Intermediate representations used by GCC for C and C++ programs.

2021-04-08 Thread Vishnu Reddy via Gcc
Hello, This is Vishnu. I'm a computer science student studying in India. We are trying to build a compiler that uses machine learning to automatically segregate code for the respective architecture i.e. CPU and the GPU. We were looking up about all the stages of the intermediate representations u

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread Richard Kenner via Gcc
> Having one guy at the top from whom all power flows. > > Power does not "flow" from RMS. Since you have used a political analogy: > I think it is more akin to a constitutional monarchy. I think it's like the Queen of England. As a British person I used to know said: "The Queen of England

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread John Darrington
On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 07:56:14AM -0400, Richard Kenner wrote: > Having one guy at the top from whom all power flows. > > Power does not "flow" from RMS. Since you have used a political analogy: > I think it is more akin to a constitutional monarchy. I think i

GCC 10.3.1 Status Report (2021-04-08)

2021-04-08 Thread Richard Biener
Status == GCC 10.3.0 tarballs have been generated and uploaded and the GCC 10 branch is again open for regression and documentation fixes. Quality Data Priority # Change from last report --- --- P1 P2

GCC 10.3 Released

2021-04-08 Thread Richard Biener
The GNU Compiler Collection version 10.3 has been released. GCC 10.3 is a bug-fix release from the GCC 10 branch containing important fixes for regressions and serious bugs in GCC 10.2 with more than 178 bugs fixed since the previous release. This release is available from the FTP servers listed

Re: Default debug format for AVR

2021-04-08 Thread David Edelsohn via Gcc
On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 2:03 AM Richard Biener wrote: > > On April 8, 2021 1:17:53 AM GMT+02:00, David Edelsohn > wrote: > >On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 6:34 AM Richard Biener via Gcc > >wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:56 PM Simon Marchi via Gcc > > wrote: > >> > > >> > On 2021-04-05 3:36 p

Re: Default debug format for AVR

2021-04-08 Thread Richard Biener via Gcc
On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 8:03 AM Richard Biener wrote: > > On April 8, 2021 1:17:53 AM GMT+02:00, David Edelsohn > wrote: > >On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 6:34 AM Richard Biener via Gcc > >wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:56 PM Simon Marchi via Gcc > > wrote: > >> > > >> > On 2021-04-05 3:36 p

Re: Default debug format for AVR

2021-04-08 Thread Simon Marchi via Gcc
On 2021-04-08 9:11 a.m., David Edelsohn wrote: >>> AIX continues to use and support STABS, although it is transitioning >>> to DWARF. If this is intended as a general statement about removal of >>> STABS support in GCC, >> >> Yes, it is. >> >> Richard. > > Richard, > > It is inappropriate to uni

Re: Default debug format for AVR

2021-04-08 Thread Jeff Law via Gcc
On 4/8/2021 8:06 AM, Simon Marchi via Gcc wrote: On 2021-04-08 9:11 a.m., David Edelsohn wrote: AIX continues to use and support STABS, although it is transitioning to DWARF. If this is intended as a general statement about removal of STABS support in GCC, Yes, it is. Richard. Richard, It

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread David Malcolm via Gcc
On Thu, 2021-04-08 at 08:45 +0200, John Darrington wrote: > On Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 06:34:12PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > > > What you're describing sounds like a dictatorship to me. > > > > I cannot see how you reach that conclusion. > > Having

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread David Brown
On 07/04/2021 19:17, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc wrote: > On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 15:04, David Malcolm wrote: >> For myself, I'm interested in copyleft low-level tools being used to >> build a Free Software operating system, but the "GNU" name may be >> permanently tarnished for me; I have no wish to be

Re: Default debug format for AVR

2021-04-08 Thread David Edelsohn via Gcc
On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 10:41 AM Jeff Law wrote: > > On 4/8/2021 8:06 AM, Simon Marchi via Gcc wrote: > > On 2021-04-08 9:11 a.m., David Edelsohn wrote: > AIX continues to use and support STABS, although it is transitioning > to DWARF. If this is intended as a general statement about rem

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 at 3:00 AM > From: "David Brown" > To: "Jonathan Wakely" , "David Malcolm" > > Cc: "GCC Development" , "Mark Wielaard" > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On 07/04/2021 19:17, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 15:04, David Malc

Re: Default debug format for AVR

2021-04-08 Thread David Edelsohn via Gcc
On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 12:09 PM David Edelsohn wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 10:41 AM Jeff Law wrote: > > > > On 4/8/2021 8:06 AM, Simon Marchi via Gcc wrote: > > > On 2021-04-08 9:11 a.m., David Edelsohn wrote: > > AIX continues to use and support STABS, although it is transitioning > >

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread Giacomo Tesio
No, David, On April 8, 2021 3:00:57 PM UTC, David Brown wrote: > (And yes, I mean FOSS here, not just free software.) you are not talking about Free Software, but Open Source. FOSS, as a term, has been very successful to spread confusion. > his attitudes and behaviour are not acceptable by

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread John Darrington
On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 10:54:25AM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: I think it's important to distinguish between the figurative and literal here. No one is literally calling for anyone's head. Nobody has explicitly done so. However in the last 2 or 3 years there has been a

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread Thomas Rodgers
On 2021-04-08 10:22, Giacomo Tesio wrote: No, David, On April 8, 2021 3:00:57 PM UTC, David Brown wrote: (And yes, I mean FOSS here, not just free software.) you are not talking about Free Software, but Open Source. FOSS, as a term, has been very successful to spread confusion. his at

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread David Brown
On 08/04/2021 18:43, Christopher Dimech wrote: > >> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 at 3:00 AM >> From: "David Brown" >> To: "Jonathan Wakely" , "David Malcolm" >> >> Cc: "GCC Development" , "Mark Wielaard" >> Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF >> >> From a practical viewpoint, I am conce

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 at 6:21 AM > From: "John Darrington" > To: "David Malcolm" > Cc: g...@gnu.org, "Alfred M. Szmidt" , "Mark Wielaard" > > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 10:54:25AM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > I think it's important to

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread Gabriel Ravier via Gcc
On 4/8/21 6:43 PM, Christopher Dimech via Gcc wrote: Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 at 3:00 AM From: "David Brown" To: "Jonathan Wakely" , "David Malcolm" Cc: "GCC Development" , "Mark Wielaard" Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF On 07/04/2021 19:17, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc wrote: On W

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi David, On Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 10:04:21AM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > On Wed, 2021-04-07 at 00:22 +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > I admit it isn't looking very good and their last announcement is > > certainly odd: https://status.fsf.org/notice/3833062 > > > > But apparently the board is sti

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread David Brown
On 08/04/2021 19:22, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > No, David, > > On April 8, 2021 3:00:57 PM UTC, David Brown wrote: > >> (And yes, I mean FOSS here, not just free software.) > > you are not talking about Free Software, but Open Source. > > FOSS, as a term, has been very successful to spread co

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 at 7:48 AM > From: "Mark Wielaard" > To: "David Malcolm" > Cc: "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > Hi David, > > On Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 10:04:21AM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > On Wed, 2021-04-07 at 00:22 +0200, Mark Wielaard wrot

gcc-8-20210408 is now available

2021-04-08 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-8-20210408 is now available on https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/8-20210408/ and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details. This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 8 git branch with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread David Malcolm via Gcc
On Thu, 2021-04-08 at 20:21 +0200, John Darrington wrote: > On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 10:54:25AM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: [...] > Some of us don't want RMS in a leadership position in a project > we're > associated with (be it the FSF or GNU, and thus, GCC). > > RMS was the first

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt via Gcc
These discussions are slightly off topic for gcc@, I'd suggest they are moved to gnu-misc-discuss@ or some other more suitable list. To me GNU is people wanting to create a software system that respects users freedom according to the GNU Social Contract: https://wiki.gnu.tools/gnu:social-

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-08 Thread John Darrington
On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 09:35:23PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > RMS was the first person to be involved in GNU and GCC.  Others > became > involved later (under his leadership).  Their contribution was and > continues to be welcome.  They are also free to stop contributin