Re: gEDA-user: solder/component --> top/bottom ?

2011-09-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > b) The names of the copper groups in > File -> Preferences -> Groups > > c) The help text in > File -> Preferences -> Info patch atttached for the preference dialog ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak, Email: k...@familieknaak.

Re: gEDA-user: solder/component --> top/bottom ?

2011-09-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
canvas shows. (patch attached) b) The names of the copper groups in File -> Preferences -> Groups c) The help text in File -> Preferences -> Info ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak, Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C

gEDA-user: solder/component --> top/bottom ?

2011-09-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
ide. I'd be motivated to prepare a series of patches to get away with solder/component once and for all. Would be a bit of work, though. So I'll ask before I spend hunting them down: Would such a patch get applied (provided, it is well formed and all)? ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-

Re: gEDA-user: help with pcb dsn plugin

2011-09-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
DJ Delorie wrote: >> Is the above the exact syntax ? > > PCB follows the GNU coding standards, (.. snip ..) > The only exception, usually, is comments Is this also true for the c portion of gschem, gnetlist, gerbvierw, etc. ? ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-M

Re: gEDA-user: windows and opengl

2011-09-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
his will most likely be rectified on a reasonable time frame -- Say in, in a few months? ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak, Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 Still unhappy with moderation of geda-user. Why? Because i

Re: gEDA-user: help with pcb dsn plugin

2011-09-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
style conventions be found anywhere in a halfway comprehensive written form? ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak, Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 Still unhappy with moderation of

gEDA-user: windows and opengl

2011-09-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
course every graphics card manufacturer provides accelerated drivers for windows. Wouldn't openGL "just work" in such an environment? ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak, Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F

Re: gEDA-user: Zoom bug on Windows

2011-09-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
DJ Delorie wrote: > >> It sounds like 'bash' needs to be selected as the program to run > > That would be tricky, as we don't install bash. Maybe, win-bash is an option: http://sourceforge.net/projects/win-bash/ ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Kna

Re: gEDA-user: unconnected tracks

2011-09-16 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Peter Clifton wrote: > On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 02:02 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: >> here comes the forgotten patch for more intuitive select and >> unselect menu items. > > If there are corresponding items in pcb-menu.res, it would be good to > keep those in sync as

Re: gEDA-user: Zoom bug on Windows

2011-09-16 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
over the footprints in my own lib. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak, Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 Still unhappy with moderation of geda-user. Why? Because it is completely intransparent. __

Re: gEDA-user: Zoom bug on Windows

2011-09-16 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
aryContents.sh problem) ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de -> not happy with

Re: gEDA-user: Zoom bug on Windows

2011-09-16 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
d not with zZ. pan is ok, though. My keyboard is German. The locale of the windows binary is "DE". ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 301

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-09-16 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
ot the only theme to do such obvious highlighting. The popular nuvola and gorilla themes do the same. > I have never seen a select box with prelighting > like you suggest, and evidently neither have the gtk folks. They do so with radio buttons. And the PCB layer box certainly has a rad

Re: gEDA-user: Zoom bug on Windows

2011-09-16 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
parator.svg --<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de -> not happy with

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-09-15 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
MHO, an increase in size would work better - Much like many desktop manager do, when they prelight icons on mouse-over. Best would be a changed background. (Did I understand you correctly, that this can't be done easily with the chosen widget?) ---<)kaimartin(>--- --

Re: gEDA-user: unconnected tracks

2011-09-15 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
here comes the forgotten patch for more intuitive select and unselect menu items. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak, Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 Still unhappy with moderation of geda-user. Why? Because it is comp

Re: gEDA-user: unconnected tracks

2011-09-15 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
;. 2) They are on visible layers. Similar conditions apply to "select-all". (The attached patch changes the menu to better reflects this meaning.) Your hint shifts the problem to "How to find all objects that are connected to some net". I don't see a GUI way to achie

gEDA-user: unconnected tracks

2011-09-15 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Is there any way in PCB to select all unconnected track segments in a layout? This would come handy on redesign. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfen

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-14 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
agree with you. It would be nice to have them updated immediately. But I certainly would not call that "not working". ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak, Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 Still unhappy with modera

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-14 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
install scripts of their distro. They choose "geda" in the package manager, press install and are done. No need to add paths to anything. ---<)kmknaak(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenopt

Re: gEDA-user: How to disable specific hooks?

2011-09-13 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
in(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de -> not happy with moderation of

Re: gEDA-user: howto toporoute?

2011-09-13 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
to become a viable option. :-| ---<)kaiamrtin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de -> not happy

gEDA-user: How to disable specific hooks?

2011-09-13 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
f NOP script in my personal gschemrc. But being a noob with guile I just don't know where to start. Any hints? ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfe

Re: gEDA-user: reasons for wikibook (was: plugins)

2011-09-13 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
oncept. Consequently, virtually all wiki software stores versions and allows for reverts. This includes dokuwiki, which is behind the screens of gpleda.org. ---<)kaimartin(>---- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
gs.launchpad.net/pcb/+bug/843577 ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de -> not happy

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-12 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
the scope of what I intend to start. Anyway, I wouldn't sort the priority of these documents in any specific order. All of them are vital for the project -- each in a different way. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11

gEDA-user: reasons for wikibook (was: plugins)

2011-09-12 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Vladimir Zhbanov wrote: > On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 10:51:31PM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: >> I am close to start off a gEDA wikibook (http://en.wikibooks.org). >> Would you join the effort? > How about updating the existing wiki documentation? Reasons to go for wikibooks: a

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-12 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
me of the documentation I have written previously is here: > gEDA-Tutorials.pdf on > https://sites.google.com/site/abhijit86k/linux/geda Nice. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 Moderation of

gEDA-user: howto toporoute?

2011-09-11 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
aimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 Moderation of geda-user seems to be lifted, lately. I am still unhappy with it. Why? Because it is completely intransparent. _

Re: gEDA-user: PCB segfaults when the "Route style" button is clicked

2011-09-10 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
ce a difference: With the reloaded layout, the field for the route style name is empty. Maybe, this is a hint for the cause. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 increasingly unhap

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-08 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 increasingly unhappy with moderation of geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

gEDA-user: key accels (was: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA)

2011-09-08 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
[..], me routing a board looks very much like someone playing starcraft 2. :-P IMHO, right hand on mouse, left hand on keyboard is not tied to two key accels at all. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?se

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-08 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
John Griessen wrote: > The number of people using it one way or the other would be voted for > with tutorials written and promoted. ... and create quite some confusion during the process. Does not look like a good idea to me. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@fam

gEDA-user: accel keys (was: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA)

2011-09-08 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
s, this really should be in place on the canvas triggered by double click. I hardly know any other application these days, that pops up a dialog. Did anyone ever try to build accel tables optimized for compatibility between gschem and PCB? ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Ema

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-08 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
d is handy, if the circuit needs some more components. http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/symbols/titleblock/title-block.sym ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 increasingly unha

Re: gEDA-user: CERN goes for KiCAD

2011-09-08 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
h as a foreign language, have a hard time to get the tone right. I can guess the german phrases Stefan had in mind. Let me assure you, their subtext is far less offensive and more tongue in cheek. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyser

Re: gEDA-user: PCB panner control

2011-09-08 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
ge of the canvas. Auto scroll just goes on forever, when I reach for the menu or change styles during manual routing. Makes it a no-no for me. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 increasing

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-07 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Dan Roganti wrote: > I'll be glad to help anyone in this development group with this > documentation work. I am close to start off a gEDA wikibook (http://en.wikibooks.org). Would you join the effort? ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.d

Re: gEDA-user: Strange user interface behavior with gschem-1.6.2.20110115

2011-09-07 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
n zoom way out and still be able to hit that pin point rather than the neighboring grid node. On medium zoom level, you can be more sloppy where you actually click. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0

Re: gEDA-user: CERN goes for KiCAD

2011-09-07 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
peration/interest. Yes. There was a significant difference to be felt on the mailing list. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 increasingly unhappy with moderation of geda-user ___

Re: gEDA-user: CERN goes for KiCAD

2011-09-07 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
his is because of my strong geda back ground and I sure missed a lot of advanced kicad features. But it is a hint that kicad is not (yet) in a position to win hands down, no matter what metric is applied. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-

Re: gEDA-user: CERN goes for KiCAD

2011-09-07 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
re was certainly more. What was it? ---<)kaiamrtin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de -> not happy

Re: gEDA-user: CERN goes for KiCAD

2011-09-07 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
to think about the reasons. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de -> not happy

Re: gEDA-user: time for a pcb release cycle?

2011-09-07 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
t I write about it, I suspect, it is the path variable. Although I thought, pcb does not need this in the first place. I'll check tomorrow. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 incre

Re: gEDA-user: CERN goes for KiCAD

2011-09-06 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
root and you know what I mean. And they tend to have a long breath. IMHO, this CERN style would have been a good match for geda. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 increasingly unhapp

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-06 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Bert Timmerman wrote: >> Is there even a comprehensive list of plugins that are done >> at a single place? > > https://github.com/bert/pcb-plugins.git This URL gives me "404 This is not the web page you are looking for." :-| ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin

Re: gEDA-user: Another project finished with gEDA

2011-09-06 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Adrian Pardini wrote: > I'd > really like to thank you specially Kai for the effort you put into > your library, and also to everybody involved in gEDA development. Nice to see somebody else actually find my stuff useful. :-)) ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-M

gEDA-user: CERN goes for KiCAD

2011-09-06 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
. \- Reason given: /- (...) the feeling that Kicad looks more like what we have in mind for our future PCB work and that we feel more capable of making important contributions to it. \- sad. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-

Re: gEDA-user: devices with different slots? How?

2011-09-06 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
http://gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/symbols/digital/74_pwr.sym Good thing about the 74-series is, one power symbol can cater to many of them :-) ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quante

Re: gEDA-user: test repo

2011-09-05 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
he lib... Looks like, the lesson to be learned here is: Us power users should engage and write better tutorials and make them visible. Upload videos on youtube blog about it, write articles in Make Magazine, etc. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de htt

Re: gEDA-user: Strange user interface behavior with gschem-1.6.2.20110115

2011-09-05 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
control -- "sometimes, the tool works, sometimes it goes on strike...". A pop-up warning would be the better choice. Text might be something along the lines "Could not connect with a straight L" ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaa

Re: gEDA-user: test repo

2011-09-05 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
fixed calendar won't work as we don't have dedicated developers. > Our roadmap is to decide on a minimum set of features and bugfixes we > want in the next release, I am not talking about fixed calendar for a release. The calendar is about the internal organization of the testing-to-head

Re: gEDA-user: test repo

2011-09-05 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
at I don't expect guaranteed unbroken applications when testing. After all, the whole point of testing is to find things that are broken. So please stop suggesting otherwise. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/loo

Re: gEDA-user: test repo

2011-09-05 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Andrew Poelstra wrote: > On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 03:21:25AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: >> Proposal to tone down the impact of patches breaking important features: >> >>Add a branch "test" to git. This branch would work pretty much like >>sid/unst

Re: gEDA-user: test repo

2011-09-05 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
s not working. See the mil-to-nm conversion. IIRC, Andrew had a test repo set up. Obviously, some quite severe issues had passed undetected. ---<)kaiamrtin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +4

Re: gEDA-user: "revert" vs "reload"

2011-09-05 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Richard Barlow wrote: >> On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 01:46 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: >> > With a number of recommended work-flows PCB and gschem do not >> > return to the last saved state. Instead, they update to the >> > current state of the source file. The g

Re: gEDA-user: pcb gtk: Toggle buttons for route styles?

2011-09-05 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
nes on outer layers to their original width. So, yes, DRC rules should optionally depend on layers. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30

Re: gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-05 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
and break when the main source moves on. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universit?0?1t Hannover, Inst. f??r Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de -

Re: gEDA-user: David Jones - EEVBlog on Open Hardware

2011-09-04 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Peter Clifton wrote: > gEDA and KiCAD get a mention ;) > > http://www.eevblog.com/2011/08/12/eevblog-195-open-source-hardware-explained/ About what point in time? ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pk

gEDA-user: test repo

2011-09-04 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
ld receive all the new stuff so advanced users like me can give them a test run. If a patch stands the test by same time, it will be applied to git-head. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9

Re: gEDA-user: Strange user interface behavior with gschem-1.6.2.20110115

2011-09-04 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
it is not an autorouter, but a mouse click prediction facility. (Auto routing for nets would be a great, nerdy feature :-) ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0

Re: gEDA-user: Tearoffs on popup menu in pcb?

2011-09-04 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
manual routing over a larger area. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 increasingly unhappy with moderation of geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list ged

Re: gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-02 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
John Griessen wrote: > Does the category low end bother you? > It is at the low end of the price tag scale :-) ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 We

Re: gEDA-user: pcb gtk: Toggle buttons for route styles?

2011-09-02 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
. Bonus points to allow the list be ripped off and placed on the other monitor. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 increasingly unhappy with moderation of geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: pcb gtk: Toggle buttons for route styles?

2011-09-02 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
-) To fully implement these proposals, changes in the internals of pcb are required. But at least, a GUI-only redesign should not conflict such ideas. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 incre

Re: gEDA-user: slotting question

2011-09-01 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Dave McGuire wrote: > Thank you for your > assistance, and I apologize for the distraction. No worries. You are not the first to see ghosts when looking in the wrong direction... ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.n

Re: gEDA-user: How to find which specific part of a PCB is shorted?

2011-08-31 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
: Remove the right half of the layout and check, whether the short goes away. Repeat, until you spot the problem. Then revert to the complete layout. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?

Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-31 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
ob) ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 increasingly unhappy with moderation of geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org ht

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-31 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
y items that cannot be clicked or dragged should stay silent. Surely, the gnome HIG says something along these lines. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 increasingly unhappy with moderation o

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-31 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
or the frame. Or alternatively, draw the frame in layer color. This would increase the size of the square. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfeng

Re: gEDA-user: essential library -- plaese comment.

2011-08-31 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de -> not happy with moderat

Re: gEDA-user: essential library -- please comment.

2011-08-31 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
y-paste errors tend to stay unnoticed for years because I don't use the gedasymbols HTML-page myself. Lesson to be learned: This kind of page really should be created from the actual library by a script. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-31 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
restart of the application. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 increasingly unhappy with moderation of geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list ged

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-31 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
y affects the swatch? How about a change to the frame? For example, make it thicker and GTK highlight color. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 in

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: Modifier keys for moving?

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
say "wheezy"... ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de ->

Re: gEDA-user: essential library -- plaese comment.

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
eck the links: Most of these links are working, too. But there were some, that did not -- I corrected them. These were mostly typos when preparing the HTML pages. I should really come up with some automated system that precludes this kind of error. Thank you for checking! ---<)kaimartin(&

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb-quick_reference?&#layers ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-ha

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Andrew Poelstra wrote: > - tearoffs on the right-click menu > By the way -- Why is this menu on [shift-RightClick] ? Are there any plans for plain right click? ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannove

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
ems. But of course, you can't input anything there. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
arily visible while the button is pressed) ---<)kaimartin(>--- (*) Sorry, I can't reply to myself, because my message has not yet made it to the list. Judging from experience This will probably take some hours or days) -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
causing it. To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.) \ - ---<)kaimartin(>--- - -- Kai-Martin Knaak

Re: gEDA-user: Tearoffs on popup menu in pcb?

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
to click somewhere on the canvas. This what "Cut selection to buffer" does, when chosen from the regular menu. BTW: What are Tools->None and Tools->Cancel supposed to do? - ---<)kaimartin(>--- - -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:

Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
it is up again. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 increasingly unhappy with moderation of geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: "revert" vs "reload"

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
s that we stick with "Revert" here. Ok, I won't prepare patches. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 increasingly unhappy with moderation of geda-user _

Re: gEDA-user: essential library -- please comment.

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
, this would be complemented with a preview and a way to select from the footprint library. This would mean, PCB is run as aservice to gschem -- heaven forbid! ;-) ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?sear

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: Modifier keys for moving?

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Colin D Bennett wrote: > Are you running an old version of GTK? My distro is debian/testing, aka squeeze. The libgtk2 packages are mostly version 2.24.4-3 . Is this "old"? ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.n

Re: gEDA-user: path variable to $HOME/.gEDA

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Oh, this is a delightfully simple solution. :-) ---<)kaiamrtin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 increasingly unhappy with moderation of geda-user ___ geda-user m

gEDA-user: "revert" vs "reload"

2011-08-29 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
: Rename the menu item "revert" to the more neutral "reload". This applies to both, PCB and gschem. Would this be appreciated? ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik

gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-29 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
when you need them the most ;-| - ---<)kaimartin(>--- - -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de - ->

gEDA-user: essential library -- plaese comment.

2011-08-29 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
able -- It might prevent me from running into a don't-like-wall. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 increasingly unhappy with moderation of geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Tearoffs on popup menu in pcb?

2011-08-29 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
he bottom right might end up in the bottom left, etc. We had this recently, when the hole tool was added. This caused me to do quite a number of mis-clicks. BTW, what are the "none" and "cancel" tools for? ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaa

gEDA-user: path variable to $HOME/.gEDA

2011-08-28 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
oject specific color file I'd need a scheme variable for the project dir. Is there any? ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 increasingly unhap

Re: gEDA-user: Updating gtk menu dynamically?

2011-08-28 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
t on-the-fly user modification of accel keys? (put the mouse on a menu item and type whatever accel you want to assign) ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 increasingly unhappy with moder

Re: gEDA-user: slotting question

2011-08-26 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
s hypothesis by not setting the slotting at all and just save to text.sch . In addition you can use the "locate" command to locate all symbol files called "7404-1.sym" on your hard disk. HTH, ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://p

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: Modifier keys for moving?

2011-08-26 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
; Am I missing something here or is this normal? In PCB I habitually rip off the settings menu and put it somewhere right of the canvas. This menu shows checkmarks for active options. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/

Re: gEDA-user: gschem vs. PCB diode pin numbering

2011-08-25 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Kovacs Levente wrote: > On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 08:21:17 -0400 > Ethan Swint wrote: > >> I've defined my own symbols and footprints to use 'A' and 'K' instead >> of 1 and 2. > > I don't think it's a good idea. Why not? ---<)kaimart

Re: gEDA-user: How to do PCB Autorouting with non-plated holes

2011-08-25 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
if you apply the script more than once. Actually, there is an easy solution: Only do the conversion if the pin in question has non-zero pin width. ---<)kaimartin(>--- (*) Which didn't hit the list, yet. -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Univers

Re: gEDA-user: How to do PCB Autorouting with non-plated holes

2011-08-25 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
lse, >> output the current line unchanged. > > Could you do this on the layout (.pcb file) after all elements are > placed so he would not even need to create new footprint files? Sure. It would get a little nasty though, if you require the script to ignore the already co

Re: gEDA-user: canvas of openGL enabled PCB temporarily goes confetti

2011-08-25 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
size in the first place. gliv resizes images impressively fast with no apparent glitch at all. <)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 increasingly unhappy with modera

Re: gEDA-user: Foss-pcb Proposed plan from CERN

2011-08-24 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
event distribution by super correct distros like Debian? ---<)kaimartin(>--- >> PS: Why did none of my todays posts hit the list, yet? (While others seem >> to have no problem to get through within minutes) Any answers to this one? -- Kai-Martin Knaak

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