On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 2:03 AM Richard Biener <richard.guent...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On April 8, 2021 1:17:53 AM GMT+02:00, David Edelsohn <dje....@gmail.com> > wrote: > >On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 6:34 AM Richard Biener via Gcc <gcc@gcc.gnu.org> > >wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:56 PM Simon Marchi via Gcc > ><gcc@gcc.gnu.org> wrote: > >> > > >> > On 2021-04-05 3:36 p.m., Jim Wilson wrote:> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at > >6:24 PM Simon Marchi via Gcc <gcc@gcc.gnu.org <mailto:gcc@gcc.gnu.org>> > >wrote: > >> > > > >> > > The default debug format (when using only -g) for the AVR > >target is > >> > > stabs. Is there a reason for it not being DWARF, and would > >it be > >> > > possible to maybe consider possibly thinking about making it > >default to > >> > > DWARF? I am asking because the support for stabs in GDB is > >pretty much > >> > > untested and bit-rotting, so I think it would be more useful > >for > >> > > everyone to use DWARF. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > I tried to deprecate the stabs support a little over 4 years ago. > >> > > > >https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2017-December/489296.html > ><https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2017-December/489296.html> > >> > > There was a suggestion to change the error to a warning, but my > >startup company job kept me so busy I never had a chance to follow up > >on this. > >> > > > >> > > I would like to see the stabs support deprecated and the later > >removed from gcc. No new features have been added in a long time, and > >it is only being maintained in the sense that when it fails it is fixed > >to ignore source code constructs that it doesn't support. The longer > >it survives in this state, the less useful it becomes. > >> > > > >> > > Jim > >> > > >> > You have 100% my suppose on this. The longer stabs survives > >(especially > >> > as the default for an arch), the longer some people who don't know > >the > >> > intricacies of debug formats could use it without knowing, and that > >> > does them a disservice. > >> > >> Patches to kill STABS (and related/derived formats) are pre-approved > >for stage1. > > > >AIX continues to use and support STABS, although it is transitioning > >to DWARF. If this is intended as a general statement about removal of > >STABS support in GCC, > > Yes, it is. > > Richard.
Richard, It is inappropriate to unilaterally make this decision without discussion with all affected ports and maintainers, without warning, and without deprecation. I request that you rescind this decision. It is somewhat ironic to act as a dictator when we are having a discussion about dictatorial behavior in GCC leadership. Thanks, David
