Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-22 Thread Vanessa Ezekowitz
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:36:33 +1000 Stephen Ecob wrote: > Often I want to see one layer alone, so it would be convenient to be > able to hide all and then show a single layer, using just 2 clicks. > [...and eventually, re-show all...] > Does this idea appeal to any of you other PCB users out there

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-22 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 02:22:25AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Andrew Poelstra wrote: > > > I have implemented the italicized/separated > > suggestion. You can see it here: > > > > http://www.wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/mockup4.png > > Nice. > I note, that the longest layer name is "solder

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-22 Thread Dave McGuire
On 08/22/2011 08:58 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: if you use pcb with the Lesstif GUI, why? The lesstif GUI was designed to use very little screen space, leaving the maximum amount of space for the board. It also serves as a check point to make sure the HID interface doesn't become gtk-specific. Pete

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-22 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Andrew Poelstra wrote: > I have implemented the italicized/separated > suggestion. You can see it here: > > http://www.wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/mockup4.png Nice. I note, that the longest layer name is "solder mask". Why not shorten it to "mask" to save screen estate for the canvas? ---<)kaim

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-22 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Stephen Ecob wrote: > * Hide all layers button > > * Show all layers button I don't think, that I would use these much. > * Layer visibility memory - this would have a Store button and a > Recall button. "Store" just stores the current visibility state, > "Recall" changes it to the stored val

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL rebased to git HEAD (with nanometers) - bug with arcs?

2011-08-22 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Andrew Poelstra wrote: > This happens with git HEAD as well, not just the GL fork. It even > happens when configuring with --disable-gl. > > It's a pretty neat bug - if you deselect the object after switching > its layer, you can move it without problem. It is only when hitting > 'b' and moving t

Re: gEDA-user: Foss-pcb Proposed plan from CERN

2011-08-22 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Kovacs Levente wrote: >> CERN might come up with tip money for developers. >> Anyone have the time to be in a committee? > > I am very interested in this project. I don't really know what would be the > tastks in the committee. Please let me know about any details. I subscribed to > the mailing l

Re: gEDA-user: slotting question

2011-08-22 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Dave McGuire wrote: >I open up a new schematic, place two instances of 7404-1, edit the > attributes of the second one, promote the "slot" attribute, edit the > newly-accessible one, change it to "2", save it, save the sheet, ^^^

Re: gEDA-user: trcing with pcb design

2011-08-22 Thread Svenn Are Bjerkem
On 16 August 2011 10:40, Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote: > On 16 August 2011 00:51, DJ Delorie wrote: >> >> Currently, it's just one background image, but you could change it to >> load two and switch between them depending on which side of the board >> you're looking at. > > This is the thing I am look

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-22 Thread DJ Delorie
> if you use pcb with the Lesstif GUI, why? The lesstif GUI was designed to use very little screen space, leaving the maximum amount of space for the board. It also serves as a check point to make sure the HID interface doesn't become gtk-specific. Peter and I seem to be taking the two GUIs in

gEDA-user: SDB HOWTO vs Circuit Simulation HOWTO

2011-08-22 Thread Vladimir Zhbanov
Hello, gEDA users and devs. There are two versions of "gEDA and SPICE HOWTO" by SDB in the gEDA wiki. http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:sdb_howto is a version dated 2003. There is only one link pointing to it in the whole wiki on the wiki/geda:documentation page (named "Spice netlisting (SDB) HOWTO")

gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-22 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:51:03 -0400 DJ Delorie wrote: > Which GUI ? That makes me wonder: who uses the Lesstif HID GUI instead of the GTK HID GUI? I've only used the GTK GUI because I don't know why one might choose Lesstif. Any Motif/Lesstif applications I've used in the past are missing the b

Re: gEDA-user: This patch is breaking compile

2011-08-22 Thread kqt4at5v
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011, Markus Hitter wrote: Am 15.08.2011 um 22:37 schrieb kqt4a...@comcast.net: I was especially interested in the drillmill function but I have not been able to get that to work I check the box and only get plain drilling Did you look into the "outline" G-code file? As dril

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-22 Thread Stephen Ecob
A few hours in the future, Andrew Poelstra wrote: > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 09:52:19AM +1000, Stephen Ecob wrote: >> A few hours in the future, Andrew Poelstra wrote: >> * Hide all layers button >> >> * Show all layers button > > These would be easy enough to add to the widget. Just tack an > `Al

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-22 Thread DJ Delorie
> Relatedly, why do we let the user select the 'rats' layer? > Can you actually draw with it? Yes. That's how you enter the netlist when you don't have a schematic. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailm

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-22 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 09:52:19AM +1000, Stephen Ecob wrote: > A few hours in the future, Andrew Poelstra wrote: > > > Nope, uploaded it wrong :-}. The URL works now. > > Looks good, a definite improvement on what we have now! > > This may be out of scope for the current work, but I have some

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-22 Thread Stephen Ecob
A few hours in the future, Andrew Poelstra wrote: > Nope, uploaded it wrong :-}. The URL works now. Looks good, a definite improvement on what we have now! This may be out of scope for the current work, but I have some related items on my PCB wish list: * Hide all layers button * Show all lay

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-22 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 09:33:28AM +1000, Stephen Ecob wrote: > > With this in mind, I have implemented the italicized/separated > > suggestion. You can see it here: > > > > http://www.wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/mockup4.png > > 404 error - did you get the URL wrong ? > Nope, uploaded it wrong :-}

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-22 Thread Stephen Ecob
> With this in mind, I have implemented the italicized/separated > suggestion. You can see it here: > > http://www.wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/mockup4.png 404 error - did you get the URL wrong ? -- Stephen Ecob Silicon On Inspiration Sydney Australia www.sioi.com.au

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-22 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 04:41:05PM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Andrew Poelstra wrote: > > > What we need to do with the treeview/swatch widget, is to indicate > > that the swatch still works for toggling visibility, but you can't > > actually select the layer for drawing. > > Complex relatio

Re: gEDA-user: viewing side vs. layers

2011-08-22 Thread Levente Kovacs
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:17:11 -0700 Andrew Poelstra wrote: > What should be happening? I will make sure this works > when I implement my new gtk layer selector. You see your board from component side, and you switch off the copper view of the other side. Optionally, switch off the "far side". Now

Re: gEDA-user: viewing side vs. layers

2011-08-22 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:48:27PM +0200, Levente Kovacs wrote: > The automatic layer change capability is missing from the current HEAD > ( 7b590a617db3ca3ed69965b544f1468f82c39dfe ). I.e. when you swap viewing side > with TAB. > > It works only once, then stops working. > What should be happeni

Re: gEDA-user: viewing side vs. layers

2011-08-22 Thread Levente Kovacs
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:51:03 -0400 DJ Delorie wrote: > Which GUI ? GTK -- Levente Kovacs http://levente.logonex.eu ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: viewing side vs. layers

2011-08-22 Thread DJ Delorie
Which GUI ? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

gEDA-user: viewing side vs. layers

2011-08-22 Thread Levente Kovacs
The automatic layer change capability is missing from the current HEAD ( 7b590a617db3ca3ed69965b544f1468f82c39dfe ). I.e. when you swap viewing side with TAB. It works only once, then stops working. Thanks, Levente -- Levente Kovacs http://levente.logonex.eu

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL rebased to git HEAD (with nanometers) - bug with arcs?

2011-08-22 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 05:31:26PM -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: > On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 01:57:08PM +0200, michalwd1979 wrote: > > Dear Peter, > > > > I'm using newest version of pcb opengl from git and I found strange > > behaviour with arcs. > > > > This was caused by my commit: > Fixed by

Re: gEDA-user: pcb segmentation fault

2011-08-22 Thread kqt4at5v
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011, Andrew Poelstra wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 08:45:22AM -0500, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: $ git log -1 commit eaf012c425a5adc9a31d857d3aa9e906d844c97f Author: Peter Clifton Date: Mon Aug 8 23:13:02 2011 +0100 hid/gtk: Clean up ghid_pan_fixup () I have just fix

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL rebased to git HEAD (with nanometers) - bug with arcs?

2011-08-22 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 01:57:08PM +0200, michalwd1979 wrote: > Dear Peter, > > I'm using newest version of pcb opengl from git and I found strange behaviour > with arcs. > This was caused by my commit: commit 5456171cbd9129402acfc6596d1cd7b742880324 Author: Andrew Poelstra Date: Thu Aug 4 0

Re: gEDA-user: Has anyone in this group seriously used KiCAD?

2011-08-22 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:07:45 +0800 Atommann wrote: > 2011/8/20 Colin D Bennett : > > On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:55:31 -0400 > > John Hudak wrote: > > > >> Pros/cons?  and please, no philosphy about integrated vs > >> independent tools...I am interested in aspects such as what things > >> work? what

Re: gEDA-user: Preventing elements from appearing in BOM

2011-08-22 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:09:03 -0400 Ethan Swint wrote: > On 08/20/2011 11:50 AM, Matthew Lewis wrote: > > Is there a way to prevent a device from appearing in the BOM and in > > the XYRS file? The problem I'm trying to solve is that I have a pin > > defined in my schematic for attaching a wire t

Re: gEDA-user: pcb segmentation fault

2011-08-22 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 08:45:22AM -0500, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: > $ git log -1 > commit eaf012c425a5adc9a31d857d3aa9e906d844c97f > Author: Peter Clifton > Date: Mon Aug 8 23:13:02 2011 +0100 > > hid/gtk: Clean up ghid_pan_fixup () > I have just fixed it in: commit 87572b48e0d58b8f69

Re: gEDA-user: pcb segmentation fault

2011-08-22 Thread kqt4at5v
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: On Mon, 22 Aug 2011, Andrew Poelstra wrote: On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 08:04:03AM -0500, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: I am using version 1.99z that I compiled a few days ago If I press control-r while the mouse is over a component name I get a seg

Re: gEDA-user: pcb segmentation fault

2011-08-22 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 07:33:36 -0500 (CDT) kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: > I am using version 1.99z that I compiled a few days ago > If I press control-r while the mouse is over a component name I get a > segmentation fault I have seen this recently too. I can't reproduce it exactly right now, but I

Re: gEDA-user: Foss-pcb Proposed plan from CERN

2011-08-22 Thread John Griessen
On 08/22/2011 04:20 AM, Kovacs Levente wrote: Please let me know about any details. I subscribed to the mailing list. Levente That, and the wiki at : I would keep track of the results of discussion in http://www.ohwr.org/projects/ohr-meta/wiki/Foss-pcb Are what I know how to communicate wit

Re: gEDA-user: Preventing elements from appearing in BOM

2011-08-22 Thread Ethan Swint
On 08/20/2011 11:50 AM, Matthew Lewis wrote: Is there a way to prevent a device from appearing in the BOM and in the XYRS file? The problem I'm trying to solve is that I have a pin defined in my schematic for attaching a wire to the PCB. There is no actual device to be installed. In order to ge

Re: gEDA-user: pcb segmentation fault

2011-08-22 Thread kqt4at5v
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011, Andrew Poelstra wrote: On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 08:04:03AM -0500, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: I am using version 1.99z that I compiled a few days ago If I press control-r while the mouse is over a component name I get a segmentation fault What kind of component? Actuall

Re: gEDA-user: Layers and Buried/Blind Vias in gEDA

2011-08-22 Thread Bob Paddock
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Andrew Poelstra wrote: > On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 01:30:57AM -0400, Gus Fantanas wrote: >> While following the discussion about layers, I wondered if the >> capability to handle buried/blind vias could be implemented in gEDA. > > This would require core layer-handl

Re: gEDA-user: slotting question

2011-08-22 Thread Kovacs Levente
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 23:55:49 -0400 Dave McGuire wrote: >I open up a new schematic, place two instances of 7404-1, edit the > attributes of the second one, promote the "slot" attribute, edit the > newly-accessible one, change it to "2", save it, save the sheet, exit > gschem, restart, and l

Re: gEDA-user: Foss-pcb Proposed plan from CERN

2011-08-22 Thread Kovacs Levente
On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 20:36:30 -0500 John Griessen wrote: > CERN might come up with tip money for developers. > Anyone have the time to be in a committee? I am very interested in this project. I don't really know what would be the tastks in the committee. Please let me know about any details. I su