Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

2021-05-06 Thread Pieter Steenekamp
I have a little book On Anarchism by Noam Chomsky. Chomsky is IMO a very smart person and it's maybe worthwhile to pay attention to his ideas? Although I don't want to reject his ideas, my mind is open, I'm not convinced it will work out as intended. The problem is he offers anarchism as an idea

Re: [FRIAM] In the coldness of space...

2021-05-06 Thread Marcus Daniels
< b) a Big question is whether a quantum computer algorithm will be found to solve problems like the travelling salesman problem efficiently. To keep this post simple I'm not going into computational complexity theory, I'll just give the conclusion: If a quantum computer algorithm is developed

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

2021-05-06 Thread uǝlƃ ↙↙↙
This larger issue of problematic sources for good ideas came up again the other night when someone chastised me for owning a Ford, because, you know, he donated to Hitler's campaign. It was the opposite of my argument that attacking a brand isn't attacking the person. In his case, he was attacki

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

2021-05-06 Thread Prof David West
Russ raised the question about alternatives to capitalism. A quick perusal of a good Economic Anthropology textbook can provide numerous examples. Many of which worked at a scale far greater than 150 people. Example: an Aboriginal economic system that incorporated multiple tribes in an area from

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

2021-05-06 Thread David Eric Smith
Hi Pieter, Not that it matters (to anything), but No, zero support for Chomsky from me. He is the archetype of a bully and a demagogue. It was his MO in linguistics his entire career, a field that was susceptible to that sort of thing, and to which he has done great harm. It’s a shame, too, b

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

2021-05-06 Thread Russ Abbott
Thanks, David. I have no background in Economic Anthropology and am interested in hearing about societies that function effectively without something like money. My intuition (perhaps wrong) is that the only ways to make that work over extended periods are rigid societal structures (enforced, perh

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

2021-05-06 Thread uǝlƃ ↙↙↙
Not hearing back is not the equivalent of being ignored. I got as far as the 1st few paragraphs, then checking Pavlovic's credentials. I decided I'd read it. Then completely forgot about it. We have to check our American tendencies. "I want it all! I want it NOW!" 8^D I'll respond after I've rea

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

2021-05-06 Thread Frank Wimberly
This does not seem interesting to me. The vaccines have been demonstrated to be effective and safe to very large degrees based on many millions of inoculations. Why should I care about some suspect studies with small n. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

2021-05-06 Thread thompnickson2
Yes, of course, and, thank you. I wait with 'bated breath. n Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ??? Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 11:49 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-La

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

2021-05-06 Thread uǝlƃ ↙↙↙
For the Frank's among us, it's important to note that this paper is unrelated to hydroxychlorquine and its applicability to COVID-19. That's a troll baiting the reader into some rhetoric about postmodernism and the relationship between [in]formal methods. But regardless of the trip down the rab

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

2021-05-06 Thread Pieter Steenekamp
I'm not particularly fond of Donald Trump, but the elephant in the room is that Hydroxychloroquine became well-known after Trump advocated it. At the time I followed and researched it a bit and I came to the conclusion that both the mainstream media and the medical industry were against Hydroxychl

Re: [FRIAM] Natures_Queer_Performativity_the_authori.pdf

2021-05-06 Thread uǝlƃ ↙↙↙
No, that's not a principle of Wokeism. It may be a reactionary misunderstanding of what's being said. (More likely it's an absurdist strawman, intended to help you *avoid* hearing what's being said.) But if you listen closer, you might actually hear what's being said. This article does a pretty

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

2021-05-06 Thread thompnickson2
You Nailed it, Glen Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ??? Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 1:09 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc For the Frank's among u

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

2021-05-06 Thread thompnickson2
Thanks, Pieter, Interesting. As somebody who has followed the research, is it true that the matter simply stands with the Hah-vud studies retracted, and nothing more said? That doesn’t seem right. Nick Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com

Re: [FRIAM] Natures_Queer_Performativity_the_authori.pdf

2021-05-06 Thread thompnickson2
Glen, I was trying to start small . think you are flat out wrong, by the way: I think the principle that “You do not get to say who I am” is deeply entrenched in the principles that 538 listed. I am grateful for the list. Let's work with it a bit. See below. Nick Thompson thompn

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

2021-05-06 Thread Pieter Steenekamp
* is it true that the matter simply stands with the Hah-vud studies retracted, and nothing more said? That doesn’t seem right.* I just don't know. I speculated that the topic was just way too politicized to get to the bottom of it without spending serious time and effort on it and I chose not to

Re: [FRIAM] Natures_Queer_Performativity_the_authori.pdf

2021-05-06 Thread uǝlƃ ↙↙↙
Heh, I'm not sure we're having the same discussion, here. Those 10 bullets aren't things *I* believe. Nor are they things Bacon (the 538 author) necessarily believes. They're simply the tenets as he sees them. And I tend to agree that those are the tenets. What you seem to have done in your "la

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

2021-05-06 Thread Gary Schiltz
Here is one reason to be interested: much of the world is still months, maybe years, away from getting access to vaccines. My adopted country of Ecuador as a case in point. On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 12:52 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > This does not seem interesting to me. The vaccines have been demon

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

2021-05-06 Thread thompnickson2
Thanks, Peiter, At 83, we are fully vaccinated, and although we have changed our behavior very little, we breath easier. You have that to look forward to. Nic Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https:

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

2021-05-06 Thread Pieter Steenekamp
I know I run the risk of responses like "it's Pollyanna, oh sorry I mean Pieter, again", but I'll take the risk and share the link with the speculation about technological progress with mRNA vaccines that will end pandemics like covid. https://reason.com/video/2021/05/06/why-covid-19-may-be-the-las

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

2021-05-06 Thread Frank Wimberly
My friends in Mexico say the same. As my grandmother ( and all the other grandmas) used to say, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Why do we have excesses while poorer countries have shortages. I know that there are limits to the capacity to manufacture the vaccines but is a more eq

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

2021-05-06 Thread David Eric Smith
Pieter, there is a good conversation to have here, but these bastards who seem committed to doing _everything_ in bad faith irritate me to the point where I spend time writing FRIAM posts instead of doing anything that will _ever_ benefit anyone or accomplish anything. Yes, the mRNA platform

Re: [FRIAM] FW: (no subject)

2021-05-06 Thread David Eric Smith
The more, that the cart is a system-level outcome of compatibility of interfaces among what are just more desserts, all the way down, though of several different kinds…. > On May 6, 2021, at 5:29 AM, > wrote: > > Oh, and …. this problem … > If that intuition is valid, then the only things S