Re: gEDA-user: How to find which specific part of a PCB is shorted?

2011-09-02 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Unfortunately, the highlighting just tells you WHICH nets are shorted, not where they are shorted. I tried deleting the objects in question which highlight orange. Now it just highlights some more objects orange indicating 3.3V and ground are shorted somewhere. Is there any way to

gEDA-user: How to find which specific part of a PCB is shorted?

2011-08-31 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I am getting these messages: Warning! Net "3V3plus" is shorted to net "GND" Warning! Net "GND" is shorted to net "3V3plus" The 3.3V bus is used all over the board. How can I locate specifically which part is shorted? It must be something I placed recently, but I do not have an und

Re: gEDA-user: Crash when rotating whole board

2011-06-26 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Bump. Not a major problem but would be nice to see fixed. Anyone know what could cause this? On 11 June 2011 22:49, Thomas Oldbury <[1]toldb...@gmail.com> wrote: Segmentation fault occurred when I attempted to rotate an entire board (in the buffer)

Re: gEDA-user: PCB head fails with ***MEMORY-ERROR***

2011-06-03 Thread Thomas Oldbury
This might explain my problem with PCB+GL maybe it's just a general problem with PCB? I have noticed that PCB can eat up about 3 GB after a few hours of routing. On 3 June 2011 14:41, Kai-Martin Knaak <[1]kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de> wrote: Andrew Poelstra wrote: > Use gdb

Re: gEDA-user: Jumpers on single layer PCBs

2011-05-31 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Double sided boards are great, but not so great when the product is supposed to cost only $3/each, after an MSP430, mains power supply, heatsink, triac etc. On 31 May 2011 22:09, Levente Kovacs <[1]leventel...@gmail.com> wrote: On Tue, 31 May 2011 21:59:04 +0100 Thomas O

Re: gEDA-user: Jumpers on single layer PCBs

2011-05-31 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Oh. Thanks anyway. Any hack-ish way to add this in? (Because I'd like each jumper to have a refdes and BOM entry if possible.) On 31 May 2011 21:44, DJ Delorie <[1]d...@delorie.com> wrote: > Does PCB have any support for adding jumper components, where the > pins would essentially

Re: gEDA-user: Perl

2011-05-31 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Python! On 31 May 2011 11:26, Jim Lynch <[1]j...@k4gvo.com> wrote: On 05/27/2011 11:54 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: This is more anecdotal than anything else... I'm a Perl fan myself. (shudder) Javascript! ___ geda-user

gEDA-user: Jumpers on single layer PCBs

2011-05-31 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Presently I use a second layer (such as a "jumper" layer) to draw on jumpers for single layer FR4 PCBs, however this is cumbersome; and it doesn't support zero ohm SMT resistors. Does PCB have any support for adding jumper components, where the pins would essentially be shorted (the

Re: gEDA-user: Task list for: Solving the light/heavy symbol problem

2011-05-26 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Another plus for Python. Such a nice language to code in IMHO. On 26 May 2011 21:22, Geoff Swan <[1]shinobi.j...@gmail.com> wrote: +1 python :) On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Andrew Poelstra <[1][2]as...@sfu.ca> wrote: On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:56:40AM -0400, DJ De

Re: gEDA-user: translucent tracks in PCB-head!

2011-05-20 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I find it immensely useful, even on a 2-layer board, but when routing a 4-layer board it made it so much easier. I used to have to check all the layers, even the ones with planes, to see if I had hit another layer. Thanks Peter. ___ geda-use

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-18 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Is there a Python api for gEDA? Because that would be really nice... On 18 May 2011 20:56, Stefan Salewski <[1]m...@ssalewski.de> wrote: On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 19:26 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Russell Shaw wrote: > > > I think Scheme could be made much more attractive in

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-18 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Can I enter my own project Super OSD? [1]http://code.google.com/p/super-osd On 18 May 2011 03:25, Kai-Martin Knaak <[2]k...@lilalaser.de> wrote: Stefan Salewski wrote: > While gEDA/PCB has some serious > users and a large list of projects done with gEDA, KiCAD users seems

Re: gEDA-user: PCB GL Memory leak

2011-05-14 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I didn't have it from the last git, but I haven't compiled the PCB+gl branch without gl yet. On 14 May 2011 15:43, Levente Kovacs <[1]leventel...@gmail.com> wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 10:59:57 +0100 Thomas Oldbury <[2]toldb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Af

gEDA-user: Pressing "=" key causes PCB to freeze for a few minutes

2011-05-14 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I have not yet figured out what the "=" key does in PCB, but whenever it gets pressed, the program freezes for a few minutes. Unfortunately, on my laptop keyboard it is very close to the delete key, so this leads to a lot of frustration. How do I turn it off? _

gEDA-user: PCB GL Memory leak

2011-05-14 Thread Thomas Oldbury
After using PCB+gl for more than an hour or so on a basic 4-layer board, it is using nearly 3.5 GB of memory, slowing the system to a crawl and forcing it to page a lot of data. Is anyone else experiencing this issue? ___ geda-user mailing l

gEDA-user: pcb+gl minor polygons glitch

2011-05-11 Thread Thomas Oldbury
On my ThinkPad X201, I am encountering a minor issue with PCB+GL... Not a show stopper, but a bit annoying. I notice that when I move the cursor, occasionally a random triangle extending from the middle of the board to the outer edge will be highlighted. I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 and th

Re: gEDA-user: pcb+gl

2011-05-11 Thread Thomas Oldbury
It works. Thanks! :) On 11 May 2011 21:51, Thomas Oldbury <[1]toldb...@gmail.com> wrote: Ah, problem solved... needed to cd into the directory. On 11 May 2011 21:31, Russell Dill <[2]russ.d...@asu.edu> wrote: Did the clone succeed? Did you cd into the cloned r

Re: gEDA-user: pcb+gl

2011-05-11 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Ah, problem solved... needed to cd into the directory. On 11 May 2011 21:31, Russell Dill <[1]russ.d...@asu.edu> wrote: Did the clone succeed? Did you cd into the cloned repo? On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Thomas Oldbury <[1][2]toldb...@gmail.com> wrote

Re: gEDA-user: pcb+gl

2011-05-11 Thread Thomas Oldbury
lt;[1]pc...@cam.ac.uk> wrote: On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 16:51 +0100, Thomas Oldbury wrote: > I've heard a lot about this pcb+gl and I like it... and it turns out I >fetched my git a few days from the enabling of it, so I think I missed >the bus for it... In

gEDA-user: Adding inner polygons to a plane

2011-05-11 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Sometimes, I want to add an inner polygon area to a plane in PCB. The area might be a power supply which only has to cover a small area; e.g. 1.8V in a predominantly 3.3V area. However, if I just draw a polygon on top of the plane, there is no cut-out formed and I get shorts. To do w

Re: gEDA-user: pcb+gl

2011-05-11 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Nope... rat lines are solid. I checked thisversion out around 2nd May. On 11 May 2011 17:27, Kai-Martin Knaak <[1]kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de> wrote: Thomas Oldbury wrote: > I've heard a lot about this pcb+gl and I like it... and it turns out I > fetched

gEDA-user: pcb+gl

2011-05-11 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I've heard a lot about this pcb+gl and I like it... and it turns out I fetched my git a few days from the enabling of it, so I think I missed the bus for it... So, how do I enable it for the latest git? Is there a compile-time flag? Thanks, Tom ___

Re: gEDA-user: pcb: Track routing strategies and tips

2011-05-11 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I start off with schematics. People underestimate the need for a clear schematic. On the schematics, I tend to place components approximately where they will appear on the PCB. This gives me an idea of how traces are to be routed. I divide my schematics into virtual blocks - not actu

Re: gEDA-user: Refresh all polygons

2011-05-10 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Here is one way to break it that works 100% of the time: 1. Highlight only one layer and the top side components. The layer must have a plane or large polygon area for the bug to be easily visible. 2. Move that layer and the components. 3. Hit Undo or "U", notice polygon has holes wh

gEDA-user: Refresh all polygons

2011-05-10 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Sometimes when moving polygons, PCB gets confused and leaves the holes of old objects. Is there a "refresh polygons" option, which would recalculate all the polygons? At present, I have to move every polygon in my design a tiny bit, then move it back, to get it to recalculate them

Re: gEDA-user: pcb has two libraries

2011-05-08 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I have a problem: -- Uninstalling ubuntu pcb: thomas@thinkpadone:~$ sudo apt-get remove pcb [sudo] password for thomas: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no lon

Re: gEDA-user: pcb has two libraries

2011-05-08 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Any idea how to fix it? I initially installed pcb from ubuntu repos. That was the 2007 edition but it was too old for me. So I installed from git the latest unstable 1.99z. So that might be causing the issue - how do I fix it? On 8 May 2011 13:12, DJ Delorie <[1]d...@delorie.com> wr

Re: gEDA-user: pcb has two libraries

2011-05-08 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Here's what I get: newlib: "%s" ../share/pcb/newlib %s%s%s%spcblib-newlib Top level directory for the newlib style library /usr/share/pcb/newlib:/usr/share/pcb/pcblib-newlib library-newlib That makes me think it's in /usr/share/pcb, but it isn't. Then I did this: thoma

gEDA-user: pcb has two libraries

2011-05-07 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I have a little issue with pcb v1.99z, in that it has two libraries: one that I see, and one that it uses. That is, I have added components, and they do not show up. I delete footprints, and they do not go away. One appears to reside in /usr/share/pcb and one in /usr/local/share/pcb.

Re: gEDA-user: Which LibGD am I missing?

2011-05-02 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Thanks! I got it working. On 2 May 2011 14:48, Peter Clifton <[1]pc...@cam.ac.uk> wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 13:18 +0100, Thomas Oldbury wrote: > I get this message trying to build pcb from git: >configure: error: You have requested gcode, nelma, or png

Re: gEDA-user: Which LibGD am I missing?

2011-05-02 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Oh and I forgot to mention, I'm using Ubuntu 10.04. On 2 May 2011 13:18, Thomas Oldbury <[1]toldb...@gmail.com> wrote: I get this message trying to build pcb from git: configure: error: You have requested gcode, nelma, or png HIDs but -lgd could n

gEDA-user: Which LibGD am I missing?

2011-05-02 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I get this message trying to build pcb from git: configure: error: You have requested gcode, nelma, or png HIDs but -lgd could not be found however, I have installed libgd2-noxpm. I have tried to install libgd2-dev but there was no installation candidate. Any help appreciated!

gEDA-user: Building PCB so it uses my footprint directory

2011-04-29 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Last time I built PCB, I screwed up and made several footprint directories and different tools seemed to use different ones. Now I want to make certain that it will use the current directory I am using: /usr/share/pcb, and not /usr/local/share/pcb. How can I make it do this? __

Re: gEDA-user: SOIC footprints in PCB

2011-04-29 Thread Thomas Oldbury
[sorry, pressed Send too soon] SOx are the normal ones - 150 mil wide for most low pin count and 200 mil wide for others (>18 pins?) SOxM is 200mil wide. It fits 8 pin 208mil DataFlash chips. I've not used SOxW yet. On 29 April 2011 20:08, Thomas Oldbury <[1]toldb..

Re: gEDA-user: SOIC footprints in PCB

2011-04-29 Thread Thomas Oldbury
SO8, SO16 On 29 April 2011 20:01, Rob Butts <[1]r.but...@gmail.com> wrote: Can someone tell me what is the corresponding footprint when a datasheet lists a footprint as SOIC-8, SOIC-14 and SOIC-16? In PCB I see SOxx with differing widths and SOJxx_xxx with a slew

Re: gEDA-user: Where is pcb-20100929 for Win32 ?

2011-04-13 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Hmm... I used to get that error on Linux, but it never bothered me (I used PCB fine.) Just leave the message log open in the background and it won't bother you. On 13 April 2011 13:19, Vaclav Peroutka <[1]vacla...@seznam.cz> wrote: Hello all, I don't want to disturb you too

Re: gEDA-user: Spam Email to This List

2011-04-13 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I got mail too. I deleted it. On 13 April 2011 12:51, rickman <[1]gnuarm.g...@arius.com> wrote: I use a separate email address for this list and that address received a spam email. It doesn't look like that email came through this list, but rather the list was somehow harves

Re: gEDA-user: Split ground planes and zero ohm jumpers

2011-04-07 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Out of curiosity, how do other PCB layout products (Altium, Orcad, etc.) implement this? Follow by example? On 7 April 2011 18:21, Stephan Boettcher <[1]boettc...@physik.uni-kiel.de> wrote: John Griessen <[2]j...@ecosensory.com> writes: > On 04/07/2011 04:52 AM, Stephan Boettch

Re: gEDA-user: Sorta OT: What kind of paper is used for owners manuals?

2011-04-06 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Normal paper is about 90 g/m^2 (or gsm.) I'd take a guess that it's slightly more expensive, perhaps 130 g/m^2? On 6 April 2011 22:49, yamazakir2 <[1]yamazak...@gmail.com> wrote: I want to print up some owners manuals for some things I'm selling but I don't know what type

Re: gEDA-user: Two Power Supplies in gschem

2011-04-02 Thread Thomas Oldbury
If you go into the attributes of a symbol, and tick "show inherited", then you will see the nets the power/ground pins are associated to. You can either change these pin assigns by adding new nets, or change your net names. At least, that's how I've always done it. On 2 April 2011 2

Re: gEDA-user: Make vias exposed

2011-03-28 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I found that ctrl-k worked, and "k" alone did not when all vias were selected. On 28 March 2011 23:46, DJ Delorie <[1]d...@delorie.com> wrote: > Second question then - how do I tell how much clearance I have? The > soldermask doesn't seem to show holes for vias. Then you have

Re: gEDA-user: Make vias exposed

2011-03-28 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Second question then - how do I tell how much clearance I have? The soldermask doesn't seem to show holes for vias. On 28 March 2011 23:39, DJ Delorie <[1]d...@delorie.com> wrote: Show the soldermask layer in pcb, then use the 'k' key to increase the soldermask clearance f

gEDA-user: Make vias exposed

2011-03-28 Thread Thomas Oldbury
My board house seems to cover my vias with soldermask (tenting them), which isn't what I want, because some are placed for testing purposes. Is there any way to remove some soldermask around the via to reduce the chance of tenting them? Thanks.

Re: gEDA-user: [PATCH] Drag without selection in gschem

2011-03-21 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I'd suggest making it an opt-out for people like me who like it as it is, but maybe I'll get used to it. On 21 March 2011 22:56, Peter Clifton <[1]pc...@cam.ac.uk> wrote: Could someone give this a test and come up with any counter-reasons why this attached patch is NOT a g

Re: gEDA-user: My footprints aren't showing up...?

2011-03-21 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Ah, my error. It still didn't work (--prefix=/usr), but per Kai-Martin Knaak's suggestion, I used /usr/local and put them there and they show up, so I'm happy. :) On 21 March 2011 22:26, DJ Delorie <[1]d...@delorie.com> wrote: > My footprints still aren't showing up. :( I built it

Re: gEDA-user: My footprints aren't showing up...?

2011-03-21 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I get this from strings /usr/bin/pcb | grep /pcb/ ../share/pcb/newlib /usr/share/pcb/newlib:/usr/share/pcb/pcblib-newlib /usr/share/pcb/[1]gpcb-menu.re My footprints still aren't showing up. :( I built it with ./configure.sh --prefix=/usr/share/pcb, then make, then sudo make in

Re: gEDA-user: My footprints aren't showing up...?

2011-03-21 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Probably my problem. Nope. Any idea where it is getting the footprints from? On 21 March 2011 17:28, DJ Delorie <[1]d...@delorie.com> wrote: Did you build your 1.99z with --prefix=/usr ? ___ geda-user mailing list [2]geda-us

gEDA-user: My footprints aren't showing up...?

2011-03-21 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I normally put all footprints under /usr/share/pcb/pcblib-newlib/tom, this used to create an entry under pcblib-newlib called "tom". However, as of 1.99z it seems to not be working. It looks like I'll have to downgrade which is a shame because it fixed some bugs with the trace length

Re: gEDA-user: Problems with a TDSON8 footprint

2011-03-20 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I think we'd need to see the actual PCB to know if there's a short. My suspicion would be that you have the fet the wrong way around or the pads are not assigned correctly in the footprint or symbol. On 20 March 2011 17:23, Rob Butts <[1]r.but...@gmail.com> wrote: I am using an

Re: gEDA-user: Measuring length of trace

2011-03-20 Thread Thomas Oldbury
OK, I used the git version, and the bug is fixed. Thanks. :) On 15 March 2011 23:57, DJ Delorie <[1]d...@delorie.com> wrote: > I'll try. Are there any bug fixes for that version relating to the > net length calculator? Also, are the PCB files backwards > compatible? I'm working w

Re: gEDA-user: Measuring length of trace

2011-03-15 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I'll try. Are there any bug fixes for that version relating to the net length calculator? Also, are the PCB files backwards compatible?I'm working with several people who still use the 2009 versions. On 15 March 2011 22:52, DJ Delorie <[1]d...@delorie.com> wrote: > version 200911

Re: gEDA-user: General Layers questions

2011-03-15 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Huh. Did not know that. Thanks. I'll have to check if my fab does charge. On 15 March 2011 22:51, DJ Delorie <[1]d...@delorie.com> wrote: We already have a Hole type. Create a via, and use Ctrl-H to toggle it into a hole. Note that many fabs charge extra if you have unpla

Re: gEDA-user: Measuring length of trace

2011-03-15 Thread Thomas Oldbury
About dialog shows this: This is PCB, an interactive printed circuit board editor version 20091103 Compiled on Dec 18 2009 at 22:18:40 by harry eaton On 15 March 2011 22:47, DJ Delorie <[1]d...@delorie.com> wrote: What version of pcb are you using? __

Re: gEDA-user: General Layers questions

2011-03-15 Thread Thomas Oldbury
One thing I'd like to see is a drill hole, because at the moment I use vias for those. It means I usually have to have a minimum plating, or DRC will warn me, but drill holes rarely need plating. On 15 March 2011 22:32, Martin Kupec <[1]martin.ku...@kupson.cz> wrote: On Tue, Mar 15

Re: gEDA-user: Measuring length of trace

2011-03-15 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Hmm it's not working... I'm getting: Net length: 0.00 mils Even when hovering over the trace. I think the problem is it is including the pads and vias and getting confused, but I wouldn't know enough about pcb to know for certain. Can you see images over newsgroup? I've uploaded a

gEDA-user: Measuring length of trace

2011-03-15 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I'm trying to measure the length of some traces, so I can keep them the same (for timing purposes.) I've heard of :report(netlength) but that always gives me 0.00mm. What am I doing wrong, or is there something else I should be doing? ___ ge

Re: gEDA-user: General Layers questions

2011-03-15 Thread Thomas Oldbury
On 15 March 2011 14:39, Kai-Martin Knaak <[1]kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de> wrote: My current project happens to be a use case for lines with paste: I need to transport lots of current on limited space. And it needs to be very resistant to vibration (this is supposed to survive a

Re: gEDA-user: General Layers questions

2011-03-14 Thread Thomas Oldbury
Reading the section on blind and buried vias had me interested. However, shouldn't vias be assigned layers (and not the other way around?) It would probably make the code simpler - clicking on a via would give immediate information about layers it belongs to, whereas having vias assi

Re: gEDA-user: Anyone using my gedasymbols?

2011-03-14 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I've used a few. On 14 March 2011 08:37, Balogh Richard, Ing. <[1]bal...@elf.stuba.sk> wrote: Me too. A lot of them. Richard Balogh ___ geda-user mailing list [2]geda-user@moria.seul.org [3]http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mai

Re: gEDA-user: PCB very slow on new laptop

2011-03-13 Thread Thomas Oldbury
had a large impact on performance in prior Email threads. Steve On Mar 12, 2011, at 4:07 PM, Thomas Oldbury <[2]toldb...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have recently got a new laptop, a Lenovo ThinkPad X201. However, I'm > having a rather annoying problem with

gEDA-user: PCB very slow on new laptop

2011-03-12 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I have recently got a new laptop, a Lenovo ThinkPad X201. However, I'm having a rather annoying problem with pcb. When trying to zoom in or scroll, it is incredibly slow - taking a second or more to do any action. I'm running pcb on another laptop and it doesn't have any problems, it

gEDA-user: Skip DRC on "outline" layer

2011-03-10 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I am using an outline layer in PCB. It complains of DRC violations when the outline is too close to vias. Is it possible to get it to skip DRC on these? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/lis

Re: gEDA-user: automatic pon button

2011-03-10 Thread Thomas Oldbury
In the BIOS, there is usually a "restore after power loss" option, however if that doesn't work, I'd suggest a power on reset controller connected to the power button. Here's one example, which is available in TO92: [1]http://www.microchip.com/wwwproducts/Devices.aspx?dDocName=en0201

gEDA-user: Add additional paste

2011-03-06 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I have two questions relating to solder paste. One is more general, second one is about gEDA/PCB. 1.) Is it common practice to add paste on top of a copper layer to carry more current or to remove heat from small power devices (surface mount SOT26 buck regulator in my case)? If so,