Re: [FRIAM] nice quote

2024-10-08 Thread steve smith
What sound does a spherical cow make? Moo mOo? On Tue, Oct 8, 2024, 5:51 PM glen wrote: I agree. But it depends fundamentally on what one means by all those words: "model", "wrong", "useful" - 3 unknowns, assuming "some" and "all" are understood as quantifiers and "are" is

Re: [FRIAM] nice quote

2024-10-08 Thread Jon Zingale
Since we are picking on aphorisms, I wish to add criticism to "all models are wrong, some are useful". To a great extent, the qualities of the thing being modelled matters. For instance, natural numbers do have crisp, compact properties and can be modelled by sets. To claim that models are never c

Re: [FRIAM] nice quote

2024-10-08 Thread Stephen Guerin
On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 3:06 PM Jon Zingale wrote: > Since we are picking on aphorisms, I wish to add criticism to "all models > are wrong, some are useful". > > To a great extent, the qualities of the thing being modelled matters. For > instance, natural numbers do have crisp, compact properties

Re: [FRIAM] nice quote

2024-10-08 Thread glen
I agree. But it depends fundamentally on what one means by all those words: "model", "wrong", "useful" - 3 unknowns, assuming "some" and "all" are understood as quantifiers and "are" is understood as membership/identity. The problem with the EO Wilson aphorism was that it was too short. This one

Re: [FRIAM] nice quote

2024-10-08 Thread Stephen Guerin
Moo On Tue, Oct 8, 2024, 5:51 PM glen wrote: > I agree. But it depends fundamentally on what one means by all those > words: "model", "wrong", "useful" - 3 unknowns, assuming "some" and "all" > are understood as quantifiers and "are" is understood as > membership/identity. The problem with the