Re: GCC Mission Statement

ion. I therefore call for the Steering Committee to reconsider the decision and, at minimum, discuss it openly and transparently both on this mailing list (seeking for consensus) and the FSF (especially given its strong role in the previous mission statement). I think the SC is accountable to the us

Re: GCC Mission Statement

> Quite a few projects under the GNU project[1] have dissociated themselves from the FSF, so "as defined by the FSF" perhaps doesn't apply as consistently as it did before. That doesn't really answer any of my questions, though.

Mission Statement

> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 9:07 AM > From: "Aaron Gyes via Gcc" > To: "GCC Administrator via Gcc" > Subject: Re: Mission Statement > > > In this state of making something right, and making > > something wrong, there is no way for inclusi

Re: Mission Statement

> In this state of making something right, and making > something wrong, there is no way for inclusiveness. Are you familiar with the tolerance paradox? Aaron

Mission Statement

> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 3:49 AM > From: "Aaron Gyes via Gcc" > To: "GCC Administrator via Gcc" > Subject: Re: Mission Statement > > On Jun 9, 2021, at 8:30 AM, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > > > Besides inspiring a sceptic attit

Re: Mission Statement

On Jun 9, 2021, at 8:30 AM, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > Besides inspiring a sceptic attitude, Cicero made the language of > the civilized world. Yes > This has nothing to do with any complaints > of mistreatment, but mostly about belief systems that have taken > over many people's lives. Tha

GCC Mission Statement

> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 3:26 AM > From: "Giacomo Tesio" > To: "Richard Biener" > Cc: "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" , "Valentino Giudice" > > Subject: Re: GCC Mission Statement > > Sure Richard, I know. > > On June 9, 2021

Re: GCC Mission Statement

Sure Richard, I know. On June 9, 2021 2:32:22 PM UTC, Richard Biener wrote: > > You are free to create "DCO-free" branches for the GCC 11 series > (and older), reverting any DCO "incumbered" backports that reach > the official GCC branches for those series. I could. Like all other people aff

Re: GCC Mission Statement

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 4:22 PM Giacomo Tesio wrote: > > Hi Gabriel, > > On June 9, 2021 12:41:09 PM UTC, Gabriel Ravier > wrote: > > > > I do consider that a lack of transparency is pretty bad, and that > > discussions on subjects like this should be done in public, but I > > wouldn't say it's ju

Re: GCC Mission Statement

Hi Gabriel, On June 9, 2021 12:41:09 PM UTC, Gabriel Ravier wrote: > > I do consider that a lack of transparency is pretty bad, and that > discussions on subjects like this should be done in public, but I > wouldn't say it's just as bad as the potential risk that a fork would > incur. I reall

Re: Mission Statement

On Jun 9, 2021, at 6:48 AM, Christopher Dimech via Gcc mailto:gcc@gcc.gnu.org>> wrote > All this could became meaningless in ten years time because major > changes have resulted from division. If we go on dividing the > world using a knife rather than stitching it together, everything > will be le

Mission Statement

> To: "Valentino Giudice" , gcc@gcc.gnu.org > Subject: Re: GCC Mission Statement > > On 6/9/21 10:13 AM, Valentino Giudice via Gcc wrote: > > Hi. > > > > The Mission Statement of the GCC project recently changed without any > > announcement. > > Well there

Re: GCC Mission Statement

On 6/9/21 12:11 PM, Giacomo Tesio wrote: Hi Gabriel, On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 11:44:10 +0200 Gabriel Ravier via Gcc wrote: Speaking on the "change it recklessly" issue, I would personally say that SC has indeed arguably done this [...] some people threatened to pull away from GCC entirely if it remai

Re: GCC Mission Statement

Hi Gabriel, On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 11:44:10 +0200 Gabriel Ravier via Gcc wrote: > Speaking on the "change it recklessly" issue, I would personally say > that SC has indeed arguably done this [...] > some people threatened to pull away from GCC entirely if it remained > tied to the FSF. I personally h

Re: GCC Mission Statement

On 6/9/21 7:09 AM, Valentino Giudice via Gcc wrote: If the Steering Committee updates the mission statement, it may appear that the mission statement follows the decisions of the steering committee (in place of the contrary). In that case, what would be the purpose of a mission statement? In

Re: GCC Mission Statement

Le 09/06/2021 à 07:09, Valentino Giudice via Gcc a écrit : > If the Steering Committee updates the mission statement, it may appear > that the mission statement follows the decisions of the steering > committee (in place of the contrary). In that case, what would be the > purpose

Re: GCC Mission Statement

On 6/9/21 10:39 AM, Valentino Giudice wrote: I was aware of that announcement, but it doesn't mention the mission statement at all. It appears that the decision in question was, at the time, in contrast with the mission statement (rather than guided by it). If the Steering Committee update

Re: GCC Mission Statement

Thank you. > Well there was an announcement; the changes in the mission statement reflect > the new reality introduced by that announcement: > > https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-June/236182.html > > Siddhesh I was aware of that announcement, but it doesn't mention t

Re: GCC Mission Statement

On 6/9/21 10:13 AM, Valentino Giudice via Gcc wrote: Hi. The Mission Statement of the GCC project recently changed without any announcement. Well there was an announcement; the changes in the mission statement reflect the new reality introduced by that announcement: https://gcc.gnu.org

GCC Mission Statement

Hi. The Mission Statement of the GCC project recently changed without any announcement. I am not a contributor to GCC, merely a user. However, I'd like to understand more, especially about the transparency of the project. The GCC Steering Committee is supposed to follow the mission stateme

Re: The GCC Mission Statement says nothing about conforming to international standards!?

o I simply want to suggest to the proper people (who hopefully are reading this ;) that perhaps the mission statement should include something about the GCC project efforts to encompass programming language standards and then go beyond them whenever necessary in order to make the compiler even m

The GCC Mission Statement says nothing about conforming to international standards!?

est to the proper people (who hopefully are reading this ;) that perhaps the mission statement should include something about the GCC project efforts to encompass programming language standards and then go beyond them whenever necessary in order to make the compiler even more useful. -John

Re: The GCC Mission Statement says nothing about conforming to international standards!?

the standard. So putting conforming to the standards in the mission statement is not only unnecessary for me, it is probably a bad idea.

Re: The GCC Mission Statement says nothing about conforming to international standards!?

On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 01:42:06AM -0700, icrashedtheinternet wrote: > I just read the GCC Mission Statement and I see nothing there about > conforming to international standards for programming languages. Why > does the GCC Mission Statement not include conforming to > internationa

Re: The GCC Mission Statement says nothing about conforming to international standards!?

icrashedtheinternet wrote: I just read the GCC Mission Statement and I see nothing there about conforming to international standards for programming languages. Why does the GCC Mission Statement not include conforming to internationally accepted standards? Its very counterproductive not to use

The GCC Mission Statement says nothing about conforming to international standards!?

I just read the GCC Mission Statement and I see nothing there about conforming to international standards for programming languages. Why does the GCC Mission Statement not include conforming to internationally accepted standards? Its very counterproductive not to use standards. -John Burak