On Saturday 08 August 2009, igor2 wrote: > National or otherwise local standards. I know someone who > would be really angry at me if I used the --/\/\/-- resistor > symbol instead of the -[]- one, and of course no cad software > can come with symbols for all possible components drawn for > all pos

Re: gEDA-user: KJWave

2009-07-27 Thread al davis
On Monday 27 July 2009, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > I have tried using both gnucap and ngspice using KJWaves, > neither seems to be able to find the 1N4004 diode model Google for it. Neither supplies a model library. It's a lot of work to keep it up to date. So, you need to search the web for t

gEDA-user: gnucap development snapshot 2009-07-23

2009-07-26 Thread al davis
There is a new development snapshot available ... http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-07-23.tar.gz Optional plugin files: http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-07-23-models-bsim.tar.gz http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-07-23-models-jspice3-2.5.tar.gz http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-07-23-mod

Re: gEDA-user: Learning Spice: TwoStageAmp example

2009-07-23 Thread al davis
On Thursday 23 July 2009, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > al davis wrote: > > On Monday 20 July 2009, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > >> Also, I would appreciate it if someone could point > >> me to a tutorial or sample project that shows how > >> one can do spice simu

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