The point is that if you check your blood oxygen level you might catch the 
problem before it is so bad that you have to be put on a ventilator and 
probably won’t survive.

Ed
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> On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:46 AM, <thompnicks...@gmail.com> 
> <thompnicks...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Remind me, someone.  Why are we all buying oximeters?  I thought the burden 
> of the Times article was that IF you are sick from a “cold”, don’t wait to 
> test your O2 levels until you EXPERIENCE difficulty breathing, because by 
> then it might be too late.  Do you all have colds?   I suppose, given that it 
> takes Amazon six weeks to get one, you are wise to get a jump on it. 
>  
> Nick 
>  
> Nicholas Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
> Clark University
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> From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On 
> Behalf Of Roger Critchlow
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 9:40 AM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com 
> <mailto:friam@redfish.com>>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] New information on COVID-19
>  
>  
>  
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 8:32 PM Roger Critchlow <r...@elf.org 
> <mailto:r...@elf.org>> wrote:
>>  
>> I wonder if any of those cell phone pulsimeters could be upgraded to 
>> oximeters with some calibration?
>  
> There are a bunch of cell phone pulse oximeter apps that use the cell phone 
> flash and camera, but I don't get the feeling that they've been calibrated 
> much.  It's a lot easier to write the code, call it entertainment, and reap 
> the ad revenues that to actually determine what the measurement means in the 
> general population.  Some apps have even added some of the other pulse 
> oximeter functions, perfusion, respiratory pleth,   Then, again, 
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2921597 
> <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2921597> says "Smartphone-based pulse 
> oximetry is not inferior to standard pulse oximetry in pediatric patients 
> without hypoxia. Reliability was superior for PBA compared with CBA, with 
> more precise agreement for the PBA compared with the CBA. Future studies 
> should test pulse oximetry apps in a hypoxic pediatric population."  That was 
> published in 2018.
>  
> There's an interesting series of press releases from UIUC claiming that 
> measuring someone's gait (with cellphone accelerometers) over a 6 minute walk 
> is enough to get a good estimate of O_2 saturation, because people who aren't 
> getting enough O_2 apparently walk funny.
>  
> Here's an android app on github, https://github.com/YahyaOdeh/HealthWatcher 
> <https://github.com/YahyaOdeh/HealthWatcher>, with some more method 
> references, the https://github.com/topics/spo2 
> <https://github.com/topics/spo2> listing has a bunch of arduino projects, too.
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