Hi, David,
Sorry to have included you in my grumpiness.
With your example of Dusty, you engage at precisely the baby-steps level
that I seek. I think it helps to start with an evocative particular.
First, could we dispense with the Cartesian metaphor of "expression", the
pimple-pinching model
Glen,
This is a test to illustrate somethiing about Gmail to Nick.
On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 4:37 PM glen wrote:
> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0003347215003085
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> On July 9, 2024 2:04:29 PM PDT, Prof David West
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>> Maybe I should not be replying, as I do beli
I missed most of this (and related) threads but am surprised at where this
seems to be going. I always associated consciousness with subjective
experience and not necessarily with self awareness. The "hard problem of
consciousness" is qualia, not self-awareness. No? An AI agent cannot
understand la
My car turns on its windshield wipers when it is wet. Among the trillions of
tokens of a LLM training would include texts on equation of state. These are
things that can be related.
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Nick -
I'm glad you acknowledged (in another branch of this thread?) the
"grumpiness" aspect of your initiation/participation in this thread.
Your analogy around thought/feeling "expression" and that of pimple
popping is in fact very apt if a bit graphic. I do think many of us
want this app
Steve,
The scale of your response alone suggests that it cannot be baby steps.
I guess I am proposing a method here, one inn we work outward from an
evocative experience to explore our understandings of contraversial
concepts, and that we do it in relatively short bursts.
*Dusty comes to cuddle
Please excuse the late response, I was distracted a bit. What is the reason
that one or more languages are essential for meta awareness? I guess we all
agree that all animals know their environment and are aware of it. This is
necessary to move around in it, to find food and to avoid predators.
Nick -
(of course) I've larded up my usual style of response below (maybe only
for my own need to "express" the buildup of mental-pus that comes with
everything I hear here and elsewhere) but to save you (and anyone else
who cares) the burden of parsing a few dozen lines of back-and-forth, I
On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 6:01 PM Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Lol. That’s fine, except for the suspicious promotion Ecological Dual
> Fields!
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When Dan hears thunder and cuddles with me, I do whisper in his ear ;-)
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