Re: [patch,committed] Make Fortran maintainers "Non-Autopoiesis Maintainers"

2007-06-15 Thread Diego Novillo
On 6/15/07 3:31 PM, Tobias Schlüter wrote: > follow-up, and I'm fine with that. OTOH I do object (with a smiley) to > being labeled something that -- even though I can understand its meaning > from the ancient greek I studied -- I haven't the slightest idea how to > pronounce (sorry, "autopoiesis

Re: [patch,committed] Make Fortran maintainers "Non-Autopoiesis Maintainers"

2007-06-15 Thread Tobias Schlüter
Brooks Moses wrote: I'm not entirely sure that I agree with formalizing this for the Fortran maintainers in bulk, at least without discussion. My understanding (and it's entirely possible that I've missed something) was that this wasn't so much a formal rule as a general custom -- and, being a

Re: [patch,committed] Make Fortran maintainers "Non-Autopoiesis Maintainers"

2007-06-15 Thread Brooks Moses
Kenneth Zadeck wrote: I wish to applogize to the Fortran maintainers if I have sturred up a hornet's nest. I had been told that the Fortran maintainers followed the rule, as a convention among themselves, that individuals did not approve their own non trivial patches. When the three of us becam

Re: [patch,committed] Make Fortran maintainers "Non-Autopoiesis Maintainers"

2007-06-15 Thread Kenneth Zadeck
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 10:28:58PM -0700, Brooks Moses wrote: > > At 09:40 PM 6/14/2007, Steve Kargl wrote: > > >On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 08:48:22PM -0700, Brooks Moses wrote: > > >> I have no objection to this as a custom for GFortran, certainly -- I > > >> think it's a very good idea, and as a c

Re: [patch,committed] Make Fortran maintainers "Non-Autopoiesis Maintainers"

2007-06-14 Thread FX Coudert
Mostly what I want is some discussion about what we expect this to mean as a formal rule, and how strictly we're expecting to interpret it. For values of "we" meaning both the GFortran maintainers, and the wider GCC maintainer community. I agree with your intrepretation of this rule exactl

Re: [patch,committed] Make Fortran maintainers "Non-Autopoiesis Maintainers"

2007-06-14 Thread Steve Kargl
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 10:28:58PM -0700, Brooks Moses wrote: > At 09:40 PM 6/14/2007, Steve Kargl wrote: > >On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 08:48:22PM -0700, Brooks Moses wrote: > >> I have no objection to this as a custom for GFortran, certainly -- I > >> think it's a very good idea, and as a custom I ve

Re: [patch,committed] Make Fortran maintainers "Non-Autopoiesis Maintainers"

2007-06-14 Thread Brooks Moses
At 09:40 PM 6/14/2007, Steve Kargl wrote: On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 08:48:22PM -0700, Brooks Moses wrote: > I have no objection to this as a custom for GFortran, certainly -- I > think it's a very good idea, and as a custom I very much support it. > However, there have historically been reasonable

Re: [patch,committed] Make Fortran maintainers "Non-Autopoiesis Maintainers"

2007-06-14 Thread Steve Kargl
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 08:48:22PM -0700, Brooks Moses wrote: > > I have no objection to this as a custom for GFortran, certainly -- I > think it's a very good idea, and as a custom I very much support it. > However, there have historically been reasonable exceptions to it. In > particular, I'

Re: [patch,committed] Make Fortran maintainers "Non-Autopoiesis Maintainers"

2007-06-14 Thread Brooks Moses
(Because this concerns policy rather than code, I've cc'ed it to the main gcc list rather than the patches list.) FX Coudert wrote: I noticed in MAINTAINERS that there is a new category of "Non- Autopoiesis Maintainers" (I certainly missed the original announcement), for maintainers who canno