Re: [FRIAM] New information on COVID-19

2020-04-24 Thread Barry MacKichan
Our microbiologist daughter in New Zealand told us to get a pulse oximeter. She told us on March 31. I ordered from Amazon on April 1. Amazon says it shipped on April 16. We haven’t gotten it yet. We have Amazon Prime, but the order is being fulfilled by another company. In this case, I think A

Re: [FRIAM] New information on COVID-19

2020-04-24 Thread Steven A Smith
I guess the lead might be long enough,  but probably needs a different calibration. > Is that a rectal thermometer? > > Cody Smith > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:16 PM Steven A Smith > wrote: > > sew one into your mask with an LED readout so everyone can see > yo

Re: [FRIAM] New information on COVID-19

2020-04-24 Thread Roger Critchlow
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 8:32 PM Roger Critchlow wrote: > > I wonder if any of those cell phone pulsimeters could be upgraded to > oximeters with some calibration? > There are a bunch of cell phone pulse oximeter apps that use the cell phone flash and camera, but I don't get the feeling that they

Re: [FRIAM] New information on COVID-19y bb

2020-04-24 Thread thompnickson2
Remind me, someone. Why are we all buying oximeters? I thought the burden of the Times article was that IF you are sick from a “cold”, don’t wait to test your O2 levels until you EXPERIENCE difficulty breathing, because by then it might be too late. Do you all have colds? I suppose, given t

Re: [FRIAM] New information on COVID-19y bb

2020-04-24 Thread Edward Angel
The point is that if you check your blood oxygen level you might catch the problem before it is so bad that you have to be put on a ventilator and probably won’t survive. Ed ___ Ed Angel Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab) Professo

Re: [FRIAM] New information on COVID-19y bb

2020-04-24 Thread Joe Spinden
Excellent idea.  After reading the article Merle linked, I ordered one myself. I also found that rumor has it that an oximeter will be built into the next Apple watch and the next Watch OS.  There is also a possibility that the software will work with existing Apple watches. I just made a su

Re: [FRIAM] New information on COVID-19y bb

2020-04-24 Thread Roger Critchlow
Or, the point is that you could survey for blood oxygen levels as a proxy for the wet testing that isn't available. Given severe lung damage from even mild cases, it might also proxy for the immune testing that still isn't available either. -- rec -- On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 12:08 PM Edward Angel

Re: [FRIAM] New information on COVID-19y bb

2020-04-24 Thread Merle Lefkoff
Thanks, Ed. You are exactly right. A friend of my daughter's in Boulder who is in her late forties but has some health challenges, felt ill back toward the middle of March. She called her doctor who then asked her to check her oxygen level. It was way below 90 and he then treated her for pneumo

Re: [FRIAM] Shakira and Plato

2020-04-24 Thread Frank Wimberly
I took that course in the summer between my sophomore and junior years at Berkeley. Philosophy 20A the pre-Socratics. I still have some of the textbooks. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:35 PM Jochen Fromm wrote:

Re: [FRIAM] Shakira and Plato

2020-04-24 Thread Angel Edward
Shakira was smart enough to take belly dancing and singing first. I think she also studied CS. Missed your chance Frank. Ed __ Ed Angel Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab) Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico 1017 S

Re: [FRIAM] Shakira and Plato

2020-04-24 Thread Frank Wimberly
What? To date Shakira? After her halftime performance at the Superbowl I almost feel like I did. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 12:51 PM Angel Edward wrote: > Shakira was smart enough to take belly dancing and sing

Re: [FRIAM] Shakira and Plato

2020-04-24 Thread Marcus Daniels
Incidentally, I have been on e-mail threads like this where someone on the list (who may have been imported on the fly) shames the correspondents, or even punishes them, for not being inclusive.That said, I’ve seen interviews with Shakira and it became clear to me she is a reductionist when

Re: [FRIAM] Shakira and Plato

2020-04-24 Thread Prof David West
have no idea why - but this conversation made me think of Kareem Abdul Jabbar and three of his books: The two about Mycroft and Sherlock (with Anna Waterhouse) and his Writings on the Wall. Enjoyed all of them thoroughly. davew On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > I took

Re: [FRIAM] Shakira and Plato

2020-04-24 Thread Frank Wimberly
"Reductionist" is a good way to put it. I was just talking in the Friam meeting about part-object relationships. On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 1:00 PM Marcus Daniels wrote: > Incidentally, I have been on e-mail threads like this where someone on the > list (who may have been imported on the fly) sham

Re: [FRIAM] Shakira and Plato

2020-04-24 Thread Edward Angel
No, for you to have a career as sexy singer. Ed ___ Ed Angel Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab) Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico 1017 Sierra Pinon Santa Fe, NM 87501 505-984-0136 (home)

Re: [FRIAM] Shakira and Plato

2020-04-24 Thread Frank Wimberly
Funny via preposterousness, On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 1:17 PM Edward Angel wrote: > No, for you to have a career as sexy singer. > > Ed > ___ > > Ed Angel > > Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory > (ARTS Lab) > Professor Emeritus of Computer Scien

[FRIAM] Fwd: Freedom: Sarte v Camus

2020-04-24 Thread Steven A Smith
Interesting contrast between two P(p)hilosophers (and friends) on the topic of Freedom... a little dated but maybe good background on contemplating our current paradox of "what means Freedom?" ‘Absolute freedom is the right of the strongest to dominate,’ Camus wrote, while ‘absolute justi

[FRIAM] novel uses of CRISPR

2020-04-24 Thread Marcus Daniels
https://mammoth.bio/diagnostics/ And since the baseline for safety is now slamming Pine Sol, I think the sky is the limit for CRISPR-based treatments. "And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injectio

[FRIAM] Fwd: Recent CMU Research for COVID-19 Response

2020-04-24 Thread George Duncan
Important contributions George Duncan Emeritus Professor of Statistics, Carnegie Mellon University georgeduncanart.com See posts on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram Land: (505) 983-6895 Mobile: (505) 469-4671 My art theme: Dynamic exposition of the tension between matrix order and luminous chaos.