Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-11 Thread Nick Thompson
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:48 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities All I know is that it sucks ass to do an

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-11 Thread Gillian Densmore
For example I HAVE TO have the option to see what if I can figure out why someones computer is speeking klingon and is on it's way to a Bird of Prey. Well right now my network is to unreliable to do that because it simple doesn't have enough umpf. So I call people and see what I can do. The force

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-11 Thread Gillian Densmore
All I know is that it sucks ass to do anything requiring internet here in NM. One one hand LOVE the Village feel On the other hand: When I need to get -Bug fixes for anything on my computer -Want to listen to some awsome music or basically do ANYTHING network related like having fun exploring VE

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
“The rest of us have to get our I-net service by dial up or cell tower. The connections to the Cell tower are metered, so that if you fall asleep at your computer and it decides to download an update, you could wake up from your nap with a 150 dollar phone bill. “ I worry that 5G will take is

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-07 Thread Gary Schiltz
*Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2016 1:53 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US > cities > > > > My personal belief/preference is that withholding adequate intern

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-07 Thread Nick Thompson
lexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities My personal belief/preference is that withholding adequate internet access is like withholding public transportation, education, health care or nutrition. Now _I_ had to make due with a 300 baud

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 12:56 PM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities Hi, Marcus, Wait. Hang on. I was actually trying to present arguments in a colorful way, not being personal

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-07 Thread glen
I doubt Marcus took your e-mail personally. I think he was making a standard point about obligation and advocacy. Your idea of dividing bandwidth in the same (or similar) ways things like roads or power might be divided is interesting, though. All of the precision you raise can be done. Ou

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-07 Thread Nick Thompson
ompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 11:39 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities Actually my inner ni

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities Marcus, I now realize that my Inner Luddite is actually quite a puritan. He says, “Are any of the activities you describe morally urgent”. I think

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-07 Thread Nick Thompson
Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities There are a variety of technologies, ranging from Ethernet-based frame buffer device drivers (Userful for Linux), to extended RDP protocols (RemoteFX for Windows). Google Chromecast or the NetFlix capabi

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-07 Thread Marcus Daniels
: Monday, March 07, 2016 9:51 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities Huh this zero client thing reminds me of a X11 stunt Skunkworks had. Basically a computer (Fred) could somehow talk to other computers

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-07 Thread Gillian Densmore
t; > *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Nick > Thompson > *Sent:* Sunday, March 06, 2016 2:23 PM > *To:* 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fi

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-06 Thread Marcus Daniels
naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 2:04 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group mailto:friam@redfish.com>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities “Do other

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-06 Thread Gillian Densmore
University > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com > ] *On Behalf Of *Edward Angel > *Sent:* Sunday, March 06, 2016 7:48 AM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com&g

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-06 Thread Nick Thompson
nk.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 2:04 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities “Do others hav

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-06 Thread Marcus Daniels
“Do others have very specific advantages that would flow from having 1-gig service in the City?” Zero client technology typically requires reliable 1 Gbit Ethernet. This is the scenario where all apps are hosted on the cloud and display is thrown to the user that has a super cheap device. Thi

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-06 Thread Nick Thompson
Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities I agree with Marcus’ comments. In addition, lack of a competitive broadband infrastructure contributes to the reasons it is so difficult to get companies to come to NM al

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-06 Thread Edward Angel
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 7:48 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <mailto:friam@redfish.com>> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities > > I have a difficult time believing that Ting will decide to come h

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-06 Thread Marcus Daniels
“My Inner Luddite assumes that the chief drivers of broadband-envy are gaming and movie downloads. He finds neither of these activities morally urgent.” Most companies make some effort to protect their information resources. One way they do this is with virtual private networks (VPNs). Work

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-06 Thread Nick Thompson
ompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Edward Angel Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 7:48 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities I have a difficult time believing tha

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-06 Thread Gillian Densmore
Hit the nail on the head there Ed! I think some good can come out of this conversation. Mostly saying. Oh Santa Fe has made a bunch of really crappy choices related to having fun, cool and CHEAP internet. I suspect ultimatly the fix will come from a combination of things. First mile seems to be

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-06 Thread Edward Angel
I have a difficult time believing that Ting will decide to come here. Some of the reasons: The pricing is very interesting. Right now I pay about $60/month for 80 mbps downloads and 5-6 mbps uploads. The service has been very reliable. So it sounds good to have the possibility of getting gigab

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-05 Thread Gillian Densmore
esigns/ > > > > *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Gillian > Densmore > *Sent:* Saturday, March 05, 2016 2:24 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-05 Thread Nick Thompson
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 2:24 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-05 Thread Gillian Densmore
Nick know if Ting is doing fiber optic? Also do you know if that about 1G pers a second is both direction? On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Nick Thompson wrote: > Dear Friammers, particularly those in Santa Fe, > > > > I have been rummaging around on the Ting Website trying to figure out how