Re: [FRIAM] query and observation

2019-09-12 Thread Frank Wimberly
Dave, The Friam list remains as you can see but is sort of a trickle. I posted a couple of items about the Cooper/Colbert interview and something I can't remember but they weren't up to the high intellectual standard which engages you, Glen, Marcus, Nick, et al. Glen did comment insightfully. Ni

[FRIAM] Gene name errors are widespread in the scientific literature | Genome Biology | Full Text

2019-09-12 Thread Tom Johnson
https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-016-1044-7 FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com a

Re: [FRIAM] query and observation

2019-09-12 Thread Nick Thompson
Frank, Dave, Well I AM tied up with relocation issues, so haven’t been paying close attention, but … I just did a search in my inbox and there is nothing from FRIAM from 24 August on. I have always understood that the Friam-Owner. is like the wine pourer at a classical “symposium”

Re: [FRIAM] query and observation

2019-09-12 Thread Gary Schiltz
FRIAM is such a strange beast. At times full of philosophical discourse that flies far above my head, other times full of irreverent inanities that defy categorization, and occasionally even with something to do with complexity. And then the periodic deafening silence that makes me realize just how

Re: [FRIAM] query and observation

2019-09-12 Thread Barry MacKichan
FYI: My sister-in-law did not get this message. (Just trying to help ) --Barry On 12 Sep 2019, at 11:45, Nick Thompson wrote: > Ps.  Let me know if you don’t get this message.  (};-\\) > > Nicholas S. Thompson FRIAM Applied Complexity

[FRIAM] quickening

2019-09-12 Thread Jon Zingale
With few apologize, I have not been contributing very much as of late. The last few months have offered new opportunities for work, meditations on new life, and a whole lot of commutative ring theory / algebraic geometry. Sometime soon, I hope to meet with my friend Ashley (an ex-Johnnie) whom it

Re: [FRIAM] quickening

2019-09-12 Thread Nick Thompson
Jon What on earth is a D and D campaign? Imagination runs wild. The first question to an evolutionist is, “what is a given pain for?” So, pain is a mechanism to get the organism to do or not to do something, including, in social species, to cry for help. Once you know what a pain

Re: [FRIAM] query and observation

2019-09-12 Thread Steven A Smith
Dave - I had noticed a slowdown a while back, but being on the road for 3 weeks myself, I haven't contributed or really noticed the grinding halt until now as you call it out.  By coincidence I had dinner and beers with Glen along the way, and I'm pretty sure he has brought Hoffman's work up here

Re: [FRIAM] query and observation

2019-09-12 Thread Steven A Smith
We love our "flocking" models but FRIAM is less of a 'birds-of-a-feather'  group than something much harder to similize.  It feels to me that some of our conversations are a bit flocky or schooly (rarely herdy) but others are more geophysical like flares or eruptions...  a good schoolyard "pileon"

Re: [FRIAM] query and observation

2019-09-12 Thread Frank Wimberly
Straw man: Nick: People don't think, they only behave. Frank: You reached that conclusion by thinking. Nick: You presume to have observed my reaching the conclusion. Frank: I am certain your mind works like mine. Nick: How could you know that? You are a Cartesian. Frank: And proud of i

Re: [FRIAM] query and observation

2019-09-12 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
The best answer to "so what?" comes in Hoffman's paper: Natural selection and veridical perceptions http://www.cogsci.uci.edu/~ddhoff/PerceptualEvolution.pdf from the abstract: > We find that veridical perceptions can be driven to extinction by > non-veridical strategies that are tuned to ut

Re: [FRIAM] query and observation

2019-09-12 Thread Nick Thompson
So, you are late meeting the train to Albuquerque. As you drive into the station, you see a train sitting at the platform, absolutely motionless. You rush up to the conductor and demand to know, “Is this train going to Albuquerque?” “No!” the Frank, conductor replies. As you can plainly see,

Re: [FRIAM] query and observation

2019-09-12 Thread Nick Thompson
Glen, In haste: "what is the validator of a veridical perception?" Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Beha

Re: [FRIAM] query and observation

2019-09-12 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
Again from the paper: > The *simple* strategy, which is a critical realist strategy, observes only > one resource per territory, say food. If the quantity of that resource is > above a threshold, it sees ‘‘green,’’ otherwise its sees ‘‘red.’’ If there is > only one green territory, the agent cho

Re: [FRIAM] query and observation

2019-09-12 Thread Steven A Smith
On 9/12/19 4:24 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > The best answer to "so what?" comes in Hoffman's paper: Glen - I may be missing your point badly, but your response lead me to flip my thinking inside out and ask myself just what I mean by "so what" and realized that *might* be the central point to Hoffman's

Re: [FRIAM] quickening

2019-09-12 Thread Steven A Smith
Jon - Congratulations on your fresh parentage...  the perfect (long) moment to consider many issues around the meaning of life, consciousness, etc. (as you are). Of note it is interesting what you juxtapose:   Playing D&D with someone who you are also (out of band from the game) discussing phenom

Re: [FRIAM] query and observation

2019-09-12 Thread glen∈ℂ
Heh, I doubt you're missing my point. And please don't mistake my defense/explanation of Hoffman as advocacy. I think it's interesting. But he relies too much, IMO, on idealized modeling. So, I don't think the interface idea is really all that important. But it is interesting. To me, though, t

Re: [FRIAM] Thx for the traffic

2019-09-12 Thread Elizabeth Cates
I have been working hard to finally take a vacation. Too much focus on how to regulate bitcoin and I am exhausted. Anyway, first stop St Petersburg! And when I finally got a moment to check on what was percolating, there was nothing. I was frankly alarmed at the lack of traffic. We need more caffe

Re: [FRIAM] Thx for the traffic

2019-09-12 Thread Marcus Daniels
One application distributed ledger systems have for currency is precisely as mechanism to bypass regulation. A common reason for the bypass is crime. Another reason is as an organizational tool against those in power who abuse it. It doesn’t take a lot of imagination these days to see that t