Re: gEDA-user: pcb, howto get plain rats lines instead of circles

2008-10-07 Thread Ben Jackson
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 07:56:27AM +0200, Bert Timmerman wrote: > > I notice that both rat lines on the pads with circles (in C600 and C601) > have the "via" flag set. > > I wonder, what could have triggered this ? It's supposed to happen when you're over a rectangle in the target net. I added t

Re: gEDA-user: pcb, howto get plain rats lines instead of circles

2008-10-07 Thread Bert Timmerman
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 07:56 +0200, Bert Timmerman wrote: > Hi Stefan, > > FWIW, > > I notice that both rat lines on the pads with circles (in C600 and C601) > have the "via" flag set. > > I wonder, what could have triggered this ? > > Is it that the layer named "component" is not defined to be

Re: gEDA-user: pcb, howto get plain rats lines instead of circles

2008-10-07 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Stefan, FWIW, I notice that both rat lines on the pads with circles (in C600 and C601) have the "via" flag set. I wonder, what could have triggered this ? Is it that the layer named "component" is not defined to be on the component side (04) of the board, but is defined as an inner layer (02

Re: gEDA-user: pnp symbol questions

2008-10-07 Thread John Griessen
Stefan Salewski wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 07.10.2008, 18:12 -0400 schrieb Rob Butts: >> I did read the thread. I would like to modify the symbol so that the >>part in pcb does not have the G, D or S. I'd like it to just have the >>flat side of the transistor. > > Sorry, I can not really

Re: gEDA-user: pnp symbol questions

2008-10-07 Thread Stefan Salewski
Am Dienstag, den 07.10.2008, 18:12 -0400 schrieb Rob Butts: > I did read the thread. I would like to modify the symbol so that the >part in pcb does not have the G, D or S. I'd like it to just have the >flat side of the transistor. Sorry, I can not really understand your problem. You men

Re: gEDA-user: pcb, howto get plain rats lines instead of circles

2008-10-07 Thread Stefan Salewski
Am Dienstag, den 07.10.2008, 23:58 +0200 schrieb Stefan Salewski: > > Done -- same bug. > And it's the same with Thru hole footprints -- tested with CONN600 of b2.pcb. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/

Re: gEDA-user: pnp symbol questions

2008-10-07 Thread Rob Butts
I did read the thread. I would like to modify the symbol so that the part in pcb does not have the G, D or S. I'd like it to just have the flat side of the transistor. On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Stefan Salewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am Dienstag, den 07.10.2008, 16:

Re: gEDA-user: pcb, howto get plain rats lines instead of circles

2008-10-07 Thread Stefan Salewski
Am Dienstag, den 07.10.2008, 18:34 +0200 schrieb Stefan Salewski: > I will myself make a test with a > layout created from scratch. > Done -- same bug. I used a other, simple schematic used gsch2pcb to generate initial board, opened board with pcb, imported netlist, dispersed elements, draw a

Re: gEDA-user: How to use common symbols on multiple computers using pcb

2008-10-07 Thread Steven Michalske
All of my boards are in version control. so they all are really tied together well. i just check out a revision of that repository that has everything where it was back then and it just works. it might be cool to put geda and gschem in the mix at that level too, so that the tools used

Re: gEDA-user: pnp symbol questions

2008-10-07 Thread Stefan Salewski
Am Dienstag, den 07.10.2008, 16:08 -0400 schrieb Rob Butts: > Does antone know where I would find the symbol file for the pnp-3.sym >symbol in the basic devices library? This IS a symbol file (for gschem). Are you locking for the corresponding Footprint (pcb element)? I think there is no speci

Re: gEDA-user: pnp symbol questions

2008-10-07 Thread Rob Butts
Does antone know where I would find the symbol file for the pnp-3.sym symbol in the basic devices library? On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Stefan Salewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am Montag, den 06.10.2008, 16:57 -0400 schrieb Rob Butts: > I'm using the pnp-3.sym symbol f

gEDA-user: Dirty workaraound. Was: gschem: How to connect two nets from different sheet

2008-10-07 Thread Wojciech Zabolotny
I've found a "quick & dirty" workaround. I attach to such "pure" nets the testpoints with refdes set to RMV? (? is then replaced with a number). It assures proper generation of the netlist. Then I filter the network with the command: $cat generated.net | sed -e s/RMV[0-9]*-1// > filtered.net It r

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: How to connect two nets from different sheet

2008-10-07 Thread John Doty
On Oct 6, 2008, at 1:18 AM, Wojciech Zabolotny wrote: >> Do you really need multiple netnames for the same net? >> >> I did it this way, see >> >> http://www.ssalewski.de/Controller.pdf >> >> My Connector has pin names like MOSI. >> >> I use a io.sym symbol with attribute net=uC_MOSI:1 and conne

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Question

2008-10-07 Thread Richard Rasker
Op dinsdag 07-10-2008 om 13:22 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef DJ Delorie: > > Hold the mouse pointer over a component and press the F ("Find") key. > > I just tried that, and it doesn't work for me. Indeed, you're right -- this only works with nets (traces), no with components. My apologies. Rich

Re: gEDA-user: pcb, howto get plain rats lines instead of circles

2008-10-07 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Stefan, FWIW, I do not understand these circles myself either, but I do notice that if you connect them on the "GND" layer they seem to connect, and that these circles do not connect on "solder" or "component" layers. Maybe these circles "know" that an intermediate layer and via is required ?

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Question

2008-10-07 Thread DJ Delorie
> Hold the mouse pointer over a component and press the F ("Find") key. I just tried that, and it doesn't work for me. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: pcb, mm rounding issue

2008-10-07 Thread Stefan Salewski
Am Dienstag, den 07.10.2008, 11:19 +0400 schrieb Ineiev: > Won't it miss DRC errors? I'd prefer false alarms. > Smart rounding should work. Multiplying entered Clearance my something like 0.999 or subtraction of one internal unit (0.01 mil) should really make no problem, but prevent entering of

Re: gEDA-user: pcb, howto get plain rats lines instead of circles

2008-10-07 Thread DJ Delorie
> I'd be interested to see this test-case too. I'm sure I've hit similar > problems. I've reproduced Stefan's problem, with his board, with the latest pcb. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinf

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Question

2008-10-07 Thread Richard Rasker
Op maandag 06-10-2008 om 15:52 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef Rob Butts: > Can you select a component in pcb and highlight all components > connected to it? Hold the mouse pointer over a component and press the F ("Find") key. Press Shift+F to undo the highlight. Best regards, Richard Rasker

Re: gEDA-user: pcb, howto get plain rats lines instead of circles

2008-10-07 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 18:34 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: > Am Montag, den 06.10.2008, 10:55 -0700 schrieb Ben Jackson: > > > > Is it possible you optimized the ratlist while they were over a polygon > > and then moved them? The ratlist never reevaluates due to dragging a part. > > For normal rat

gEDA-user: PCB Question

2008-10-07 Thread Rob Butts
Can you select a component in pcb and highlight all components connected to it? Thanks ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: pcb, howto get plain rats lines instead of circles

2008-10-07 Thread Stefan Salewski
Am Montag, den 06.10.2008, 10:55 -0700 schrieb Ben Jackson: > > Is it possible you optimized the ratlist while they were over a polygon > and then moved them? The ratlist never reevaluates due to dragging a part. > For normal rats this just means less optimal lines running around, but if > you ha

Re: gEDA-user: pcb, mm rounding issue

2008-10-07 Thread Ineiev
Hi, Stefan; On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Stefan Salewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have 0.5 mm grid size, 0.25 mm line width and 0.25 mm "Minimum copper > spacing" in Preferences/Design Rule Checking. > > It was clear for me that this can cause problems -- indeed it does. > Sometimes it i

Re: gEDA-user: pnp symbol questions

2008-10-07 Thread Stefan Salewski
Am Montag, den 06.10.2008, 16:57 -0400 schrieb Rob Butts: > I'm using the pnp-3.sym symbol from the Basic devices library in >gschem. The symbol is drawn in pcb with a "G" "D" and "S at each pin npn transistors really should not have "G" "D" and "S", this is for MOSFET. It can be necessary

gEDA-user: pnp symbol questions

2008-10-07 Thread Rob Butts
I'm using the pnp-3.sym symbol from the Basic devices library in gschem. The symbol is drawn in pcb with a "G" "D" and "S at each pin eventhough the footprint I'm using doesn't have those abbreviations. I listed the footprint file is below: Element["" "" "" "TO92_EBC" 173228 66929

Re: gEDA-user: How to use common symbols on multiple computers using pcb

2008-10-07 Thread David Kuehling
> "Steven" == Steven Michalske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > i put mine into source control, so that i can go back in time and work > on old files easily enough > when schematics reference a symbol you used years ago and you have > updated it, you may need the older one for the schematic.

Re: gEDA-user: pcb, howto get plain rats lines instead of circles

2008-10-07 Thread Ben Jackson
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 07:05:47PM +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: > I have seen these circles indicating a connection to a plane in DJ's > tutorial for the first time. Now I get these myself. I do not understand > it really, and I do not want it, because there in no plane. Is it possible you optimi

Re: gEDA-user: pcb, mm rounding issue

2008-10-07 Thread DJ Delorie
Could you measure everything in mils and see what aspect of it is off? It looks like 0.30mm rounds down to 11.81 mils, but 0.15mm rounds up to 5.91 mils, we'd need to think about how we consider rounding at each stage in order for it to always come out right.

Re: gEDA-user: pcb, howto get plain rats lines instead of circles

2008-10-07 Thread Stefan Salewski
Am Montag, den 06.10.2008, 19:05 +0200 schrieb Stefan Salewski: >howto get plain rats lines instead of circles I think it is a bug. On left and right side of FPGA/Planes all works as expected, on top and below not. Maybe an error in y coordinate (vertically). I have deleted all planes -- now I

Re: gEDA-user: pcb, mm rounding issue

2008-10-07 Thread David Kuehling
> "Stefan" == Stefan Salewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have 0.5 mm grid size, 0.25 mm line width and 0.25 mm "Minimum > copper spacing" in Preferences/Design Rule Checking. > It was clear for me that this can cause problems -- indeed it does. > Sometimes it is not possible to draw copp