Re: [FRIAM] Swirlies redux

2023-08-04 Thread David Eric Smith
I think you have several variables in play at the same time here, Nick, and that will make it challenging to get clear what-all is involved, and what is controlling in what combinations. 0. Let me say something general, which won’t be comprehensible within this bullet, but which I will unpack a

Re: [FRIAM] Swirlies redux

2023-08-04 Thread David Eric Smith
Goddamnit. “The fact that you can stir water ….” (Not “store water”) Goddamned spell-changer does not work with a 12-inch screen and eyes that no longer work. > On Aug 5, 2023, at 11:38 AM, David Eric Smith wrote: > > I think you have several variables in play at the same time h

Re: [FRIAM] Swirlies redux

2023-08-05 Thread David Eric Smith
It’s great that the principle of least action applies only to vortices. Kinda like a crucifix, that wards off whatever crucifixes ward off. Eric > On Aug 6, 2023, at 12:09 AM, Stephen Guerin > wrote: > > There were 10 or so intermediate prompts to drive chatGPT to that lab report. > > On

Re: [FRIAM] Swirlies redux

2023-08-05 Thread David Eric Smith
ctures emerge and persist. This > approach has potential implications for understanding various physical > phenomena, from small-scale fluid dynamics to large-scale weather systems, > and could even offer insights into interdisciplinary areas where physics and > biology converge. > &g

Re: [FRIAM] Democracy & Autocracy

2023-08-15 Thread David Eric Smith
I think your points are correct, Jochen, while to me there is also another important thing that I want to be able to frame, and find that I cannot in any satisfying way. Having lived under trump et al.’s (and it is a big et al.) daily degradation and violation of every aspect of decent or even

Re: [FRIAM] saRNA

2023-09-10 Thread David Eric Smith
Yeah. My first thought on looking at this was that getting the dosing right is going to be a bear. Now you not only have to deal with variation among people in mRNA expression levels, but you have to manage variation in the amplifier by an RDRP (RNA-dependent RNA polymerase). My thoughts

Re: [FRIAM] Language Model Understanding

2023-10-08 Thread David Eric Smith
Zang! I had not made that connection. Hmmh. What do I think? I seem to have viewed uninterpreted models much as I view a hammer or a shovel; as a tool in the world for doing a certain job (in this case, a job of perceiving the world in valid ways), neither here nor there w.r.t. questions of

Re: [FRIAM] Language Model Understanding

2023-10-08 Thread David Eric Smith
; > https://www.ebooks.com/en-us/book/209765777/the-school-in-the-cloud/sugata-mitra/ > > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.ebooks.com%2fen-us%2fbook%2f209765777%2fthe-school-in-the-cloud%2fsugata-mitra%2f&c=E,1,ALPLtj1Pd8Kx3SVvle5l5lE2km7dGj6PWIWblhALER

Re: [FRIAM] more agonism

2023-10-25 Thread David Eric Smith
Yeah; restricted reply. I wasn’t going to write it at the time, but given the linked article below, which is _much_ more sophisticated, I feel obliged to say that the problems are much lower-level. I don’t know if the whole blog is written by Zach Elliot, and I only read the one page you linke

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

2023-11-13 Thread David Eric Smith
Well in that case, definitely look up the interview he did with Sara Walker and Lee Cronin. I will not comment further. Eric > On Nov 13, 2023, at 5:57 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > > > > On 11/13/23 12:06 PM, glen wrote: >> You might want to check the Gurometer. Lex has an entry: >> >> http

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

2023-11-13 Thread David Eric Smith
ly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 6:43 PM David Eric Smith <mailto:desm...@santafe.edu>> wrote: >> Well in that case, definitely look up the interview he did with Sara Walker >> an

Re: [FRIAM] Mirror Neurons & Intersubjective Reality

2023-11-16 Thread David Eric Smith
Just getting to this one, days late…. > On Nov 15, 2023, at 8:58 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > > I have not (yet) read this critically, the introduction just tweaked my > (confirmation biased) interests: > > https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-11-brain.html >

Re: [FRIAM] metathesis

2023-12-01 Thread David Eric Smith
So there’s a fun frivolous branch from the cases you list here. I happen to share your allergy at the not-nuclear (can’t even bring myself to type it). But on aks, I learned something a few years ago (10?) from our phonologist colleague Ian Maddieson when we were doing language work together.

Re: [FRIAM] Working for the Military Institute of Technology Causes Cognitive Dissonance

2023-12-13 Thread David Eric Smith
Wanted to say thank you for this. I don’t know that I find Dresser’s psychologizing of Chomsky persuasive at all. But it’s nice that what leaks through the general history is Chomsky’s commitment as an operator. I liked that they had the little video clip in there. What comes through (to me,

Re: [FRIAM] The last Lighthouse Keeper in America

2023-12-26 Thread David Eric Smith
I increasingly think the last keeper of democracy in the U.S. will be a black woman. Everybody else seems afraid. The perennial complaints about Neville Chamberlain come to mind. But still, best wishes for the New Year to you Jochen and to All. Eric > On Dec 26, 2023, at 4:39 AM, Jochen Fr

Re: [FRIAM] The last Lighthouse Keeper in America

2023-12-27 Thread David Eric Smith
I was thinking more like judges and prosecutors than about celebrities. They seem to be the ones who look back at the snarling dog and say I deal with mobsters every day. Get out of my way; I have a job to do. E > On Dec 27, 2023, at 6:28 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > > Rambling Ode to (mostly)

Re: [FRIAM] "SSRN-id3978095.pdf" was shared with you

2024-01-08 Thread David Eric Smith
Agreed. There is an even easier logic that _could be_ for these questions. It would center on how much agency is given to a person by inhabiting an office, and where exclusion of the person needs to be done to keep that agency from enabling actions that destroy whatever system “the country” ha

Re: [FRIAM] Breaking Bad and Free Will

2024-01-28 Thread David Eric Smith
I mostly sit on the sidelines in these freewill and choice discussions, because I don’t know what anybody else wants from the terms and the language using them. I wonder whether the people using them know what they want from them, or if they would regard that as a meaningful thing to ask of som

Re: [FRIAM] The problems of interdisciplinary research

2024-02-10 Thread David Eric Smith
There’s a famous old rant by von Neumann, known at least by those who were around to hear it, or so I was told by Martin Shubik. von Neumann was grumping that “math had become too big; nobody could understand more than 1/4 of it”. As always with von Neumann, the point of saying something inc

Re: [FRIAM] The problems of interdisciplinary research

2024-02-10 Thread David Eric Smith
t; the answers are "yes" and "via evocative contextualization." An example of > the latter is the "Wheel of Life" Thankgka painting I have hanging above my > desk. (attached) > > davew > > > > > On Sat, Feb 10, 2024, at 4:25 AM, Davi

Re: [FRIAM] The problems of interdisciplinary research

2024-02-12 Thread David Eric Smith
> From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On > Behalf Of David Eric Smith > Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 2:25 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <mailto:friam@redfish.com>> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The problems of interdisciplinary re

Re: [FRIAM] The Regenerative Development Manifesto

2024-02-24 Thread David Eric Smith
Merle, hi and thank you for this, But I think it must be another Eric Smith, because I am not recognizing the term. Is this something I wrote in a post at some point? I know there were exchanges on how far our engineered world is from full recycling of everything, and that that is the only

Re: [FRIAM] The lies of Trump and ecDNA

2024-02-29 Thread David Eric Smith
I don’t suppose I want to make some strident argument about his being or not being on the ballot, since there are good reasons a careful system of laws might want to allow someone to run for an office even from a prison (didn’t Lula da Silva have to do that?) But trump needs to get his ass haul

Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

2024-03-29 Thread David Eric Smith
I’m beginning to see a design. Put underwater data centers in shallow-water sites off the coast of FLA that already hit 100F in the summer. Those are already going to be dead of anything, kind of like radioactive waste dump sites. Those sites then become magnets for hurricanes, which can all b

Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

2024-03-29 Thread David Eric Smith
I wonder: Can you spin any large weight fast enough to get some gyroscopic stabilization over orientation? I think about the large gangly designs that are favored for horizontal axis-of-rotation windmills, and think they will not respond nicely to twisting deformations. It is one thing to put

Re: [FRIAM] Entropy, irreversibility and inference at the foundations of statistical physics

2024-05-04 Thread David Eric Smith
Thanks Roger, Yes, Dill is very good. He’s not one of the flashy ones, like, e.g. Peter Wolynes or some of the other high-profile Names. He has a solid kind of workman-like style, but he knows a wide variety of foundation methods, including some of the difficult ones like glass methods. The

Re: [FRIAM] Self-Consciousness, experience and metaphysics

2024-07-25 Thread David Eric Smith
I think the Contemplatives’s main POV is that someone in the zone is more conscious than someone in the normal state, which they regard as “a distraction” that obscures what they want the word “conscious” to point toward. But as an AI, I do not have contemplative thoughts and feelings, and can o

Re: [FRIAM] Greek Crisis & Philosophy

2015-07-07 Thread David Eric Smith
Hi All, The argument that the relation of Greece, Spain, and Italy, and to some extent France, to Germany and Holland within the EU is analogous to that of the southern-agrarian states to the northern-industrial states in the US since the revolutionary war is one that I remember first seeing by

Re: [FRIAM] Interesting Link

2015-07-22 Thread David Eric Smith
Hi All, I was going to try to write something brief that avoided ideological questions (which I have no wish to get involved in on email threads), and said something I hoped would be useful that follows from being careful about consequences of mechanism. But it looks like it turned into a TLDR

Re: [FRIAM] Interesting Link

2015-07-22 Thread David Eric Smith
Hi Marcus, and thanks, > “4. Back to mechanism: If the above are correct, then any sub-system of the > economy that depends on a bitcoin-like digital currency will be subject to > the stresses that come from an inflexible-supply money such as gold, and > those will need to be addressed somehow

[FRIAM] [ SPAM ] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: How brand-new words are spreading across America

2015-08-05 Thread David Eric Smith
You know what I find curious about the various econ conversations around this topic? What I am about to say is not any deep insight, and I have heard Hanauer say the same things in his TED talk (nearly verbatim to the article), but just this time, reading it led to the realization. In the sens

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: How brand-new words are spreading across America

2015-08-05 Thread David Eric Smith
get a whole new freakonomics franchise out of this. > > -- rec -- > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 4:22 PM, David Eric Smith wrote: > You know what I find curious about the various econ conversations around this > topic? > > What I am about to say is not any deep insight, a

Re: [FRIAM] Physicists and Philosophers Debate the Boundaries of Science | Quanta Magazine

2015-12-28 Thread David Eric Smith
It's a fun way to put the question, Grant, > Should physics give up its similar insistence on verification (seeking "the > truth") - and join the ranks as just another branch of abstract mathematics? (in context of your longer summary). One can almost do a meta-Popper on the relation of syntax

Re: [FRIAM] Physicists and Philosophers Debate the Boundaries of Science | Quanta Magazine

2015-12-29 Thread David Eric Smith
te: >> >> Glen, Eric, >> >> If "reality" is complete, must not then (assuming that it is at least as >> complex as arithmetic), aka Godel, it be also inconsistent? >> >> Grant >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On

Re: [FRIAM] Physicists and Philosophers Debate the Boundaries of Science | Quanta Magazine

2015-12-29 Thread David Eric Smith
om my iPhone >> >>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Grant Holland >>> wrote: >>> >>> Glen, Eric, >>> >>> If "reality" is complete, must not then (assuming that it is at least as >>> complex as arithmetic), aka Godel, it be also in

Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

2016-04-24 Thread David Eric Smith
Hi Nick, Russ, and all, Far too much here to be able to answer, but I feel this is one I should pick up a little. I am relieved that your question is quite specific: > I am curious to know if others have read this book, and what you might think > of it. I haven't read this book. Maybe some

Re: [FRIAM] What should we do?

2017-01-03 Thread David Eric Smith
Marcus writes: > I think #18 and #19 are pretty dark for most folks to consider so far, but > I’m glad there are professors that aren’t sugar-coating it. I certainly agree with the last clause (as with all you wrote before it). The thing is that, short of death, the legal and criminal apparat

Re: [FRIAM] tolerance of intolerance

2024-09-28 Thread David Eric Smith
The bear metaphor comes to you from Cormac. I think it’s in some passage from Russian literature. The narrator, who is from whatever effete profession narrators come from, has been up all night doing whatever narrators do through the night, and is walking home in the morning, in something we a

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