I was just trying to get past the apparent equivalence of language to written,
literary, use of words and grammar - citing song, cave art, and (should have
but forgot) dance as means of communication sufficient to assume consciousness.
My library is still in boxes in the garage, so references wi
While I find all the ancillary considerations raised on the original
thread extremely interesting, I would like to reopen the discussion of
Conscious as a Mystery and ask that those that join it stay close to the
question of what consciousness is and how we know it when we see it. Baby
Steps.
W
You think you are taking baby steps from a clean (un-prejudicial) start.
I think you are massively prejudicing the frame in a way that may not go
anywhere. (Or maybe it does; I can’t say. It just seems like the one
everybody has been adopting forever, re-asserted one more time.)
You treat the
Maybe I should not be replying, as I do believe my dogs (and your cat if you
have one) are conscious.
I have not experienced a Vulcan Mind-Meld with either of my dogs, so I cannot
say with certainty they are conscious—I must infer it from observations:
1- interactions with other dogs would seem
Nick, That is not a valid syllogism.
All X have Y
x has Y
Therefore x is an X
Is that a correct formalization of what you said?
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On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, 1:54 PM Nicholas Thompson
wrote:
> While I find all the
Yeah; wish it were possible to say something interesting.
The aspect of, or within, the field of experience, that “consciousness” and
other related words are somehow “about", should be general among all of us who
are made of about the same stuff. (So, the vertebrates, the mammals, the
social m
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Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM
On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, 5:35 PM Santafe wrote:
> Yeah; wish it were possible to say something interesting.
>
> The aspect of, or within, the field of experience, that “consciousness”
> and other related words a
