Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

Heh, while I appreciate the concrete example, it doesn't resolve my worry. Why? Because my steelmanning of Nick/Eric(C)/Peirce (NEP) requires *more* than the parallelism theorem (PT - that all parallel graphs can be simulated by sequential graphs). If we take NEP seriously, the PT requires us

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

Possibly of interest.. https://journals.aps.org/prx/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevX.8.031013 On 1/3/19, 9:36 AM, "∄ uǝʃƃ" wrote: Heh, while I appreciate the concrete example, it doesn't resolve my worry. Why? Because my steelmanning of Nick/Eric(C)/Peirce (NEP) requires *more* than the para

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

Great! Thanks. But which is which? Anarchy v. Fascism? n Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus D

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

Chess (David) is a systematic attack at one important target and Go (Nick) is about taking territory. One player seems to think that he can be instrumental (but there are far too many targets) and the other thinks he can be generally integrative. Some recent anarchists and fascists we see (As

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

Forget my incompetence in ε-machines for a minute. 8^) They say: > Take a glass shattering upon impact with the floor. In one temporal > direction, the future distribution of shards depends only on the glass's > current position, velocity,and orientation. In the opposite direction, we may > ne

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

Steve S and/or Prof West< Can either of you explain this to me in citizen speak? Nick? Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfi

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

Geez. And I thought it was the other way. Nick (attack); Dave (surround but never confront). Grant vs Stonewall Jackson. n Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- F

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

Tactics vs. strategy.. Are we watching behavior or inferring motives? On 1/3/19, 11:29 AM, "Nick Thompson" wrote: Geez. And I thought it was the other way. Nick (attack); Dave (surround but never confront). Grant vs Stonewall Jackson. n Nicholas S. Thompson Emer

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

Marcus, Motives ARE behavior. Just at a higher level of organization. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

Heh, there you go again, rejecting the heterarchy! >8^D I would claim motives are a higher order behavior, but NOT (solely) at a higher level of organization. I.e. motives consist of BOTH low level behaviors like eyeball saccades AND high level behaviors like how one feels about another person

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

Ok. Good. I like this. Stick with me here. Keeping your language as citizen-y as possible, please talk to me about "heterarchy". Being of great age, I learned the song, I'm my own GrandPa in my youth. I assume that’s an example of heterar

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

I just gave you an example. But it's weird because nobody ever responds to my mentions of eyeball saccade. You also didn't respond to my scalar multiplied by a matrix analogy (an analogy because I was talking about comprehensions, which matrices are not, technically). So, rather than give you

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

Glen says to Nick: > I have no idea why you used the word "duality". I am very afraid that Nick's use (is metaphorical and) can probably be traced back to having read/heard someone writing about "the wave/particle duality" or the like. I'm not sure what *you* mean by duality: the rest of your po

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

Rushing Glen to make an apt, so can't answer fully. Just meant by "duality" a division into two, an opposition, a polarity. I now see that it has a distinct mathematical meaning, which of course, I have no idea of. I thought the example of saccads was good. Wanted more, is all. Nick Nic

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

I mean it in a sense you know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duality_(mathematics) I suspect you'll take issue with the way I'm using the term. Everyone always takes issue with everything I say. 8^) But I'm not really relying on the term for my argument about the expressibility of hier- and het

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

Nick, Before the conversation forks towards duality, a minor comment about heterarchy in a human organizational context. Hunter-gatherer tribes were organized as heterarchies: egalitarian with no formal, persistent organization. Instead organization, including leadership, ranking, and roles wa

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

"There has been a growing interest in business management with regard organizational structures that can be rapidly reorganized in response to change and the demand for innovation. The term most often encountered in this regard is "wirearchy" — essentially a large dynamic network where connectio

[FRIAM] Pondering...shoes and sweats of all things

I am seriously curiuse how it is that Puma can make pretty good regular seekers...for a bit cheeper than Nike. And who ever created the sweat pant. Was genius! comfortable can look great. and doesn't blow up ones budget. FRIAM Applied Co

Re: [FRIAM] Pondering...shoes and sweats of all things

Is this an experiment to see if we can identify some philosophical topic latent in the topic of casual clothing? How cycles of fashion can be compressed using a memory-less optimized quantum time evolution? Trying to find something to be opinionated about here. Failing. From: Friam on be

Re: [FRIAM] Pondering...shoes and sweats of all things

Mind reader. On both. On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 5:13 PM Marcus Daniels wrote: > Is this an experiment to see if we can identify some philosophical topic > latent in the topic of casual clothing? How cycles of fashion can be > compressed using a memory-less optimized quantum time evolution? Tryi

Re: [FRIAM] Pondering...shoes and sweats of all things

Well you see it has to be a quantum state because if you observe it for to long it discopears. that is if it can be observed at all. And their's only a .1% chance that if you can nab onto something, without timywimy happening. On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 5:13 PM Marcus Daniels wrote: >

[FRIAM] Where tomorrow

.. is friam? -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabbl

Re: [FRIAM] Where tomorrow

I am assuming St John's coffee shop will be open. --- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Thu, Jan 3, 2019, 8:18 PM Owen De

Re: [FRIAM] Where tomorrow

Frank n all, I believe that is correct. I asked before vacation, and there was only one Friday it was closed. By the way, last week’s meeting at Saveur was very interesting and the word “complexity” actually was used during it. It was like old times. Nick Nicholas S. Thompso