Re: Errors on your web page

2008-11-26 Thread Robert Dewar
Steve Kargl wrote: Not if you don't include the standard deviation and/or variance. With only 16 samples, having 2 rather large outlier points will skew the mean. Seems a bit of special pleading to me. Actually outliers are quite indicative. Often you don't care much if there is 5-10% differen

Re: Errors on your web page

2008-11-26 Thread Steve Kargl
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:47:07AM -0500, Robert Dewar wrote: > Steve Kargl wrote: > > >With regard to the top 10% performance, Absoft is simply comparing > >the overall mean performance numbers from the Polyhedron Benchmark. > >gfortran will never look good by that metric because there are at > >

Re: Errors on your web page

2008-11-26 Thread Tobias Burnus
Robert Dewar wrote: >> With regard to the top 10% performance, Absoft is simply comparing >> the overall mean performance numbers from the Polyhedron Benchmark. >> gfortran will never look good by that metric because there are at >> least 2 programs that would benefit from in-lining non-contained >

Re: Errors on your web page

2008-11-26 Thread Robert Dewar
Steve Kargl wrote: With regard to the top 10% performance, Absoft is simply comparing the overall mean performance numbers from the Polyhedron Benchmark. gfortran will never look good by that metric because there are at least 2 programs that would benefit from in-lining non-contained subprograms

Re: Errors on your web page

2008-11-26 Thread Steve Kargl
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 01:55:01PM +0100, Mikael Morin wrote: > Steve Kargl wrote: > > Dear Absoft, > > > > Please fix the errors on your web page: > > > > http://www.absoft.com/Absoft_Windows_Compiler.htm > > > Do you really think they will change the

Re: Errors on your web page

2008-11-26 Thread Arjen Markus
Paul Richard Thomas wrote: They even give the impression that an open source plotting package is specific to their compiler. Incidentally, I am so wedded to DISLIN, for which the gfotran version is free, that I have never tried to build plplot; has any body tried it? Yes, I have. I help ma

Re: Errors on your web page

2008-11-26 Thread Paul Richard Thomas
Mikael and Steve, > Do you really think they will change their webpage to one that > explicitly states that their compiler has a competitor with comparable > features, which is at least as fast, supports more platforms and is > available for free? > I would be very surprised if they do. > I think

Re: Errors on your web page

2008-11-26 Thread Mikael Morin
Steve Kargl wrote: > Dear Absoft, > > Please fix the errors on your web page: > > http://www.absoft.com/Absoft_Windows_Compiler.htm > > The comparison chart is not only misleading, it is a down > right lie! The last column is labeled "GNU g77 gfortran".

Errors on your web page

2008-11-24 Thread Steve Kargl
Dear Absoft, Please fix the errors on your web page: http://www.absoft.com/Absoft_Windows_Compiler.htm The comparison chart is not only misleading, it is a down right lie! The last column is labeled "GNU g77 gfortran". g77 and gfortran are completely different compilers! gfortran is